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Old 11 Apr 2022, 12:21 (Ref:4106304)   #2826
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When can the extra power be deployed? That article just says that the system can only be used when at "full traction", which is a bit wooly. I thought there was a minimum speed to deploy but I can't recall?
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Old 11 Apr 2022, 12:24 (Ref:4106306)   #2827
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When can the extra power be deployed? That article just says that the system can only be used when at "full traction", which is a bit wooly. I thought there was a minimum speed to deploy but I can't recall?
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"The only constraint that we plan to have on the deployment of the system is a minimum vehicle speed to avoid some cars using it while others are still traction-limited. Beyond that, it will be up to the teams. It could be completely
controlled by the button on the steering wheel or it could be pre-set to provide assistance under certain conditions."

I assume they have determined from the cars previously where their traction limits are, and have factored this into the minimum speed mark.
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Old 11 Apr 2022, 12:30 (Ref:4106307)   #2828
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When can the extra power be deployed? That article just says that the system can only be used when at "full traction", which is a bit wooly. I thought there was a minimum speed to deploy but I can't recall?
look at the dan lloyd vid i posted. its all explained there.
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Old 11 Apr 2022, 12:40 (Ref:4106309)   #2829
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When can the extra power be deployed? That article just says that the system can only be used when at "full traction", which is a bit wooly. I thought there was a minimum speed to deploy but I can't recall?
3rd gear, 120kph with full traction. Mash the button earlier and it locks out for 2secs.

@crmalcolm - what is the min weight and power for the cars? That might be a more useful metric to show the difference between the +70kg for a winner vs -15s of boost
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Old 11 Apr 2022, 12:57 (Ref:4106311)   #2830
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3rd gear, 120kph with full traction. Mash the button earlier and it locks out for 2secs.

@crmalcolm - what is the min weight and power for the cars? That might be a more useful metric to show the difference between the +70kg for a winner vs -15s of boost
I presume that's to stop the RWD cars from being able to jump cars out of hairpins etc?
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Old 11 Apr 2022, 13:14 (Ref:4106313)   #2831
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I presume that's to stop the RWD cars from being able to jump cars out of hairpins etc?
In the main yes. The more power you can put down at lower speed, the greater the advantage it gives in acceleration.
So limiting the use until all cars can apply the additional power makes sense.
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Old 11 Apr 2022, 16:53 (Ref:4106340)   #2832
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Old 11 Apr 2022, 17:15 (Ref:4106343)   #2833
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Could only be Team Hard, couldn't it? Hard to watch!! And they couldn't find a better backdrop than a dark corner of a warehouse!

As for the livery, bright colours get a plus, but it looks like something a four year old has put together.
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Old 11 Apr 2022, 17:27 (Ref:4106347)   #2834
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The livery certainly wouldn't have been my choice - nor even the video reveal - but it will probably stand out amongst the corporate sameness that runs through pretty well all the grid. And I am guessing that his backers will be pleased with the promotion of their brands.
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Old 11 Apr 2022, 17:45 (Ref:4106353)   #2835
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The livery certainly wouldn't have been my choice - nor even the video reveal - but it will probably stand out amongst the corporate sameness that runs through pretty well all the grid. And I am guessing that his backers will be pleased with the promotion of their brands.
Plenty of people seem to enjoy the reveal, and most seem to accept that it is just a bit of fun.

Doesn't seem to be doing anyone any harm - so fair play to them all for it.
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Old 11 Apr 2022, 18:08 (Ref:4106358)   #2836
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Plenty of people seem to enjoy the reveal, and most seem to accept that it is just a bit of fun.

Doesn't seem to be doing anyone any harm - so fair play to them all for it.

I wasn't knocking it; all I said is that, being an old fart, it probably wasn't aimed at me.
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Old 11 Apr 2022, 18:13 (Ref:4106360)   #2837
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As for the livery, bright colours get a plus, but it looks like something a four year old has put together.
At first glance I thought it was last year's Hyundai livery on a different car.
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I wasn't knocking it; all I said is that, being an old fart, it probably wasn't aimed at me.
Apologies if my post seemed like I thought you were knocking it. I was actually agreeing with your comment about 'it will probably stand out amongst the corporate sameness'
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I don’t hate that, at least it’s not black and white.
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Could only be Team Hard, couldn't it? Hard to watch!! And they couldn't find a better backdrop than a dark corner of a warehouse!

As for the livery, bright colours get a plus, but it looks like something a four year old has put together.
His wife designed it ?
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At first glance I thought it was last year's Hyundai livery on a different car.
Glad someone else thought that. I had to double check it wasn't last years reveal video.
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It’s a valid criticism though. Black cars are harder to make out at a glance than brighter, blocky colours, especially in a sea of other black cars.

Edit - I understand WHY it happens. It only works if your title sponsor has an obvious corporate colour and a big enough bag of cash blah blah….
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It’s a valid criticism though. Black cars are harder to make out at a glance than brighter, blocky colours, especially in a sea of other black cars.

Edit - I understand WHY it happens. It only works if your title sponsor has an obvious corporate colour and a big enough bag of cash blah blah….
Hang on only yesterday the Bright Blocky Parfitt car was being slated!
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Hang on only yesterday the Bright Blocky Parfitt car was being slated!
I like it but I think I’m in the minority.
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"A livery inspired by team boss Matt Neal Racing's first livery in the BTCC in 1992!"
Really?

I mean I get it's silver stripes on a black background but if they hadn't said I would never have guessed, and even after they said it I'm still struggling to see it.
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