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Old 1 Oct 2020, 15:46 (Ref:4007808)   #251
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I think it comes down to drivers excuses rather than cars speeds.

Most drivers find "the other guy had a faster car than me, it's not fair" works better for them than "I was pretty @#$% today and the other guy/girl kicked my butt".

1.something mph difference is not going to be an overtake or not - unless you've got miles of M1 to make it on!
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Old 1 Oct 2020, 16:21 (Ref:4007813)   #252
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I don't think he posts on this forum.
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Interview with Rory Butcher, he is completely fine after his accident (did a 10k run apparently...!) and the car has been sent off for repairs to the roll cage, so not written off. Not sure yet whether it'll be ready for Croft.
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Old 1 Oct 2020, 16:25 (Ref:4007816)   #253
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Interview with Rory Butcher, he is completely fine after his accident (did a 10k run apparently...!) and the car has been sent off for repairs to the roll cage, so not written off. Not sure yet whether it'll be ready for Croft.
Good to hear that he is OK, that looked like a massive off. cars can be repaired (eventually), it's not so easy doing it to drivers.
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I don't think he posts on this forum.
Jason Plato is definitely a member.

Surely Turkington was just answering a question: "Why were you only tenth?" Is he supposed to say nothing? I think we're reading too much into it and over analysing it.
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Old 1 Oct 2020, 17:34 (Ref:4007832)   #255
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Surely Turkington was just answering a question: "Why were you only tenth?" Is he supposed to say nothing? I think we're reading too much into it and over analysing it.
Absolutely. This is usually the case when a quote looks a bit odd. It's an answer to a question.

It's like when people get annoyed that [ex-F1 driver] has said something in the press. It's usually because they were asked lol.
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Old 1 Oct 2020, 17:49 (Ref:4007835)   #256
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Surely Turkington was just answering a question: "Why were you only tenth?" Is he supposed to say nothing? I think we're reading too much into it and over analysing it.
I think the responses were as a result of this:

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Turks again complains about straight line speed , maybe a dig at TOCA for too low boost ?

wonder if "other cars" he means Infiniti
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Old 1 Oct 2020, 18:18 (Ref:4007837)   #257
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Turkington said this on twitter

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“I was getting murdered on the straights, we couldn’t do anything to contend with that. Glad to get a few points out of it but it was horrible out there. The car was handling well, we did a good job, but to watch you don’t see that.”
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 08:13 (Ref:4007893)   #258
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If anything it would b more likely directed at the Hondas and Fords than the Infiniti. From the onboards the BMW would pull a little from the Infiniti and the Ford would pull away a bit from the BMW.

I think the only reason why the Infiniti was brought up was because I've seen posts wanting Sutton to have a bad weekend or have the car slowed.
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So he feels like he was 'being murdered' on the straights. Why do you think he was referring to the Q50s?
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 09:27 (Ref:4007918)   #260
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I think if you look at some of the speed trap times from the races Turkington is either mid table or more towards the bottom. Maybe they made the mistake of invoking that new 78mph lower boost map across the whole race?
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I think if you look at some of the speed trap times from the races Turkington is either mid table or more towards the bottom.
Agreed - I think the 3-series does suffer a little bit in a straight line compared to some other cars on the grid - however I do not think the Q50 is one of those.

Interestingly, Cook commented on Turkington's twitter post something along the lines of 'welcome to my world'. Yet other FK8s were towards the top of the speed-trap figures. Crees set a 4th fastest Intermediate, and 3rd fastest finish line speed in two separate sessions. If 4/5 FK8s are quick in a straight line, then that lack of speed is either an issue with the car itself or the driver......
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Agreed - I think the 3-series does suffer a little bit in a straight line compared to some other cars on the grid - however I do not think the Q50 is one of those.

Interestingly, Cook commented on Turkington's twitter post something along the lines of 'welcome to my world'. Yet other FK8s were towards the top of the speed-trap figures. Crees set a 4th fastest Intermediate, and 3rd fastest finish line speed in two separate sessions. If 4/5 FK8s are quick in a straight line, then that lack of speed is either an issue with the car itself or the driver......
When the 3 series debuted last year it was mighty in a straight line. It was only the fact that subsequent boost reductions have dented this strength.
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When the 3 series debuted last year it was mighty in a straight line. It was only the fact that subsequent boost reductions have dented this strength.
Which is to be expected I guess.

BTCC's appeal is built on close racing, with the possibility of multiple race winners and no obvious outcome. If one car was seen to have a significant performance advantage in a particular element of the lap, then a lot of viewers would be put off.

I think viewers are comfortable if particular cars have a slight gain over others in:
Starts, high-speed corners, direction change, acceleration, top-speed, tight corners, drive, tyre wear.

The problem comes when that advantage is significant, or is across all elements. Being 'mighty' in a straight line will put (many) viewers off.
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Old 3 Oct 2020, 17:28 (Ref:4008298)   #264
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time for a Croft thread ?

any info on Mootrbase situation ? maybe we are blessed with Neate gone ?
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Check Paul O'Neill's Youtube channel soon, apparently he speaks to all three drivers.
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Andy Neate on the incidents (about halfway through.) Basically says he felt he did nothing wrong and Tim Harvey made him look bad.
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he felt he did nothing wrong
Inclined to agree re: race one, not so sure with race three.
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Andy Neate on the incidents (about halfway through.) Basically says he felt he did nothing wrong and Tim Harvey made him look bad.
so he claims to be totally inicent and that commenators disotrted things

bet Jade Edwards might disagree
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Has Paul's girlfriend thrown him out and he's now living in his car?
Ha I do find the set up a bit strange...
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Has Paul's girlfriend thrown him out and he's now living in his car?
youtubers often use to film from their car
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He's a scouser, he'll be nicking somebody's wifi for his broadcast
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I do like Paul but I did want to keep handing him a handkerchief and shout "Sit on your hands mate and stop wiping your nose!"
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Saw this the other day, seems quite a nice touch

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Saw this the other day, seems quite a nice touch

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I'd forgotten Joanna had run in the Integra... quite disturbing as I was rather involved with that team back then! Need some new memory chips...

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