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Old 24 Aug 2018, 19:20 (Ref:3845852)   #276
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smart if true!

who do they use then?

request the driver who lost their RPFI seat or give Kubica a shot?

certainly with Kubica you get a great story but if he comes in a nails it, then the team look like idiots for wasting half the season.
It might not be RK, as Claire allegedly has the invoice pad close to hand for drivers with cash.

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Old 24 Aug 2018, 19:41 (Ref:3845858)   #277
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How many drivers are hanging around and eligible, though? Kubica is the obvious choice. If the whole circus happens.
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Old 24 Aug 2018, 19:46 (Ref:3845861)   #278
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if i was Williams i would saddle the now currently pointless RPFI with Stroll for the remainder of the season.
Exactly my thoughts. Get a settlement and swap him for Ocon and they might just beat them to 9th...
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Old 25 Aug 2018, 18:06 (Ref:3846038)   #279
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I still puzzle over all this 'Kubica the obvious choice' business. I just don't see it. If Ocon is displaced from RPFI by Stroll (an advantage for RPFI which is as oxymoronic as it gets), he's the obvious choice to me.....
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Old 26 Aug 2018, 06:26 (Ref:3846094)   #280
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Tbh for "normal" peoples it would be a no brainer for Williams to sign Ocon ASAP , he will be way more competitive than the risky choice to sign Kubica... some rumours also annunce Artem Markelov (or on a different note even Mazepin's father would inject some cash in Williams and make an all Russian team), in that case i am worried for the futur Williams, they will probably end up like Forti Corse back in the days , Team for rich kids.



But seems like Mercedes is more looking in direction of Vandoorne's seat .



So either the Williams seat is already taken or Mercedes do not put much faith into Williams ....
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Old 26 Aug 2018, 07:03 (Ref:3846095)   #281
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The way they are going they would struggle to qualify for the GP2 race.
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Old 26 Aug 2018, 07:04 (Ref:3846096)   #282
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Seems strange Merc would pay McL rather than Williams to take Ocon, so maybe Kubica has a contractual hold on a seat becoming available?
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Old 26 Aug 2018, 07:55 (Ref:3846103)   #283
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In which case Williams clearly don't have a plan.........
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Old 26 Aug 2018, 08:08 (Ref:3846110)   #284
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Seems strange Merc would pay McL rather than Williams to take Ocon, so maybe Kubica has a contractual hold on a seat becoming available?

Kubica is Officialy "Williams Reserve Driver"



The other strange thing would be Vandoorne Moving to Sauber (instead of Ericsson) after being supported for so long by McLaren...


At the end nothing makes sense ..... but well this is Formula 1 as would say Claire Williams
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Old 26 Aug 2018, 09:35 (Ref:3846125)   #285
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Wouldn't surprise me to see Kubica in the car at Monza, but we'll see what happens with Stroll first
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Old 26 Aug 2018, 22:49 (Ref:3846416)   #286
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Sirotkin secures his best result to date but still the sole driver with goose eggs so far this season. Surely Kubica would have scored by now.....
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Sirotkin secures his best result to date but still the sole driver with goose eggs so far this season. Surely Kubica would have scored by now.....
But then again, who knows? What we do know is that the car is completely ineffective. Putting a driver in it and assuming that he is still some way as good as he was a number of years ago still seems completely hypothetical to me.....
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Old 27 Aug 2018, 09:30 (Ref:3846475)   #288
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Close for Sirotkin, but still the car ain't good enough for top ten at the moment
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Close for Sirotkin, but still the car ain't good enough for top ten at the moment
As someone else said, it probably isn't good enough for GP2 at the moment......
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But then again, who knows? What we do know is that the car is completely ineffective. Putting a driver in it and assuming that he is still some way as good as he was a number of years ago still seems completely hypothetical to me.....
It's hard to believe Williams was the car to have when I watched my 1st F1 race in 1993.
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As someone else said, it probably isn't good enough for GP2 at the moment......
Out of curiosity what was the difference between the best GP2 time and Williams time (if track condition were comparable
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This deal will include Mercedes suspension components, and a 2019 Mercedes gearbox, apparently.
The deal has been called off. No Mercedes gearbox for Williams.


Claire Williams: "We are not taking the Mercedes gearbox. There is no increased collaboration outside of the engine deal.

"We talked about it and explored the opportunity with Mercedes. And it didn’t make sense for us for a number of reasons."


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The deal has been called off. No Mercedes gearbox for Williams.


Claire Williams: "We are not taking the Mercedes gearbox. There is no increased collaboration outside of the engine deal.

"We talked about it and explored the opportunity with Mercedes. And it didn’t make sense for us for a number of reasons."


Oh dear!
Unless they have something demon waiting in the background that they've designed themselves I see this as another nail in the coffin of a once great team...
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Oh dear!
Unless they have something demon waiting in the background that they've designed themselves I see this as another nail in the coffin of a once great team...

Maybe the price, and I am not just talking about money here, was just too great for the Williams to swallow.
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How embarrassing would it be if there are no substitutions before the season is out and Sergey ends up as the sole non-scorer as well as Williams finishing last?
Well, it may have taken Romain Grosjean getting disqualified to get there but Sergey's done it, he's scored a POINT!
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Certainly he’s been close a few times, but now he’s done it
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Have Williams turned a corner? Good improvement from them this weekend.
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No they haven't. They've no downforce and a massive motor at a circuit that needs big horsepower and no downforce.

All they've done is reinforced what most people have presumed all year - that engine is flattering a car that most definitely WON'T turn a corner.

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Singapore will bring them back to where they belong.

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