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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:40 (Ref:4160818)   #276
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I'm betting on Kamui getting pole
He's quick but not 1.9s faster quick
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:40 (Ref:4160819)   #277
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:43 (Ref:4160820)   #278
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:44 (Ref:4160822)   #279
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This was amazing from Ferrari. I just hope the pace of all cars is genuine because I think the race could be great.
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:44 (Ref:4160823)   #280
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Wow Nasr had one flying lap and got to 5th! Makes you wonder if they had actually participated in the session what they could have done.
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:45 (Ref:4160825)   #281
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This was amazing from Ferrari. I just hope the pace of all cars is genuine because I think the race could be great.
The pace is clearly there, it's a case of whether it holds over the hours, and if the pit crew are up to the job.
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:46 (Ref:4160826)   #282
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I seriously don't get Penske's strategy for this. #75 did one (!) pushlap in the entire hyperpole session, while #5 didn't even bother leaving the pits after red flag. What!?
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:46 (Ref:4160827)   #283
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I wonder how annoyed Toyota are about those BOP changes now?
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:48 (Ref:4160828)   #284
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They need a good level of competition. As long as they win, what the F this Bop?
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Feel so bad for Caddy, they would have been 3rd on the grid if they didn't catch on fire!
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:49 (Ref:4160830)   #286
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I seriously don't get Penske's strategy for this. #75 did one (!) pushlap in the entire hyperpole session, while #5 didn't even bother leaving the pits after red flag. What!?
I'm with you, this session is for fun and pride, and they chose not to fully embrace. Sure it doesn't matter much for them starting on row 3 or 4, but still, just go for it!
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:51 (Ref:4160832)   #288
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I wonder how annoyed Toyota are about those BOP changes now?

It really is baffling how Ferrari, who demonstrated faster single lap pace than Toyota from the beginning of the season did not get hit as hard with the adjustment, but alas here we are. The FIA/ACO have their race, and give 0 ***** about screwing over Toyota. All we can do now is see who LeMans sees fit over the course of 24hrs to give the prize.
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:53 (Ref:4160834)   #289
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Sure it doesn't matter much for them starting on row 3 or 4, but still, just go for it!
They will start on row 2 with Toyota
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:54 (Ref:4160836)   #290
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Well Ferrari take pole and lock out the front row. I can't see anyone other than Toyota winning tho. But we will see.
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:56 (Ref:4160837)   #291
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I think I saw from Adams charts that Toyota have the best race pace.
Ferrari will likely find the need to do some strategic foot shooting over the space of 24 hours.

First outright pole for 50 years for Ferrari at Le Mans though.
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:56 (Ref:4160838)   #292
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I wonder what could have caused the fire; loose connection on a line somewhere in the engine bay?
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 18:59 (Ref:4160840)   #293
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But on the long run I expect Toyota being the front runner.
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 19:02 (Ref:4160842)   #294
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Seem to be making a lot of fuss. It's only pole guys. I mean well done and a that but.you know.
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They will start on row 2 with Toyota
haha, Yes of course you are correct. I guess I was thinking they weren't taking it seriously and thought they had no shot to be that high.

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I think I saw from Adams charts that Toyota have the best race pace.
Ferrari will likely find the need to do some strategic foot shooting over the space of 24 hours.

First outright pole for 50 years for Ferrari at Le Mans though.
I wonder how well the Ferrari will work in the wet? Yes it was cold and damp at Spa, but they sure struggled. Will the tire warmers solve all their problems?

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I wonder what could have caused the fire; loose connection on a line somewhere in the engine bay?
Did I hear the announcers say there was a known fuel cell issue earlier in the running?
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haha, Yes of course you are correct. I guess I was thinking they weren't taking it seriously and thought they had no shot to be that high.
It's funny that they maximized their potential with just 1 fast lap. After all we all agree Ferrari were out of reach of their competition, don't we?

Also if I'm correct, the only place where Nasr didn't lose time to pole lap was sector three. Seems these Feraris are absolute monsters on the straights, which is something we saw at Spa already.

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I wonder how well the Ferrari will work in the wet? Yes it was cold and damp at Spa, but they sure struggled. Will the tire warmers solve all their problems?
Warmers dont help that much the wet tires. In case of rain or showers I think the Porsches will be in troubles specially in the straight.
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Old 8 Jun 2023, 19:41 (Ref:4160850)   #298
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Glad Ferrari got pole, i am rooting for them but i still think Toyota will start as favorites, i do believe we will have a competitive race between different teams at the front for the first time in a few years.
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The FIA/ACO have their race, and give 0 ***** about screwing over Toyota.
I think that Toyota need and deserve more than beating an LMP2. They need a high level of competition to show how good they are. And I very luch doubt that any instance will take any decision before an agreement with some relevant stakeholders. Behing a thick curtain…
All this is big money, big business in a great show guise. Remember the "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday"?Still relevant…
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I think that Toyota need and deserve more than beating an LMP2. They need a high level of competition to show how good they are. And I very luch doubt that any instance will take any decision before an agreement with some relevant stakeholders. Behing a thick curtain…
All this is big money, big business in a great show guise. Remember the "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday"?Still relevant…

Absolutely concur that they want/need/deserve competition, but why should the competition be given a "free" leg up?
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