BTCC 2008 Off-season: News & Rumours - Page 11

Wilbo · 18 Nov 2007, 23:44 (Ref:2070466)

BTC - Racing is my vote for the Civics.

BTW I have no background news on this, just a strong feeling.

There is also more good news to follow soon from elsewhere....

duke_toaster · 19 Nov 2007, 16:49 (Ref:2070975)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilbo

BTC - Racing is my vote for the Civics.

That's plausible, so are a lot of outfits ... maybe someone new will enter. Trev Carlin?

Quote:

There is also more good news to follow soon from elsewhere....

A new team Wilbo? If you have the beans, please spill them

Not that I like baked beans or anything, I do like BTCC info though.

gachjoel · 19 Nov 2007, 17:27 (Ref:2071008)

What about Eurotech..they need a 2nd car,
why not buy the pair of them and update what they got ?

Hazard · 19 Nov 2007, 17:35 (Ref:2071013)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gachjoel

What about Eurotech..they need a 2nd car,
why not buy the pair of them and update what they got ?

Cos they've already bought a second Integra

gachjoel · 19 Nov 2007, 17:50 (Ref:2071030)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazard

Cos they've already bought a second Integra

well i s`pose that throws that one out of the window.
must have missed that bit of news,
or not looking in the right places

cheers

Sodemo · 19 Nov 2007, 18:04 (Ref:2071042)

How are we for general numbers in 2008, more or less than 2007?

What about the S2000 V BTC cars, more or less BTC cars than in 2007?

duke_toaster · 19 Nov 2007, 19:11 (Ref:2071081)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sodemo

How are we for general numbers in 2008, more or less than 2007?

We haven't finished yet with that, it looks like we will have more than '07/

Quote:

What about the S2000 V BTC cars, more or less BTC cars than in 2007?

Probably a slight increase, with the Paul Luti entry (if it works) and Andrew Jordan. Some of the Integra and MG drivers may change, I don't think Erkut will though.

duke_toaster · 19 Nov 2007, 20:28 (Ref:2071141)

Similar to what FIRE has done in the WTCC thread, let's tabulate this

Driver	Team	Car	Likely/notes?
F Giovanardi	Vauxhall	Vaux Vectra	Sure as hell
M Neal	Vauxhall	Vaux Vectra	Sure as hell
C Turkington	RAC	BMW 320si	Unless they do WTCC
T O-Cole?	RAC	BMW 320si	Ditto, driver should stay
J Plato	SEAT	SEAT Leon	Sure as hell
D Turner?	SEAT	SEAT Leon	Weak rumours of driver leaving
R Kerry	AFM	BMW 120d	Say they will, should do
Nick Leason	AFM	BMW 120d	Say they will, I'm not convinced.
G Shedden	Dynamics	Honda Civic Mk 8	Sure as hell
T Chilton	Dynamics	Honda Civic Mk 8	Sure as hell
A Jordan	Eurotech	Honda Integra	Sure as hell
M Jordan	Eurotech	Honda Integra	Sure as hell
Erkut	Arkas	Vaux Astra SH	Say they will, should do
?????	Arkas	Vaux Astra SH	Plans to run second car, I'm unconvinced
J George	TH	Honda Integra	Say they will, should do
A Taylor	R'shaw	Honda Integra	Say they will, should do
M Doyle	R'shaw	Honda Civic Mk 7	Say they will, should do
M Bell	Bell	BMW 320i	Say they will, may change car- 320si?
K Burt	Bell	BMW 320i	Ditto.
M Jackson	J'son	BMW 320si	Should do
R Collard	GR Asia	SEAT Leon	Should do
?	GR Asia	SEAT Leon	Don't know ... Adam Jones?
C Stockton	BTC	Lexus IS2000	Say they will, should happen, car change - what about the Hondas?
?????	BTC	Lexus IS2000	Say they will, should happen, car change - what about the Hondas?
D Pinkney	A-Tech	Alfa?	Say they will, should happen. Claim a new Alfa - what about the Hondas?
R Marsh?	A-Tech	Alfa?	Say they will, should happen. Ditto with cars - doesn't R Marsh own part of the team?
E Murray	Qwest	Alfa 156	Say they will, IMO about 50:50
?	M'base	?	Say they will, what about the Hondas?
?	M'base	?	Ditto
J Hughes	Kart	?	Will they get the funds?
?	Kart	?	Will they get the funds? Fiona Leggate?
P Luti	Dread0	MG ZS	Cheap and not very cheerful or not going to happen
?	Clyde	Chevy Lacetti	Dan Eaves? I'm not that sure, but I hope
?	Clyde	Chevy Lacetti	I'm not that sure, but I hope
?	Xero	Lexus IS2000	Rumour
?	Xero	Lexus IS2000	Rumour
?	Arena	?	Prolly not after Chilton signing with Dynamics
?	Arena	?	Prolly not after Chilton joining Dynamics
S Vickers	Oddball	Mazda 3	Rumoured

rdjones · 19 Nov 2007, 20:45 (Ref:2071151)

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Driver	Team	Car	Likely/notes?
P Luti	Dread0	MG ZS	Cheap and not very cheerful or not going to happen

From what I understand it 99% certain that is going to happen

duke_toaster · 19 Nov 2007, 20:49 (Ref:2071156)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdjones

From what I understand it 99% certain that is going to happen

So it's going to be cheap and not very cheerful, then

Aunt Sally · 19 Nov 2007, 23:36 (Ref:2071287)

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Similar to what FIRE has done in the WTCC thread, let's tabulate this

Driver	Team	Car	Likely/notes?
F Giovanardi	Vauxhall	Vaux Vectra	Sure as hell
M Neal	Vauxhall	Vaux Vectra	Sure as hell
C Turkington	RAC	BMW 320si	Unless they do WTCC
T O-Cole?	RAC	BMW 320si	Ditto, driver should stay
J Plato	SEAT	SEAT Leon	Sure as hell
D Turner?	SEAT	SEAT Leon	Weak rumours of driver leaving
R Kerry	AFM	BMW 120d	Say they will, should do
Nick Leason	AFM	BMW 120d	Say they will, I'm not convinced.
G Shedden	Dynamics	Honda Civic Mk 8	Sure as hell
T Chilton	Dynamics	Honda Civic Mk 8	Sure as hell
A Jordan	Eurotech	Honda Integra	Sure as hell
M Jordan	Eurotech	Honda Integra	Sure as hell
Erkut	Arkas	Vaux Astra SH	Say they will, should do
?????	Arkas	Vaux Astra SH	Plans to run second car, I'm unconvinced
J George	TH	Honda Integra	Say they will, should do
A Taylor	R'shaw	Honda Integra	Say they will, should do
M Doyle	R'shaw	Honda Civic Mk 7	Say they will, should do
M Bell	Bell	BMW 320i	Say they will, may change car- 320si?
K Burt	Bell	BMW 320i	Ditto.
M Jackson	J'son	BMW 320si	Should do
R Collard	GR Asia	SEAT Leon	Should do
?	GR Asia	SEAT Leon	Don't know ... Adam Jones?
C Stockton	BTC	Lexus IS2000	Say they will, should happen, car change - what about the Hondas?
?????	BTC	Lexus IS2000	Say they will, should happen, car change - what about the Hondas?
D Pinkney	A-Tech	Alfa?	Say they will, should happen. Claim a new Alfa - what about the Hondas?
R Marsh?	A-Tech	Alfa?	Say they will, should happen. Ditto with cars - doesn't R Marsh own part of the team?
E Murray	Qwest	Alfa 156	Say they will, IMO about 50:50
?	M'base	?	Say they will, what about the Hondas?
?	M'base	?	Ditto
J Hughes	Kart	?	Will they get the funds?
?	Kart	?	Will they get the funds? Fiona Leggate?
P Luti	Dread0	MG ZS	Cheap and not very cheerful or not going to happen
?	Clyde	Chevy Lacetti	Dan Eaves? I'm not that sure, but I hope
?	Clyde	Chevy Lacetti	I'm not that sure, but I hope
?	Xero	Lexus IS2000	Rumour
?	Xero	Lexus IS2000	Rumour
?	Arena	?	Prolly not after Chilton signing with Dynamics
?	Arena	?	Prolly not after Chilton joining Dynamics
S Vickers	Oddball	Mazda 3	Rumoured

There are some interesting comments there! You make it seem so much clearer now!!
I see TD have sold a few 2007 Civics

Ellmau · 20 Nov 2007, 12:02 (Ref:2071621)

This one is missing

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=1643

**touringlegend** · 20 Nov 2007, 12:36 (Ref:2071642)

Martyn Bell's stated his intent to upgrade to 320si's with Kelvin Burt joining him. Don't know if they just fit with the "new BMW team" description though!

SEATFreak · 20 Nov 2007, 13:14 (Ref:2071687)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellmau

This one is missing

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=1643

Yeah. I don't quite understand that one.

When it says "two Schnitzer BMW 320si'" and "run the ones reported to be the ons of Augusto Farfus and Jorg Muller in the 2008 WTCC", and I know I am being pernikerty here, but it doesn't specifically say from that the new team has "bought" the beemers from Schnitzer.

I know it is possible if Schnitzer wanted to but surely it more likely means that the team has bought the two beemers that were run this last season by Jorg and Augusto.

I would love to see Schnitzer help in any way with the team but I don't see it being more likely than a strong Independent outfit buying the beemers from Schnitzer.

JMeissner · 20 Nov 2007, 14:37 (Ref:2071743)

What we ment in this article was that the team is supposed to have bought cars from Schnitzer and nothing else.

Aunt Sally · 20 Nov 2007, 15:01 (Ref:2071752)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMeissner

What we ment in this article was that the team is supposed to have bought cars from Schnitzer and nothing else.

As apposed to being RBM BMW's!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEATFreak

When it says "two Schnitzer BMW 320si'" and "run the ones reported to be the ons of Augusto Farfus and Jorg Muller in the 2008 WTCC",

No it doesn't! It says 2007 WTCC

duke_toaster · 20 Nov 2007, 17:47 (Ref:2071858)

I wouldn't be surprised if the BMWs were bought by Martin Bell. Or for that matter, Motorbase, BTC and A-Tech could.

Now, the updated table!

Driver	Team	Car	Likely/notes?
F Giovanardi	Vauxhall	Vaux Vectra	Sure as hell
M Neal	Vauxhall	Vaux Vectra	Sure as hell
C Turkington	RAC	BMW 320si	Unless they do WTCC
T O-Cole?	RAC	BMW 320si	Ditto, driver should stay
J Plato	SEAT	SEAT Leon	Sure as hell
D Turner?	SEAT	SEAT Leon	Weak rumours of driver leaving
R Kerry	AFM	BMW 120d	Say they will, should do
Nick Leason	AFM	BMW 120d	Say they will, I'm not convinced.
G Shedden	Dynamics	Honda Civic Mk 8	Sure as hell
T Chilton	Dynamics	Honda Civic Mk 8	Sure as hell
A Jordan	Eurotech	Honda Integra	Sure as hell
M Jordan	Eurotech	Honda Integra	Sure as hell
Erkut	Arkas	Vaux Astra SH	Say they will, should do
?????	Arkas	Vaux Astra SH	Plans to run second car, I'm unconvinced
J George	TH	Honda Integra	Say they will, should do
A Taylor	R'shaw	Honda Integra	Say they will, should do
M Doyle	R'shaw	Honda Civic Mk 7	Say they will, should do
M Bell	Bell	BMW 320i	Say they will, may change car- Ex-WTCC 320si?
K Burt	Bell	BMW 320i	Ditto.
M Jackson	J'son	BMW 320si	Should do
R Collard	GR Asia	SEAT Leon	Should do
?	GR Asia	SEAT Leon	Don't know ... Adam Jones?
C Stockton	BTC	Lexus IS2000	Say they will, should happen, car change - what about the Hondas or ex-WTCC BMWs?
?????	BTC	Lexus IS2000	Say they will, should happen, car change - what about the Hondas?
D Pinkney	A-Tech	Alfa?	Say they will, should happen. Claim a new Alfa - what about the Hondas or BMWs?
R Marsh?	A-Tech	Alfa?	Say they will, should happen. Ditto with cars - doesn't R Marsh own part of the team?
E Murray	Qwest	Alfa 156	Say they will, IMO about 50:50
?	M'base	?	Say they will, what about the Hondas?
?	M'base	?	Ditto
J Hughes	Kart	?	Will they get the funds?
?	Kart	?	Will they get the funds? Fiona Leggate?
P Luti	Dread0	MG ZS	Cheap and not very cheerful or not going to happen
?	Clyde	Chevy Lacetti	Dan Eaves? I'm not that sure, but I hope
?	Clyde	Chevy Lacetti	I'm not that sure, but I hope
?	Xero	Lexus IS2000	Rumour, I doubt it.
?	Xero	Lexus IS2000	Rumour, I doubt it.
?	Arena	?	Prolly not after Chilton signing with Dynamics
?	Arena	?	Prolly not after Chilton joining Dynamics
S Vickers	Oddball	Mazda 3	Rumoured

redshoes · 20 Nov 2007, 18:06 (Ref:2071869)

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke_toaster

I wouldn't be surprised if the BMWs were bought by Martin Bell. Or for that matter, Motorbase, BTC and A-Tech could.

Now, the updated table!

You've got A-Tech with 3 different makes, Motorbase with 2, BTC with 3.

It's so much clearer now

duke_toaster · 20 Nov 2007, 18:12 (Ref:2071873)

Quote:

Originally Posted by redshoes

You've got A-Tech with 3 different makes, Motorbase with 2, BTC with 3.

I'm merely stating the possibles ...

Alfa Fan · 20 Nov 2007, 18:19 (Ref:2071877)

Anyone who has announced there plans yet could still have any cars! A-Tech with Leons! Motorbase with 320SI! etc Personally, if I had to bet on the type of car "A-Tech" would be running in 2008, it would be Japanese...

duke_toaster · 20 Nov 2007, 18:36 (Ref:2071894)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfa Fan

Anyone who has announced there plans yet could still have any cars! A-Tech with Leons! Motorbase with 320SI! etc Personally, if I had to bet on the type of car "A-Tech" would be running in 2008, it would be Japanese...

If it's japanese it could be Civics, JAS Accords, Toyota Corollas (they race in procar - are they any good?) ... for all we know, they could be in Proton Impians!

**ScotsBrutesFan** · 20 Nov 2007, 19:11 (Ref:2071928)

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke_toaster

If it's japanese it could be Civics, JAS Accords, Toyota Corollas (they race in procar - are they any good?) ... for all we know, they could be in Proton Impians!

Except that Proton is Malaysian not Japanese

duke_toaster · 20 Nov 2007, 19:13 (Ref:2071930)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScotsBrutesFan

Except that Proton is Malaysian not Japanese

Of course they are, but then again someone could buy the Impians ... does anyone know what is being done with them now?

**FIRE** · 20 Nov 2007, 19:50 (Ref:2071950)

AsianTCC?

duke_toaster · 20 Nov 2007, 19:53 (Ref:2071951)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

AsianTCC?

The Petronas team replaced them with BMW 320sis.

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