VLN and Nurburgring 24 hours - Page 105

GT3_Fan · 27 May 2023, 02:09 (Ref:4158121)

They read my previous post. Yahhy ...j/k Full race here. Wow want something to have on to run all day 25 hour video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOyV6SSmI0I

TWRv12 · 17 Jun 2023, 09:55 (Ref:4164108)

NLS4 about to start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5FoPXLVvYk

entry
https://www.nuerburgring-langstrecke...enzlandrennen/

NaBUru38 · 23 Jun 2023, 14:18 (Ref:4165123)

The 2024 N24 was moved to June 1-2, to avoid the clash with the FIA WEC Spa round.

https://sportscar365.com/other-serie...wec-spa-clash/

GT3_Fan · 25 Jun 2023, 22:24 (Ref:4165458)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

The 2024 N24 was moved to June 1-2, to avoid the clash with the FIA WEC Spa round.

https://sportscar365.com/other-serie...wec-spa-clash/

Good, more daylight added to it now!

GT3_Fan · 25 Jun 2023, 22:26 (Ref:4165459)

N"ring 24 needs to evolve. Its time to get rid of all of the 3rd starting group classes. Let 40 GT3 cars race. Especially with interest from Chevy and Ford now. Also more Mercedes GT2, Porsche 992 Cup cars, Ferrari Challenge, Lambo Super Trofeo. That would work just fine.

Enduranceracer · 25 Jun 2023, 23:38 (Ref:4165463)

No need to get rid of anyone. The total number of entries has been down the past couple of years. The many multiple classes is part of the history of th race. They will have no problem taking on new GT3 entries.

Truckosaurus · 26 Jun 2023, 06:27 (Ref:4165485)

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Originally Posted by GT3_Fan

...Its time to get rid of all of the 3rd starting group classes. ....

It would be a better race without the GT3 cars :-)

Much closer laptimes between the GT4 cars and the one-make 'Cup' cars.

Badlands99 · 26 Jun 2023, 08:20 (Ref:4165503)

Let the all race ........ that is the appeal of N24

S griffin · 26 Jun 2023, 10:26 (Ref:4165528)

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Originally Posted by Badlands99

Let the all race ........ that is the appeal of N24

Exactly, the beauty of the race is the variety of different cars from different classes. Means even the ones at the back have something to fight for

GT3_Fan · 26 Jun 2023, 14:04 (Ref:4165547)

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Originally Posted by Truckosaurus

It would be a better race without the GT3 cars :-)

Much closer laptimes between the GT4 cars and the one-make 'Cup' cars.

Errr no. GT3 cars is what attracts the audiences mysef included. Yes I know there is the Spa 24, however SRO ruins that race with their blasted safety car procedures. N'Ring 24 is the honest genuine endurance race left.

NaBUru38 · 26 Jun 2023, 14:17 (Ref:4165552)

This year's race had over 30 GT3 entries, which is excellent.

I'd love to see more non-German cars, but I'm far from asking less classes.

GT3_Fan · 26 Jun 2023, 15:46 (Ref:4165560)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

This year's race had over 30 GT3 entries, which is excellent.

I'd love to see more non-German cars, but I'm far from asking less classes.

I am optimistic as I see Chevy and Ford having ambitions there

SnoodyMcFlude · 30 Jun 2023, 19:36 (Ref:4166003)

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Originally Posted by GT3_Fan

Errr no. GT3 cars is what attracts the audiences mysef included. Yes I know there is the Spa 24, however SRO ruins that race with their blasted safety car procedures. N'Ring 24 is the honest genuine endurance race left.

Most of the audience are there for the party.

Keep the slower classes, reduce the number of GT3s so you don't get so many of them driving dangerously.

v8supes · 1 Jul 2023, 17:16 (Ref:4166120)

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Originally Posted by GT3_Fan

Errr no. GT3 cars is what attracts the audiences mysef included. Yes I know there is the Spa 24, however SRO ruins that race with their blasted safety car procedures. N'Ring 24 is the honest genuine endurance race left.

Sadly for you SRO and ADAC are now running the 24 hours as part of the IGTC from 2024 onwards.

https://www.intercontinentalgtchalle...red-by-pirelli

It surprises me though because one of the big themes coming out of SPA is how manufacturers feel that GT3 is no longer sustainable due to inflation, the cost of the new cars etc. Now anyone that wants to compete in IGTC needs to include the ring permits and the additional events to gain those permits which increases costs.

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2023/...gt-racing.html

SnoodyMcFlude · 1 Jul 2023, 20:48 (Ref:4166181)

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Originally Posted by v8supes

It surprises me though because one of the big themes coming out of SPA is how manufacturers feel that GT3 is no longer sustainable due to inflation, the cost of the new cars etc.

The manufacturers say that, but so many of the championships are in a very strong place and, as DSC say, there's big order books for the new cars....so one questions how much validity there is in what manufacturers are saying.

v8supes · 1 Jul 2023, 23:28 (Ref:4166208)

Well yeah but at that point there was no real alternative but now Ratel and manufacturers are pushing GT2 more and more.

NaBUru38 · 3 Jul 2023, 14:06 (Ref:4166532)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

I'd love to see more non-German cars

My wish is granted!

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https://www.dailysportscar.com/2023/...gt-racing.html

hosting half of the globetrotting series in Europe is a diversion from the IGTC’s initial goals and evidence of how tough the task of creating marquee events in certain parts of the world has been

Ratel tried Kyalami, Sepang and Laguna Seca, and they failed. Adding the Nordschleife is excellent.

Badlands99 · 5 Jul 2023, 12:04 (Ref:4166811)

Kyalami was a success the first time around .......
Unfortunately COVID and the associated travel restrictions ruined any potential progress.
IMHO he will take the series back there in strength.

TWRv12 · 7 Oct 2023, 10:03 (Ref:4180138)

NLS9 live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEfFC56Z-Pk

timing
https://livetiming.azurewebsites.net/event=20?config=w5

more
https://teilnehmer.vln.de/index.php?lang=en

**FIRE** · 23 Nov 2023, 15:58 (Ref:4187014)

Long time BMW team Walkenhorst switches to Aston Martin:

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As one of AMR’s official race partners, Walkenhorst Motorsport will enter a new Aston Martin Vantage GT3 in the PRO category in both the Fanatec GT World Challenge Europe Endurance Powered by AWS (GTWC) and rounds of the Nürburgring Langstrecken Series (NLS).

...

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2023/...on-martin.html

stuart thompson · 23 Nov 2023, 17:22 (Ref:4187024)

Very strange move considering they pretty much dominated VLN/NLS this year.

**FIRE** · 23 Nov 2023, 18:31 (Ref:4187027)

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Originally Posted by stuart thompson

Very strange move considering they pretty much dominated VLN/NLS this year.

Is it because BMW reduced their support to GT teams due to FIA WEC LMDh?

GT3_Fan · 24 Nov 2023, 02:09 (Ref:4187075)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Is it because BMW reduced their support to GT teams due to FIA WEC LMDh?

Has to be. In fact we are seeing a major shift of GT3 racing now. The German and Italian brands won't control 90% of the GT3 market place anymore! Yes Chevy and Ford are coming in. But we are seeing Aston Martin, McLaren, and Lexus step up their games in 2024 it appears as well.

PhilipR · 4 Jan 2024, 15:34 (Ref:4190769)

Interesting article about the ongoing legal issues for the NES and the organising body

https://www.motorsport.com/vln/news/...suit/10562630/

**FIRE** · 4 Jan 2024, 15:48 (Ref:4190771)

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Originally Posted by PhilipR

Interesting article about the ongoing legal issues for the NES and the organising body

https://www.motorsport.com/vln/news/...suit/10562630/

What a mess.

I didn't know the track is Russian owned.

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