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That tower wouldn't look out of place at an airport! I always thought it was over the top considering the tracks real short-comings, safety for drivers and cars, have been ignored. I know where I would have spent that money.
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Sometimes one has to consider the safety and the comfort of the people actually running the event too, my understanding is that the old building had been condemmed as an unsafe structure. For sure I know of the odd time that I had to climb up the ladder attached to a wall held together by borer dust and bird crap that it did not look very secure and the gale that blew through the place wasn't flash either.
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Interesting happenings in the world of MSNZ, TMC (MPL), Tier 1 and the MSNZ Summer Series.
The have been two media items in the last 24 hours which indicate that the wheels may have actually fallen off. The first came out from MSNZ : Media Statement Monday 13 August 2012 MotorSport NZ begins dialogue with V8 SuperTourers MotorSport NZ has met with V8 SuperTourers to discuss a way forward for the betterment of the Sport. The meeting between MotorSport NZ’s president Shayne Harris and board members of V8 SuperTourers held last Friday was very positive and opens the way for further discussion in the coming weeks. MotorSport NZ president Shayne Harris is encouraged by the talks. "I'm optimistic we can now move forward and find a way for the country's top race classes to work together" said Mr Harris. "This is a really positive move not just for the competitors involved but for the country’s circuits, officials and race fans." Ends Issued by: MotorSport New Zealand Contact: Shayne Harris The second was an article from Speedcafe : V8 SuperTourers eyeing Challenge Cup/NZV8 merger Monday 13th August, 2012 The future of New Zealand motorsport took a twist today with the possibility emerging that the NZV8 Championship could soon be combined with V8 SuperTourers’ second-tier series, the V8 Challenge Cup. In the biggest indication yet that the future of NZV8s as a standalone category is under threat, MotorSport NZ – under which the NZV8 class is run – has issued a public statement suggesting a compromise is afoot. After a landmark meeting between V8 SuperTourers and MotorSport NZ last Friday, V8ST chief executive Didier Debae told Speedcafe.com that ultimately there can only be one top level touring car class operating. “If you understand what the talks are about there will only be one left, basically,” Debae said. “Because there seems to be very little entries in the other championship we are going to end up taking over that part of the business. “And that is taking over the cars that have been built for the series and amalgamate them with the Challenge Cup (which is currently being run for the existing NZV8 chassis).” Debae, who came in to replace Paul Radisich as CEO of V8ST a couple of months ago, also suggested there could be a name change for the V8 Challenge Cup if an amalgamation takes place. Meanwhile, MotorSport NZ – which recently underwent a significant internal shake-up – says that the talks with V8STs have been positive. “I’m optimistic we can now move forward and find a way for the country’s top race classes to work together” MotorSport New Zealand president Shayne Harris said in a statement. “This is a really positive move not just for the competitors involved but for the country’s circuits, officials and race fans.” NZV8s could not be contacted by Speedcafe.com for comment on this story today. While there is probably "spin" in both of the media items, it seems pretty clear that things are far from well with the financial position of TMC/MPL, the lack of entrants in the New Generation NZV8 class and the lack of credible support classes for Tier 1. The MSNZ Tier 1 Summer Series appears to either be a non-starter or a shadow of what (according to MSNZ's President) should be the pinnacle of NZ motor sport. It seems that MSNZ are now going "cap in hand" to SuperTourers to try and salvage something to save wholesale embarrassment in the coming season. It seems very ironic considering MSNZ's past hostility to SuperTourers and the fact that MSNZ's GM is a director of the company that is suing SuperTourers. Now this is all happening, just watch the finger pointing. I bet MSNZ Executive will take no responsibility. They were the people charged by MSNZ members to look after member's interests. MSNZ have a majority 60% interest in TMC/MPL and had an obligation to exercise that interest for the benefit of member clubs. Despite being on notice for the last few years that there were issues with TMC that needed to be dealt with, the Executive either did nothing, didn't have the ability to work out what they had to do or did too little too late. Anyone who had the impertinence to raise these issues were chastised and labelled "stirrers". The only positive from all of this is that the outcome may be in the best interests of motor sport. However, if MSNZ Executive had actually listened to the concerns of members rather than treating them as irritating scaremongers, then there would have been a lot less grief and MSNZ would have been able to sit down with SuperTourers with more cards to play with. |
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13 Aug 2012, 22:09 (Ref:3119544) | #262 | |
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I think V8ST hold all the cards and NZV8's have nothing left to bargain with.
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14 Aug 2012, 01:18 (Ref:3119577) | #263 | ||
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Wonder if the court action will be quietly dropped...?
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14 Aug 2012, 01:21 (Ref:3119580) | #264 | ||
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you would think so in this case GB, there is no point in carrying on with 'sueing' people. The costs are astronomical and i had heard that there was a counter-sue on the table as well
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14 Aug 2012, 02:31 (Ref:3119592) | #265 | ||
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If that were correct, it's a classic play (usually a bluff). You sue me and I'll think of some reason to sue you back. Then there are potentially substantial costs and risks for both parties, and often the first party reconsiders.
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14 Aug 2012, 03:07 (Ref:3119602) | #266 | ||
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yes, totally agree. Its also a very expensive excercise for someone to go through. Its all fine being puffy-chested and threatening that you are going to sue, but to actually go ahead and pull it off, totally different kettle of fish.
The last company i worked for threatened to sue me (cos i left them under conditions that could have been deemed sue-able) and i got all worried etc, but my lawyer (an expensive 'thug') just said bring it on, they have to do all the leg work and they soon realise that its jus too much and they back off. Often in NZ when i hear the words 'sueing someone' i instantly think its just a knee-jerk reaction that will settle down in a month or two once they realise the uphill battle they have. |
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21 Aug 2012, 11:00 (Ref:3122485) | #267 | |
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What was Mr Short doing at TV 3 in the last few days I wonder?
Cant be MPL business as he HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MOTORSPORT NEW ZEALAND AND/OR MPL anymore. What rubbish. The same team are doing the same bidding for the same organisations... |
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Interesting, then, that the Super Trucks will not only be at Levels this year but also Taupo and Ruapuna. I wonder why those tracks have decided the potential risk to their infrastructure from truck crashes is worth taking...
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21 Aug 2012, 22:23 (Ref:3122744) | #271 | ||
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Because trucks bring in the crowds
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21 Aug 2012, 22:40 (Ref:3122746) | #272 | |
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Southern man may be the best to answer this but I thought he had said the biggest issue that Levels had was the seal, I thought trucks would make this far worse?
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22 Aug 2012, 00:33 (Ref:3122772) | #273 | ||
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Personally I hate truck racing because I hate trucks, and the damage they do to racetracks is severe when they come off, which they invariably do, not to mention the seal issues as mentioned above. Most European tracks and up until now all but Levels in NZ had banned them because of this.
But you are right, Revhead, they do indeed bring in the crowds. Bet you never see them at HD or indeed at Puke after their last foray there, though... |
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It is a different type of racing that's for sure! Lol
Yeah that puke incident was pretty scary. And the previous one where the cab came off. I guess when you stand to pull in the biggest takings of your calander you can make some acceptions |
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in Levels case, it will be their only income, unless they start rebuilding the club from the grassroots up. but that would require a massive cleanout........ not unlike what MSNZ requires.
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