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Control tyre for 2017 Bathurst 12 Hour note it only tips Pirelli to be the control tyre, Not that it is yet. |
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Unless there is widely available evidence one would believe there is a fair amount of doubt - wouldnt you? Control tyre confirmed the event loses more of its identity and what made it the interesting |
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Michelin got their ass handed to them and whether true or not accusations got made that Pirelli broke the rules. Teams are not going to come up with that on their own. Draw your own conclusions. |
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Tyres, mean so little to it, heck they mean so little that they hadn't been mentioned in this thread up until this discussion now driver seedings, a much more interesting topic |
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If I was a team, coming from overseas for a one off marque event like the 12 hours, i wouldn't want to be stuck on the wrong tyre brand and only find out once i'm here ...
Its a good move to go to one tyre manufacturer. I also didn't hear anyone in the crowd say there were there to watch the Michelin vs Pirelli war ... I think its a sensible decision that will go unnoticed by most and should only provide closer racing. |
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Not really. When making definitive statements as you did, there is usually something to support it?
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Michelin and Pirelli run GT3 cars and events all throughout Europe so I don't see how any International teams were at a disadvantage in last years event |
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If you can remember the Giz was almost a lap down after he triped over his D!#$ and doing his drive through, Only to be brought back into contention after yet another Pirelli tyre blew up. Hope they have lots to supply after what the teams went through at Phillip Island. |
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It certainly contributed to the stunning lap times we saw in the last 2 years and hopefully the move to a single tyre still sees multiple compounds being accessible. Anyway its done and whatever the true intentions it will create a level playing field and bring it in line with the overseas blancpain series which makes sense. |
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The major difference between VASC and AGT or B12hr is that in VASC there is only 1 tyre size used. Front or rear, whichever brand car, they are all the same size and go on the same wheel. Having different dry compounds as well as inters is more feasible.
For the 12 hour most cars have a smaller front, larger rear tyre size, and whilst I don't know for sure, I imagine it would be quite feasible that different makes of car might use different widths and/or diameter tyres. If so, introducing multiple compounds would create a logistical nightmare. |
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The race is adopting more regs and rules from Blancpain Endurance Series so the use of a control tyre supplier like Pirelli which is similar to BES is no big surprise.
I like a good tire war but Ive got Super GT to satisfy that craving |
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I take the move to a likely Pirelli control tyre to be more about falling into line with the other events that form part of the series that the 12hr is a part of...same with the move to allowing all 'professional' teams
Surely that is just a part of motor racing? |
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Even in the last couple of years, the 12 hour only had a choice of two brands as dictated by the rules |
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LOL such amateur world championships
Generally I like tyre wars as it forces the manufacturer to make good quality tyres and let's the drivers race hard. I hate seeing drivers have to tiptoe around to make them last. Having said that, I have no qualms with Pirelli being the sole tyre supplier. They are the benchmark for SRO BOP and have shown they can produce a good tyre. With Pirelli going to huge lengths to produce a good tyre for Bathurst, I doubt Michelin would have any advantage anyway. |
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Never a good idea to want to continue to argue a point when your lack of knowledge on the category keeps embarassing you.
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In return I throw at you F1, NASCAR, Indy car WTCC, BTCC, Blanpain, V8 Supercar, Formula E, DTM. Like i said, "Most major series don't have multiple tyre choices." But nice use of a strawman again, you're very good at it, Only using part of my sentence, As for your sheep and still managed to totally ignore the fact that we havent had open tyre barnds at the 12 hour for 4 years now and probably longer Last edited by peckstar; 14 Aug 2016 at 03:52. |
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I don't think the problem is this statement...
But this one... But let's just dismiss those world championship series and get this topic back on track shall we? |
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but as you said get back on topic anyway, instead of trying to score cheap points over part of a comment |
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2017 Liqui Moly Bathurst 12 hour: Feb 3-5
Sorry I thought that when you said "only amateur series" you meant ONLY amateur series. Clearly I am mistaken.
Yes, let's move on. My apologies. |
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Snipe, snipe, troll, dig, pester, harangue, whine, score points and on it goes.
This is not directed at any particular one of the group on here who seem to constantly dig, make snide comment, pick, score cheap points, pester and generally behave like kindergarten children. It is directed at all of you. For Chrissake please grow up and cease this constant rubbish. Honestly, it's hard to believe that ANY of you are over the age of 4. At the very least please put your bloody handbags away and behave civilly. What a pathetic effort and a real shame to have this thread sink to nothing other than utterly meaningless tripe. |
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Yeah....righto. In other news looks like AMAC Motorsport is making the move to Lamborghini. Will be interesting if new machinery takes them back to the 12 Hour?
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