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Old 3 Apr 2022, 12:34 (Ref:4105227)   #2601
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Unfortunately it's a fact that a lot of fans still fail to understand... A driver only 'deserves' to be on the grid when they have the talent and can also raise the necessary funding. If Jade, Hamilton, Butel etc can raise the funding to get on the grid then they deserve to be there just as much as the front runners.
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Old 3 Apr 2022, 12:40 (Ref:4105228)   #2602
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Not exactly. In Turkington's case it was that he didn't want to be paying for the privilege of being on the grid rather than not having the means to do so.
True, but it amounts to the same thing. He wasn't given a seat on talent alone, but was required to fund the drive.
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Old 3 Apr 2022, 12:47 (Ref:4105229)   #2603
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Unfortunately it's a fact that a lot of fans still fail to understand... A driver only 'deserves' to be on the grid when they have the talent and can also raise the necessary funding. If Jade, Hamilton, Butel etc can raise the funding to get on the grid then they deserve to be there just as much as the front runners.
Exactly, it's the whole package.
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Old 3 Apr 2022, 13:07 (Ref:4105230)   #2604
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Exactly, it's the whole package.
And, exactly how Plato described the criteria for being supported by the KX Akademy in 2013:

"There's thousands of people in motorsport with no money, and if you've got no backing it doesn't matter how good you are, you're not going to succeed.

Not only do these guys have to be talented in the car but they have to be shrewd operators. You've got to be sharp, you've got to be a salesman.

If you haven't got any sponsors, you're not going to make it, and we don't want to back those people."
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Old 4 Apr 2022, 06:34 (Ref:4105274)   #2605
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Yes - if you consider that:

2 of the cars were running different engines in a different team. One of those 2 was being driven by a 3x champion, the other being driven by a driver in their second full season.
The 2 being run by the same team were being driven by someone in their fifth season, and someone in their eighth season.

Having gained a year of experience, 2022 is when improvements should be seen.
Engine doesn't make much difference here. The 2 Dynamics drivers finished in between the 2 BTC drivers.

But you missed the point there by a long way. Put in a front running car (some might say the best on the grid) and then only score 1 point shows that the driver leaves a lot to be desired.
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Old 4 Apr 2022, 14:28 (Ref:4105291)   #2606
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Engine doesn't make much difference here. The 2 Dynamics drivers finished in between the 2 BTC drivers.

But you missed the point there by a long way. Put in a front running car (some might say the best on the grid) and then only score 1 point shows that the driver leaves a lot to be desired.
Don’t discount that some drivers take longer to get to grips with new series etc. look at Matt Simpson for example, never had him down as a race winner after his first season. I expect Jade to move up the grid this year.
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Old 4 Apr 2022, 14:34 (Ref:4105295)   #2607
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Don’t discount that some drivers take longer to get to grips with new series etc. look at Matt Simpson for example, never had him down as a race winner after his first season. I expect Jade to move up the grid this year.
To be fair, that was in the year where they rolled a dice to select a winner.....
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Old 4 Apr 2022, 16:01 (Ref:4105311)   #2608
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They never roll a dice to select a winner, wins are always hard earned, although some have required luck and then there's those that use questionable tactics...
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Old 4 Apr 2022, 16:14 (Ref:4105317)   #2609
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I expect Jade to move up the grid this year.



LMAO , THX for the joke needed a good laugh
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Old 4 Apr 2022, 18:32 (Ref:4105325)   #2610
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BTCC testing at Croft this week. Will be interesting to see if Plato and Collard are back again. Will they swap cars!?
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Old 4 Apr 2022, 18:40 (Ref:4105327)   #2611
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LMAO , THX for the joke needed a good laugh
He never said how far up the grid she’s going to move
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Old 4 Apr 2022, 18:55 (Ref:4105329)   #2612
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BTCC testing at Croft this week. Will be interesting to see if Plato and Collard are back again. Will they swap cars!?
It's been a good few years since we've had announcements this late! Surely if Plato or Collard are testing at this stage they're pretty certain?

Or watch Speedworks announce Sam Smelt again...

If Proctor's out for Plato, might we see him return to PMR? Would hope he isn't desperate enough for the Cupra!
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Old 4 Apr 2022, 20:13 (Ref:4105335)   #2613
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BTC, Laser and Speedworks testing at Knockhill today.
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Old 4 Apr 2022, 20:48 (Ref:4105338)   #2614
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Ricky collard was testing the Speedworks Toyota at knockhill today
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My mind says it has to be a thing but announcement is being kept back for whatever commercial reason. They've not had anybody else in the car so it's Ricky or Ricky... obviously I've added 2+2 and arrived at 67.

Watch Lewis Hamilton now tell Merc to stick the crap car and switch to BTCC...
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Watch Lewis Hamilton now tell Merc to stick the crap car and switch to BTCC...
Team Hard?
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Team Hard?
Don’t Team Hard have Mercs? Makes sense
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Old 5 Apr 2022, 06:44 (Ref:4105367)   #2618
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My mind says it has to be a thing but announcement is being kept back for whatever commercial reason. They've not had anybody else in the car so it's Ricky or Ricky... obviously I've added 2+2 and arrived at 67.
As of 3 days ago, the Collards confirmed that a deal was not in place. Perhaps this is part of the continued effort to get a deal signed?
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As of 3 days ago, the Collards confirmed that a deal was not in place. Perhaps this is part of the continued effort to get a deal signed?
Bluffing. See a young Mr Rowbo for further details
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More likely it's the finance part of the deal that is not in place. I get the impression that it's 95% Collard's seat but just needs that last little bit of backing confirmed before either Collard or Speedworks are prepared to sign on the dotted line.
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it's 95% Collard's seat but just needs that last little bit of backing confirmed before either Collard or Speedworks are prepared to sign on the dotted line.
I mean, if you have the funds to test...
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Jason Plato driving through the Scottish Borders on Twitter. Must have been testing with BTC and is on his way to do more tomorrow?
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But announcement is being kept back for whatever commercial reason.
Nah, it's just the BTCC wanting to have enough news to talk about during the run-up to the first round, that's all.
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Looks like 15 cars for F4 media day.

Wikipedia says 17 for Ginetta GT4s.
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