[WEC] LMP Future Regulations (was Le Mans EVO rules - now hypercar rules)

[deggis]

Here is Google translation, quite gibberish:

http://translate.google.com/translat...-8&sl=ja&tl=en

Any other (English) sources for this yet?

[AU N EGL]

more like hope to be racing by 2010 in a hybrid powered vehicle.

[Japanese Samurai]

-Translation-

Toyota : to the Le Mans participation by the hybrid car … The test run beginning.

It turned out that Toyota aimed at participation in "24 Heures du Mans" in the hybrid car, and they had begun the test run with the machine for actual Le Mans.
The person related to Toyota clarified it.
They want to participate aiming at the victory in 2010.
The development of the machine for Le Mans was advanced on the scale of tens of people, and a hybrid device was built into a pure racing car made of the other companies to participate in Le Mans until last year(Dome S101.5?) and the test run was begun now.
Head Toyota commented that there was a big charm in the appeal for the excellence of the hybrid though it had not been becoming a participation decision because it was a stage where realizability was verified now.

[Japanese Samurai]

Note
This test car is a tentative machine.

[deggis]

Thread bump. ACO press announcement should be on Saturday.

Or actually "The broad technical lines of the 2011 rules will be communicated around 15th November 2008". Maybe already tomorrow.

[JAG]

And the GT future?

[deggis]

At least FIA WMSC meetings are usually in early December, so I doubt there is anything final to say.

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by JAG

And the GT future?

Same time.

[deggis]

Umm... I wonder is the announcement supposed be today after all. Nothing so far. Then again if only thing they're going to do is to upload 2009 regulations PDF file to lemans.org...

[JAG]

http://www.lemans.org/sport/sport/reglements/index.html

Should show up here.

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by JAG

http://www.lemans.org/sport/sport/reglements/index.html

Should show up here.

Nothing yet
http://www.lemans.org/sport/sport/pa...m_actu_gb.html

[deggis]

Still nothing there, but award gala was yesterday:

EI / translation

If the translation is correct, 2011 regs will be published next or coming week(s).

[deggis]

from mulsannescorner, IMSA re-thinking rear wing rule change.
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newsnov08.html

Awesome...

[CTD]

ALMS has to follow up on the ACO rules, otherwise will end up with 2 different sports car classes!, and that wouldn't be good for the Sportscar world!

[AU N EGL]

IMSA ( ALMS ) and ACO rules are slightly different. Most of the rules are 'IN THE SPIRIT OF' the ACO rules.

[broadrun96]

But modifying larger things like wings would, I'm sure, lead to the ACO removing any automatic invites from PLM or championship for cars that run with the "IMSA-rules" rear wing. They already did that for the IMSA modified rules for the LMP2 cars last season, so would IMSA risk the automatic invites to run the wider wing? I'm thinking something like that is doubtful, especially if Audi will run in the ALMS. No point in running all season with the old wing if you will have to switch to a narrower one for LM and that seems to be their bigger desire every year.

[Bob Riebe]

I have a suspicion that right now, the IMSA will do anything it takes to get cars on the grid, and a certain race in France does not mean much.

[deggis]

2011 engine regs:

http://www.lemans.org/sport/sport/ac...D_3610_gb.html

http://www.lemans.org/sport/sport/re...hybride_gb.pdf

Goodbye (NA) variety then.

ps. That PDF actually says "3-4 litre" but it's obviously a mistake and supposed to say "3.4-litre"?

[HORNDAWG]

I'll grant there will be a few variances, but on the whole, the ACO and IMSA/ALMS rules will look the same.


L.P.

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by deggis

2011 engine regs:

http://www.lemans.org/sport/sport/ac...D_3610_gb.html

http://www.lemans.org/sport/sport/re...hybride_gb.pdf

Goodbye (NA) variety then.

ps. That PDF actually says "3-4 litre" but it's obviously a mistake and supposed to say "3.4-litre"?

I do not know if I would state it is an obvious mistake, probable yes, but it could mean a 3L to 4L V8. If you look at the current P-1 n/a it says 6.0L (pg-10 in LMP rules) but in the restrictor table (page 24) it lists many different engine sizes.



L.P.

[AU N EGL]

May be the Base performance goal would be from the 3.4-Liter NA and the restrictor table (page 24) is to adjust up or down on performance to the Base 3.4-Liter ??

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

May be the Base performance goal would be from the 3.4-Liter NA and the restrictor table (page 24) is to adjust up or down on performance to the Base 3.4-Liter ??

Huh??

L.P.

[Dario911]

I'm totally disapponted for the new rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMP1 with only 520 hp?! Is this a fake? Are we going to lose our time? It's a real disaster! I will never love this sport, with this stupid rules!
How many hp will the Kers give to the LMPs?!

[Dani Filth]

if they're 520HP like the 503 ones of the RS Spyder .. we're good i think

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by Dario911

How many hp will the Kers give to the LMPs?!

None. TOTAL of 520 hp

"Hybrid systems aimed at reducing fuel consumption (free development in compliance with precise rules). " not increasing HP.

Now that 520 hp, is that 520 BHP or Rear Wheel Horse Power ??

Which dyno system will be used to measure? Will the ACO use the SAE standards to measure HP, which I hope they do.