[Team] Aston Martin Racing in 2023. One of the cars still has Alonso.

[wolfhound]

I think Ferrari still have their lawyers employed on the case though so its not over yet.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

I think Ferrari still have their lawyers employed on the case though so its not over yet.

Not to mention RP themselves have appealed the penalty (fine) and also they wish to clear their name of cheating implications..

[wolfhound]

Originally Posted by E.B

Not to mention RP themselves have appealed the penalty (fine) and also they wish to clear their name of cheating implications..

There appear to be talks going on in the background so we might see the whole lot dropped.

The other point is that it will be 2023 before it will be practical to do what RP have done as next year teams have to use the current chassis with limited mods and the following year everyone will be starting from scratch with new designs.

[Casper]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

Renault are to withdraw their appeal against the Racing Point brake duct copying case after assurances that the new rules will prevent such cases in the future.



https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...ke-duct-appeal

Deals, politics & F1....Renault have made their point but some are believers and some are not and this dragging on does not help F1 at all. It would be fair to assume that this was payback from Renault for the brake GPS thing but assumption is all it is. Some speculation was put forward that Renault recruited Ricciardo from RB as payback for when RB criticised Renault over the PU's they supplied so there maybe some history of payback mentality from the TP. I carefully sit on the fence with all this but deals have definitely been done that much is obvious.

[wolfhound]

Both Ferrari and RP have now dropped their appeals over the brake ducts so we can consign this to history. Mind you Ferrari have bigger things to worry about.



https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...ke-duct-appeal

[Aysedasi]

Very good news. Nothing more to see here....

[chunterer]

Thank god for some common sense from the teams.

[S griffin]

Finally we can concentrate on what's happening on the track

[billy bleach]

So Vestappen says the 2020 Alpha Touri is a 2019 Redbull?!

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

So Vestappen says the 2020 Alpha Touri is a 2019 Redbull?!

Is that a surprise?

[steve nielsen]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

So Vestappen says the 2020 Alpha Touri is a 2019 Redbull?!

the rear end and all other allowed parts is the RB15, yes

[Moneyseeker]

Perez to leave RP at the end of 2020, looks like Vettel will be announced soon, maybe at Mugello?

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[wolfhound]

Sad to see Perez leave as he has been very consistent over the years. It will be interesting to see where he goes and how he gets on next year.


It looks like Vettel is going to be his replacement. While he is high profile I wonder which version of Vettel we will see next year. He will also be the prime focus of the team for results and leadership with a team mate who is unlikely to offer a serious challenge to him.

[HDTVKSS]

Perez has the right to feel more than a little miffed about this. His actions essentially saved the team. Im wondering if his $ became less required due to increased championship position as well budget cap?

I wouldn't be surprised to see Perez take his $ to Haas

[Taxi645]

Vettel or Russel?

[Greem]

Originally Posted by Taxi645

Vettel or Russel?

The former:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...2021-f1-season

[Akrapovic]

Vettel has accidentally gotten himself a better seat.

We call this the Reverse Fernando.

[Taxi645]

Originally Posted by Greem

The former:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...2021-f1-season

Would've been a surprise move though. Hope Vettel will thrive again at Aston Martin.

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

Sad to see Perez leave as he has been very consistent over the years. It will be interesting to see where he goes and how he gets on next year.


It looks like Vettel is going to be his replacement. While he is high profile I wonder which version of Vettel we will see next year. He will also be the prime focus of the team for results and leadership with a team mate who is unlikely to offer a serious challenge to him.

I still think this is a very high profile way of making Lance look better than he is. Lance beating a (over the hill) 4 time champ is much better than being beaten than a very solid Mexican. Heck the team won't even have to pit Vettel to move Lance ahead like they have done regularly with Perez and Hulkenberg.

[Born Racer]

Some would say it's an underwhelming decision. Pérez is probably better than Vettel this year. Nevertheless, maybe Seb can now iron out the mistakes and still show a turn of pace.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Vettel has accidentally gotten himself a better seat.

We call this the Reverse Fernando.

Sadly for me the support I had for Racing Point has, with this news, evaporated. So much for the loyalty they promised Checo in return for his actions which in truth allowed Racing Point to even exist. And to replace him with someone of dubious qualities.... cant wait for "Sebastian, Lance is faster than you, do you understand?"
Best wishes to Perez with his Mexican Millions in whatever / wherever his next chapter may be.

[greentrumpet]

I can't see this doing Aston/RP any good but the brains in that team must count for something. In an overwhelmingly dominant car, under the pre hybrid rules Vettel was exceptional. Webber occasionally had the beating of him, Seb made the odd hot headed mistake and could be flustered. Since then Ricciardo made him look normal, some felt Seb underperformed to use his "get out clause". At Ferrari he's seen off Domenicali and Arrivabene who provided him with a car that led the Championship at times and looked capable of winning it. He made aggressive and silly mistakes throwing away what could've been his last chances of a WDC. Now Leclerc has him beaten again and RP are chucking Checo and his $$$ for him. I really don't get it.

[rustyfan]

Not sure I agree with the swap, but at least it'll be interesting to see what Vettel can do behind the wheel of the Raci... err... Aston Martin.

As for Perez, I hope he ends up at Haas.

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by greentrumpet

I can't see this doing Aston/RP any good but the brains in that team must count for something. In an overwhelmingly dominant car, under the pre hybrid rules Vettel was exceptional. Webber occasionally had the beating of him, Seb made the odd hot headed mistake and could be flustered. Since then Ricciardo made him look normal, some felt Seb underperformed to use his "get out clause". At Ferrari he's seen off Domenicali and Arrivabene who provided him with a car that led the Championship at times and looked capable of winning it. He made aggressive and silly mistakes throwing away what could've been his last chances of a WDC. Now Leclerc has him beaten again and RP are chucking Checo and his $$$ for him. I really don't get it.

I am sort of on the same page sentiments wise. However i've always felt Seb has been vastly overrated. He seems to only excel with a car that exactly suits his style. I.e the bloen diffuser RB's?
All other stars have managed to show their worth in less than specific cars.

[billy bleach]

Unless Seb is putting the band back together? Maybe another high profile arrival is imminent ?..