Porsche in LMP1!? - Page 10

NaBUru38 · 17 Dec 2009, 20:48 (Ref:2601554)

Are you sure that the DTM is heading towards GTs? Because it's a Touring Car Masters, not a GT Masters, right?

Tim the Grey · 17 Dec 2009, 22:20 (Ref:2601617)

Just change it back to DRM!

cmk · 17 Dec 2009, 22:26 (Ref:2601621)

Right now the DTM cars are as much prototypes as touring cars, and closer in spirit to the Group 5 cars that participated in the heyday (pre-Group C) of the DRM.

They might as well move that way rather than going back to a touring car spec if they have a partner and moderately unfilled niche there, compared to all the S2000/successor competition they would face in the 'proper' touring car niche.

**FIRE** · 18 Dec 2009, 21:46 (Ref:2602135)

With DRM being currently used for Deutsche Rallyesport Meisterschaft I suggest they call it DSM (Deutsche Sportwagen Masters)

Mal · 22 Dec 2009, 07:56 (Ref:2603554)

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/246128/

Could the arrival of a Porsche LMP1 be sooner than we think? See this article most of which is not new but it also hints that Porsche and Audi could race against each over at Le Mans.

Dario911 · 22 Dec 2009, 10:17 (Ref:2603596)

Were not in the same group Audi and Bentley in 2003?
Well, I suppose it may happen again with Porsche return in Le Mans. Porsche is not so much under the rules of VAG as Bentley.
I suppose they'll come back in Le Mans with Penske Racing. This new was in the air since two years...
Porsche has achieved a lot of experience with its RS Spyder, and is ready to face Audi and Peugeot in P1.
No doubt Porsche is working on a competitive car for P1 class, at the same way of Spyder in P2.

porsche91722 · 22 Dec 2009, 11:13 (Ref:2603614)

With these comments being made, I don't think there could be any doubt that the much awaited return is on the cards. Just a case of when not if!

"Porsche boss Michael Macht told Autosport the company had "big plans for the future" and promised an announcement "that will surprise you" in the spring."
"Everyone in the Porsche family would be happy to go to Le Mans to challenge for victory again."
"Wolfgang Durheimer, Porsche board member in charge of motorsport, confirmed that there is no reason why Porsche and Audi couldn't race against each other at Le Mans"

Andy77 · 22 Dec 2009, 13:19 (Ref:2603652)

well, they will race against each other but at least one of both without works support then. A true surprise by now would be if Porsche goes and does it all alone without customer teams like Penske or Joest.

The Badger · 22 Dec 2009, 14:12 (Ref:2603670)

One thing , the new boss sounds that he likes his motorsports , a lot more than the last fella !!!

**joeb** · 22 Dec 2009, 14:52 (Ref:2603687)

I like the "that will surprise you" quote from that story. I'm guessing a hybrid or version, or possibly diesel to promote the Panamara!

Mal · 22 Dec 2009, 15:33 (Ref:2603704)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

I like the "that will surprise you" quote from that story. I'm guessing a hybrid or version, or possibly diesel to promote the Panamara!

I was hoping it will be that the plan is to race much sooner that we had thought!

LeMans.pt · 22 Dec 2009, 15:41 (Ref:2603712)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

I like the "that will surprise you" quote from that story. I'm guessing a hybrid or version, or possibly diesel to promote the Panamara!

I'll bet on an hybrid... seems to be the nest big thing on ACO regulations. Or... something new (Hydrogen?)
"Porsche boss Michael Macht told Autosport the company had "big plans for the future" and promised an announcement "that will surprise you" in the spring."

**joeb** · 22 Dec 2009, 15:42 (Ref:2603713)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal

I was hoping it will be that the plan is to race much sooner that we had thought!

or maybe it's a BIG surprise and they also worked out an engine deal with Peugeot!

Mal · 22 Dec 2009, 16:25 (Ref:2603734)

Maybe the R15 plus is a R15 plus a Porsche hybrid engine!!

gwyllion · 22 Dec 2009, 17:08 (Ref:2603756)

Taken from the Audi press release:

Quote:

Audi will contest the new Le Mans Intercontinental Cup in the 2010 season with two R15 TDI cars fielded by Audi Sport Team Joest. Three cars are planned for the 24-hour race at Le Mans on June 12/13. Audi Sport Team Joest plans also to contest the 1000-kilometer race at Spa-Francorchamps (Belgium), which Audi would like to use as a dress rehearsal for Le Mans, with three cars.

carsten66 · 22 Dec 2009, 17:22 (Ref:2603765)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal

Maybe the R15 plus is a R15 plus a Porsche hybrid engine!!

That wouldn't make any sense. Porsche is Porsche and Audi is Audi. I don't beleave Audi would sell cars under their brand with Porsche engines or the other way round...

HORNDAWG · 22 Dec 2009, 17:39 (Ref:2603773)

Quote:

Originally Posted by carsten66

That wouldn't make any sense. Porsche is Porsche and Audi is Audi. I don't beleave Audi would sell cars under their brand with Porsche engines or the other way round...

Hmm, then explain the likes of this!? Here

L.P.

Dead-Eye · 22 Dec 2009, 17:59 (Ref:2603784)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Hmm, then explain the likes of this!? Here

L.P.

That was still a Porsche with a Porsche engine though

HORNDAWG · 22 Dec 2009, 18:05 (Ref:2603789)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

That was still a Porsche with a Porsche engine though

But it does prove that they can have a symbiotic relationship.
In other words, never say never, although it does seem a far stretch in the present!

L.P.

carsten66 · 22 Dec 2009, 18:36 (Ref:2603804)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

But it does prove that they can have a symbiotic relationship.
In other words, never say never, although it does seem a far stretch in the present!

L.P.

Okay, that's a point... But why should Audi share their flag ship cars with Porsche? That would be like making a competing company a present of your glory sucess at times where all the manufactures are fighting for market shares.

carsten66 · 22 Dec 2009, 18:45 (Ref:2603807)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/246128/

Could the arrival of a Porsche LMP1 be sooner than we think? See this article most of which is not new but it also hints that Porsche and Audi could race against each over at Le Mans.

Maybe that explains why we will see no support of the RS Spyder next year (except for the Cytosport car)...

gwyllion · 22 Dec 2009, 20:47 (Ref:2603860)

The earliest Porsche will enter LMP1 is 2011. They are not going to build a car that is only legal for 1 year.

deggis · 23 Dec 2009, 04:40 (Ref:2604013)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

I like the "that will surprise you" quote from that story. I'm guessing a hybrid or version, or possibly diesel to promote the Panamara!

That I wouldn't like.

GT6 · 23 Dec 2009, 09:09 (Ref:2604074)

Quote:

Originally Posted by carsten66

Okay, that's a point... But why should Audi share their flag ship cars with Porsche? That would be like making a competing company a present of your glory sucess at times where all the manufactures are fighting for market shares.

And that has not happened before? you have a very short Le mans memory

Spyderman · 23 Dec 2009, 15:44 (Ref:2604252)

Wolfgang Durheimer, Porsche board member in charge of motorsport, confirmed that there is no reason why Porsche and Audi couldn't race against each other at Le Mans, despite them both being part of the VW Group now.

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