FIA GT FIA GT2 Spa 24 Hours • Spa • July 30-Aug 1st - Page 11

arakis · 31 Jul 2010, 19:37 (Ref:2736645)

21:36 127 78 leader to pits, into the box Pedro Lamy is getting ready to take over, but it's not ready yet; working on the engine

NightStalk3r · 31 Jul 2010, 19:38 (Ref:2736646)

#78 back in the pits, it only stopped 13 minutes ago.

NightStalk3r · 31 Jul 2010, 19:39 (Ref:2736647)

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Originally Posted by dj4monie

I'm looking at this - http://www.total24hours.com/24h-spa/...20Schedule.pdf

Live just means they will show live what the SRO give them.

airbusA346 · 31 Jul 2010, 19:39 (Ref:2736648)

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arakis · 31 Jul 2010, 19:40 (Ref:2736649)

bruni back on trak with the #2, fastest on track, I hate ferrari for not taking Spa seriusly engouh, they had potential

NightStalk3r · 31 Jul 2010, 19:41 (Ref:2736650)

As if it wasn't raining hard enough it is now re.raining heavily

AndrewF31 · 31 Jul 2010, 19:41 (Ref:2736651)

nothing on the pdf says it's 24 hour coverage. Most likely the organizers didn't know at the time MotorsTV's schedule for the race.

Bloomberg also only says "Live".

The race was getting entertaining. Shame we continue not having full coverage.

If Hindy is'nt there because of his bad mouthing of the Rat, then it just shows how idiotic the rat is. He should acknowledge his critics are at least 50% correct lol.

airbusA346 · 31 Jul 2010, 19:43 (Ref:2736652)

#78 now in the garage with a misfire according to DSC.

Tom.

dj4monie · 31 Jul 2010, 19:50 (Ref:2736656)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewF31

nothing on the pdf says it's 24 hour coverage. Most likely the organizers didn't know at the time MotorsTV's schedule for the race.

Bloomberg also only says "Live".

The race was getting entertaining. Shame we continue not having full coverage.

If Hindy is'nt there because of his bad mouthing of the Rat, then it just shows how idiotic the rat is. He should acknowledge his critics are at least 50% correct lol.

I think Hindy steps beyond critical and since your in defense mode, I suppose you have agreed with every comment he's made about the SRO? He's also just admitted this past week that he's been too "soft" on things he shouldn't be (ALMS).

I take Hindy for all his imperfections but he burned that bridge awhile ago. I don't think he really supposes nobody listens to his humble radio show.

NightStalk3r · 31 Jul 2010, 19:53 (Ref:2736658)

Do we know what tires #23, #16 and #13 have on? Holzer is reeling Pilet and Bergmeister in.

arakis · 31 Jul 2010, 19:59 (Ref:2736662)

you can figure it out from here,

http://www.gt2europe.com/racefacts2.php
only the 13 holzer was in a box after the rain started, so I guess he has wetts, and that coincides with him being faster then berg

gert · 31 Jul 2010, 20:11 (Ref:2736668)

Would Holzer be really on different tires?
He isn't making up that ground, is he?

The only one who's consequently doing that, is Luhr; 4-5 seconds a lap.

gert · 31 Jul 2010, 20:12 (Ref:2736669)

Isn't it a bit early for the BMS Porsche to pit again?

NightStalk3r · 31 Jul 2010, 20:13 (Ref:2736670)

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Originally Posted by gert

Would Holzer be really on different tires?
He isn't making up that ground, is he?

The only one who's consequently doing that, is Luhr; 4-5 seconds a lap.

Both Bruni and Holzer were lapping a good 4-6 seconds a lap quicker than the top 3 cars but both seem to have dropped into the 2:50's now.

gert · 31 Jul 2010, 20:16 (Ref:2736671)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Both Bruni and Holzer were lapping a good 4-6 seconds a lap quicker than the top 3 cars but both seem to have dropped into the 2:50's now.

Thanks. I must have missed that when I got a(nother) snack

Bruni's still gaining seconds from time to time, but not consistently lap after lap.

cmk · 31 Jul 2010, 20:22 (Ref:2736674)

Ferrari definitely erred by not bring a car crewed by 3 or 4 pros who all know the car well. Bruni and Vilander are very quick, but van de Poele and Longin are not as quick in Ferraris and the BMWs and Porsches have much more well-rounded crews.

gert · 31 Jul 2010, 20:27 (Ref:2736678)

Isn't that typical for the Spa 24H race, where you find a lot of Belgian drivers in some of the faster cars?

e.g. Van de Poele, Bouvy, Mollekens, Goossens, ...

Van de Poele use to be in the Vitaphone Maserati for a few years in succession too.
Maybe the Vitaphone link is why he is in the Ferrari.

cmk · 31 Jul 2010, 20:31 (Ref:2736681)

Oh it most certainly is. With a little wedge, we know Ferrari could have lined up Bruni/Melo/Vilander/? but clearly the dollars weren't allocated.

gert · 31 Jul 2010, 20:36 (Ref:2736684)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmk

Ferrari definitely erred by not bring a car crewed by 3 or 4 pros who all know the car well. Bruni and Vilander are very quick, but van de Poele and Longin are not as quick in Ferraris and the BMWs and Porsches have much more well-rounded crews.

To be honest, not all other cars are that well-balanced either:

* Narac isn't a pro -- though fast enough, and he knows the car - (HIS car)
* Goossens doesn't seem to be an asset to #13 judging by his previous stint.

And Kumpen is certainly not in the same league as Fässler, Luhr and Rockenfeller either.
(OK, that's an Audi -- not a BMW or Porsche)

Acid09 · 31 Jul 2010, 20:41 (Ref:2736685)

The BMW crews are pretty evenly matched, even though I don't know how well Dirk Adorf does at Spa. He's a Nordschleife ace for sure, I don't think he has much experience with other tracks though.

gert · 31 Jul 2010, 20:43 (Ref:2736687)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

The BMW crews are pretty evenly matched, even though I don't know how well Dirk Adorf does at Spa. He's a Nordschleife ace for sure, I don't think he has much experience with other tracks though.

To be honest I had never heard of the guy before -- hence I reserve any judgment on him.

Dead-Eye · 31 Jul 2010, 20:50 (Ref:2736690)

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Originally Posted by gert

To be honest I had never heard of the guy before -- hence I reserve any judgment on him.

You're not the only one...I cringed when the commentators called him a "Toyota dealer" - he (or his family) do own a Toyota dealership, but that makes it sound like he's a gentleman driver who bought his seat, not a proper works driver.

Acid09 · 31 Jul 2010, 20:53 (Ref:2736693)

Both BMWs are losing quite some time right now, seems like the car is not as quick in the rain.

gert · 31 Jul 2010, 20:57 (Ref:2736695)

Maybe the Michelin tires are better suited to the condition than the BMW's Dunlops?

--

Ragginger too seems to struggle, but that can't be down to tires.

E46 · 31 Jul 2010, 21:08 (Ref:2736699)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

You're not the only one...I cringed when the commentators called him a "Toyota dealer" - he (or his family) do own a Toyota dealership, but that makes it sound like he's a gentleman driver who bought his seat, not a proper works driver.

He was the poleman in 2009 24 hours of Nürburgring. Certainly not a gentleman driver.

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