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Then, when a team wins the World Series they have played all the teams in their own league and several from the other. And it is derived from one league (ALMS) playing the other league (LMS). It is not awarded to a single (FIA/SRO) leagues winningest team. Way different logic. No Le Mans is the equivalent of the 'World Series' where two leagues come together to contest with their best teams against each other to declare an overall 'World Champion'! L.P. |
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Oh come on Bob. We all want the days of the unrestricted Can-Am races to come back.
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We can all speculate, but we must also wait until the end of November for any anoucments on the 2010 rules. Plus some 2009 bridge rules ? |
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Blessing from FIA to declare it a world championship?
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The ETCC had stable S2000 regulations, multiple manufacturer's and privateers, and a stable calendar to which they could ad few fly away events. FIA GT has no 2009/2010 regulations in place, no manufacturer's, intend to make wholsale changes to the calendar with few events actually confirmed, and intend to have seperate GT1 and GT2 series, each with 20+ cars, yet current grids number around 30 in total. Whats to stop the rival International GT Open applying for World Championship status from 2010? |
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\Was that not an SRO press conference?
I think that idea was presented to the FIA / ACO / WMSC for the Second time. SRO IIRC is not a member of the WMSC and putting out ideas for events, and is not a rule maker. ALso IIRC the World Motor Sports Counsel( GT Manufactures and GT teams, the FIA and ACO rejected the idea of a GT World Championships only this past few months ago. We will see when the NEW rules come out the end of NOV this year for the 2009 / 2010 rules. |
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Ratel is on record as saying his biggest regret is allowing th International GT Open to exist, growing out of the Spanish GT Series. I can see this series being attractive to European GT teams, while it's free'er regs allow a greater diversity of cars, kind of like BPR GT in '94/'95. |
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Porsche and Ferrari race in class 1 (= GT2), the Sunred in class 2 (= Group 2, like the Mosler in FIA GT? And therefore the Sunred can race in Group 2 class of FIA GT?) and GT3 cars race in class 3. Last edited by FIRE; 11 Aug 2008 at 18:35. |
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Well, in previous seasons all 3 marques plus Mosler were in contention for overall wins, though now the Mosler presence in the series has dropped to effectively 0, and the Sunred cars are not much better (1 fast, 1 not). That being said, 4 GT2 marques battling it out for wins was better than we've seen anywhere else in a good long while, when it has been Ferrari vs. Porsche, with Panoz playing spoiler during a year when Ferrari was weak (the 360 GTC year) and on the ascendancy again (the first 430 season). The fact that 2 of those were de facto GT2s rather than de jure GT2s also speaks in favour of it being a 'freer' sort of competitive series.
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The GT Opens wild card is they can bring in GT3 cars if times get tough, the FIA GT1 World Championship, IMO, will have a tough time attacting 10+ fulltime GT1 teams, while the GT2 teams may feel they are once again the support act, playing second fiddle to the GT1 World Championship. |
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Reading the Bears blog, could we see GT2 manufactuers split from the FIA?
Right now it's the Manufacturs/ACO/LMS/ALMS favouring GT2 vs Ratel/FIA GT and wholesale changes. |
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http://www.sportscarpros.com/cottonb...ed/default.htm
Intersting article. I'm still unconvinced anyone but the proposed FIA GT World Championship needs anymore than GT2. Believe me or not, I'm more excited by the BMW M3 GTR vs 911 vs 430 battle than the talk of Koniggseggs and Zondas. I'd love to see GT2 evolve, while keeping a lid on costs. Last edited by JAG; 20 Aug 2008 at 16:42. |
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