Future Grands Prix?

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by Tourer

It's been harder here in Oz since F1 went later and later on the start times - used to be an 11:00 PM or thereabouts start and we'd crawl into the cot around 1:00 AM and be good for work, if a bit bleary-eyed on Monday morning. The first two races of the season started at 2:00AM Monday morning here - clearly this weekend is a completely different experience!

We get it - we're a small market on the other side of the planet from most of the races. Interestingly, for quite some time in the 80s, the F1 telecasts were the strongest for male demographic viewers across any time of the week believe it or not (in the years after AJ won his World Championship).

Agree that the you can't cater for the whole world and we're OK - with the GPs on Foxtel and its streaming setup Kayo, we can get up early, watch the race "as live" but delayed by a few hours - before we see any results. Seems to work.

For me here in the UK it's no help that the race highlights are broadcast either prime time or early on Sunday evening as I couldn't expect my family to give use of the TV to watch the programme anyway! (Even if they did, they would talk over it so I wouldn't be able to concentrate of what was happening!). I prefer to record the programme and get up 1 - 1½ hours earlier and watch it all on my own on a Monday morning!

[NaBUru38]

Last year, ABC aired Oklahoma vs Oklahoma State on Thanksgiving Saturday at 7:30pm Eastern. It averaged 6.5 million viewers. That would be a nice lead-in.


In 2020, ABC aired Utah at Washington at the same date and time, averaging 2.0 million viewers. That would be a bad lead-in.

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

For me here in the UK it's no help that the race highlights are broadcast either prime time or early on Sunday evening as I couldn't expect my family to give use of the TV to watch the programme anyway! (Even if they did, they would talk over it so I wouldn't be able to concentrate of what was happening!). I prefer to record the programme and get up 1 - 1½ hours earlier and watch it all on my own on a Monday morning!

It's ok, this weekend Oz GP's highlights will be on in the afternoon

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by S griffin

It's ok, this weekend Oz GP's highlights will be on in the afternoon

Sadly that still will not be any help for me. Unless I'm given a very small list this weekend, I will still be busy on Sunday afternoon doing my chores...

[Casper]

"We believe that Formula 1 simply belongs in the United States," Domenicali is quoted by European media outlet Sky Deutschland. "We want to make the American market the most important one in the sport."

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/form...oming-changes/

An idea that might upset some fans.

[Derwent]

No No No !
Europe is the home of F1. The USA have enough series of their own.
There are already too many GPs. The thought of 30 will create boredom and TV audiences will fall.
We need to drop the Arab countries and others where human rights are ignored.
We do need and event in Africa though.

[Casper]

As I have pointed out before, Liberty bought F1 for one reason, the media rights income and nothing else and the biggest single untapped market is the US and I suppose to kick start interest in the US domestic F1 races will increase. Has the penny dropped yet for everyone?

[Born Racer]

Merging this new thread with the existing one about future Grands Prix.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Derwent

No No No !
Europe is the home of F1. The USA have enough series of their own.
There are already too many GPs. The thought of 30 will create boredom and TV audiences will fall.
We need to drop the Arab countries and others where human rights are ignored.
We do need and event in Africa though.

I agree with you except for the need for an event in Africa. Apart from the now defunct SA GP, has any other African country shown an interest in developing motorsport, let alone hosting an F1 GP? With regard to human rights, some of those African countries have very dubious records.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I agree with you except for the need for an event in Africa. Apart from the now defunct SA GP, has any other African country shown an interest in developing motorsport, let alone hosting an F1 GP? With regard to human rights, some of those African countries have very dubious records.

If we are using Human Rights violations as the criteria for selecting race venues - some European races would be in question too.
In 2020:

Bahrain - Bahrain continued to deny access to independent rights monitors and the UN special procedures, including the special rapporteur on torture.

Saudi Arabia - Through 2020, the Saudi-led coalition continued a military campaign against the Houthi rebel group in Yemen that has included scores of unlawful airstrikes that have killed and wounded thousands of civilians.

Australia - Australia exports military equipment to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, despite grave concerns about alleged war crimes by the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen. Indigenous Australians are significantly over-represented in the criminal justice system, with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people comprising 29 percent of Australia’s adult prison population, but just 3 percent of the national population.

Italy - Hate crimes remained a serious problem. Women faced obstacles to exercising reproductive rights and an increase in violence during lockdown. In its October rule of law report, the European Commission flagged concerns about efficiency of justice, political independence of media, and smear campaigns against some civil society groups, particularly those working on migration.

United States - In its foreign policy, the United States worked on several fronts to undermine multilateral institutions, including through the use of sanctions to attack the International Criminal Court. It flouted international human rights law as it partnered with abusive governments—though it did sanction a number of individuals and governments for committing human rights abuses.

Spain - Violence against women rose during a nationwide lockdown imposed to manage the pandemic. Conditions in reception facilities for migrants and in informal settlements housing migrant agricultural workers were unsanitary. Prosecutions continued of pro-independence Catalan actors. Courts limited musicians’ freedom of expression using overbroad criminal charges of glorifying terrorism and insulting the monarchy

Azerbaijan - In five individual cases in 2020, the European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) found that from 2014 to 2016, Azerbaijani authorities had wrongfully imprisoned government critics in retaliation for their activism.
Restrictive laws continue to prevent nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) from operating independently. Reports of torture and ill-treatment persisted throughout the year.

Canada - Serious and longstanding challenges remain. Many of these relate to the rights of Indigenous peoples, including violations of their right to safe drinking water, violence against Indigenous women and girls, and violations of the right to food in these communities as a result of failures to mitigate the impact of climate change.

United Kingdom - Black and Asian people were disproportionately impacted by Covid-19, while growing numbers depended on food banks to get by. Survivors of the Grenfell Tower fire and Black British citizens from the Windrush generation harmed by UK immigration policy awaited justice. The UK took positive steps to strengthen international human rights protection, and showed leadership on Belarus and Hong Kong, yet with no clear strategy on human rights in foreign policy equivocated in the face of abuses by Saudi Arabia and other states.

France - Discriminatory police identity checks targeting minority youth continued. Child protection authorities often failed to provide unaccompanied migrant children appropriate care and services. Migrants and asylum seekers faced inhuman and degrading living conditions, as well as police abuse and harassment. Instances of harassment and attacks remained high against minorities, including ethnic, religious, national, and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) minorities.

Hungary - The government made access to asylum close to impossible, interfered with independent media and academia, launched an assault
on members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) community, and undermined women’s rights. Hungary’s Roma minority continue to face widespread and systemic discrimination.

Singapore - The government continued to use harsh and overly broad laws restricting speech and assembly to prosecute critical speech, or to label it as “fake news,” and order social media platforms to block content. The city-state’s initial success in controlling the spread of Covid19 was undermined by a failure to ensure that migrant workers could adequately protect themselves from the disease, leading to a surge in cases among migrants living in cramped workers’ dormitories.

Japan - Japan has no law prohibiting racial, ethnic, or religious discrimination, or discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Japan does not have a national human rights institution.

Mexico - Human rights violations—including torture, enforced disappearances, abuses against migrants, extrajudicial killings, and attacks on independent journalists and human rights defenders—have continued under President Andrés Manuel López Obrador, who took office in December 2018. Impunity remains the norm. Reforms enacted in 2017 and 2018 have been slow and until now ineffective in addressing torture and impunity.

Brazil - President Bolsonaro accused Indigenous people and nongovernmental organizations (NGOs), without any proof, of being responsible for the destruction of the rainforest. He also harassed journalists. In 2019, police killed 6,357 people, one of the highest rates of police killings in the world. Almost 80 percent of victims were Black. Police killings rose 6 percent in the first half of 2020.

United Arab Emirates - Prisons across the UAE held detainees in dismal and unhygienic conditions, where overcrowding and lack of adequate medical care is widespread. With the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic, detainees and prison staff were at heightened risk of contracting the virus.
In Libya, the UAE provided weapons and conducted air and drone strikes to support the Libyan Arab Armed Forces (LAAF) armed group, some of which killed and wounded civilians. In Yemen, UAE-backed Yemeni troops and armed groups committed abuses.



Which Human Rights violations should we ignore to decide where F1 races?

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

If we are using Human Rights violations as the criteria for selecting race venues - some European races would be in question too.
In 2020:

Bahrain - Bahrain continued to deny access to independent rights monitors and the UN special procedures, including the special rapporteur on torture.

Saudi Arabia - Through 2020, the Saudi-led coalition continued a military campaign against the Houthi rebel group in Yemen that has included scores of unlawful airstrikes that have killed and wounded thousands of civilians.

Australia - Australia exports military equipment to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, despite grave concerns about alleged war crimes by the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen. Indigenous Australians are significantly over-represented in the criminal justice system, with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people comprising 29 percent of Australia’s adult prison population, but just 3 percent of the national population.

Italy - Hate crimes remained a serious problem. Women faced obstacles to exercising reproductive rights and an increase in violence during lockdown. In its October rule of law report, the European Commission flagged concerns about efficiency of justice, political independence of media, and smear campaigns against some civil society groups, particularly those working on migration.

United States - In its foreign policy, the United States worked on several fronts to undermine multilateral institutions, including through the use of sanctions to attack the International Criminal Court. It flouted international human rights law as it partnered with abusive governments—though it did sanction a number of individuals and governments for committing human rights abuses.

Spain - Violence against women rose during a nationwide lockdown imposed to manage the pandemic. Conditions in reception facilities for migrants and in informal settlements housing migrant agricultural workers were unsanitary. Prosecutions continued of pro-independence Catalan actors. Courts limited musicians’ freedom of expression using overbroad criminal charges of glorifying terrorism and insulting the monarchy

Azerbaijan - In five individual cases in 2020, the European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) found that from 2014 to 2016, Azerbaijani authorities had wrongfully imprisoned government critics in retaliation for their activism.
Restrictive laws continue to prevent nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) from operating independently. Reports of torture and ill-treatment persisted throughout the year.

Canada - Serious and longstanding challenges remain. Many of these relate to the rights of Indigenous peoples, including violations of their right to safe drinking water, violence against Indigenous women and girls, and violations of the right to food in these communities as a result of failures to mitigate the impact of climate change.

United Kingdom - Black and Asian people were disproportionately impacted by Covid-19, while growing numbers depended on food banks to get by. Survivors of the Grenfell Tower fire and Black British citizens from the Windrush generation harmed by UK immigration policy awaited justice. The UK took positive steps to strengthen international human rights protection, and showed leadership on Belarus and Hong Kong, yet with no clear strategy on human rights in foreign policy equivocated in the face of abuses by Saudi Arabia and other states.

France - Discriminatory police identity checks targeting minority youth continued. Child protection authorities often failed to provide unaccompanied migrant children appropriate care and services. Migrants and asylum seekers faced inhuman and degrading living conditions, as well as police abuse and harassment. Instances of harassment and attacks remained high against minorities, including ethnic, religious, national, and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) minorities.

Hungary - The government made access to asylum close to impossible, interfered with independent media and academia, launched an assault
on members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) community, and undermined women’s rights. Hungary’s Roma minority continue to face widespread and systemic discrimination.

Singapore - The government continued to use harsh and overly broad laws restricting speech and assembly to prosecute critical speech, or to label it as “fake news,” and order social media platforms to block content. The city-state’s initial success in controlling the spread of Covid19 was undermined by a failure to ensure that migrant workers could adequately protect themselves from the disease, leading to a surge in cases among migrants living in cramped workers’ dormitories.

Japan - Japan has no law prohibiting racial, ethnic, or religious discrimination, or discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Japan does not have a national human rights institution.

Mexico - Human rights violations—including torture, enforced disappearances, abuses against migrants, extrajudicial killings, and attacks on independent journalists and human rights defenders—have continued under President Andrés Manuel López Obrador, who took office in December 2018. Impunity remains the norm. Reforms enacted in 2017 and 2018 have been slow and until now ineffective in addressing torture and impunity.

Brazil - President Bolsonaro accused Indigenous people and nongovernmental organizations (NGOs), without any proof, of being responsible for the destruction of the rainforest. He also harassed journalists. In 2019, police killed 6,357 people, one of the highest rates of police killings in the world. Almost 80 percent of victims were Black. Police killings rose 6 percent in the first half of 2020.

United Arab Emirates - Prisons across the UAE held detainees in dismal and unhygienic conditions, where overcrowding and lack of adequate medical care is widespread. With the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic, detainees and prison staff were at heightened risk of contracting the virus.
In Libya, the UAE provided weapons and conducted air and drone strikes to support the Libyan Arab Armed Forces (LAAF) armed group, some of which killed and wounded civilians. In Yemen, UAE-backed Yemeni troops and armed groups committed abuses.



Which Human Rights violations should we ignore to decide where F1 races?

You say: ''If we are using Human Rights violations as the criteria for selecting race venues - some European races would be in question too.'', then go on to list Human Rights violations globally. Interestingly, you left Russia of your list and China.


Apart from the Human Rights issues I was interested in why Derwent thought there was a need for a GP in Africa?

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

You say: ''If we are using Human Rights violations as the criteria for selecting race venues - some European races would be in question too.'', then go on to list Human Rights violations globally. Interestingly, you left Russia of your list and China.

Two reasons:

My point was that Human Rights violations are a global problem, not just restricted to Arab states.

I was looking at those races on the calendar this season - which doesn't feature Russia or China.

Going back to the previous post - the comment was made that 'We need to drop the Arab countries and others where human rights are ignored.' If we followed that through, that means dropping most places where F1 currently races (including European races).

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Two reasons:

My point was that Human Rights violations are a global problem, not just restricted to Arab states.

I was looking at those races on the calendar this season - which doesn't feature Russia or China.

Going back to the previous post - the comment was made that 'We need to drop the Arab countries and others where human rights are ignored.' If we followed that through, that means dropping most places where F1 currently races (including European races).

The comment ''We need to drop the Arab countries and others where human rights are ignored.'', was followed by ''We do need and event in Africa though.''. Which is why I said: ''With regard to human rights, some of those African countries have very dubious records.''

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

The comment ''We need to drop the Arab countries and others where human rights are ignored.'', was followed by ''We do need and event in Africa though.''. Which is why I said: ''With regard to human rights, some of those African countries have very dubious records.''

Agreed - it is a global problem, not restricted to one or a few continents.

Now if the requirement for an African GP is removed from the Human Rights considerations - I agree that it would help the 'globalisation' of a sport.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Agreed - it is a global problem, not restricted to one or a few continents.

Now if the requirement for an African GP is removed from the Human Rights considerations - I agree that it would help the 'globalisation' of a sport.

That brings it back to my initial question which was, apart from the now defunct SA GP, has any other African country shown an interest in developing motorsport, let alone hosting an F1 GP?

[NaBUru38]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

If we are using Human Rights violations as the criteria for selecting race venues - some European races would be in question too.
In 2020:

Italy - Hate crimes remained a serious problem. Women faced an increase in violence during lockdown.

Spain - Violence against women rose during a nationwide lockdown imposed to manage the pandemic.

Canada - violence against Indigenous women and girls

United Kingdom - Black and Asian people were disproportionately impacted by Covid-19, while growing numbers depended on food banks to get by.

France - Instances of harassment and attacks remained high against minorities, including ethnic, religious, national, and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) minorities.

Which Human Rights violations should we ignore to decide where F1 races?

Those human rights issues are caused by private citizens, not the government.


In China, Russia and the Middle East, gays are prosecuted for that very reason. That's not the case in Canada or Western Europe.

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by Derwent

No No No !
Europe is the home of F1. The USA have enough series of their own.

I know it's your opinion, but what a ridiculous statement. What are you missing with the concept of a "World Championship"

Originally Posted by Casper

As I have pointed out before, Liberty bought F1 for one reason, the media rights income and nothing else and the biggest single untapped market is the US and I suppose to kick start interest in the US domestic F1 races will increase. Has the penny dropped yet for everyone?

You didn't have to point it out, Liberty did back when this was announced in 2016. As to the growth in the US market, that again should not require any magic balls and probably is not mentioned as it's obvious. As with most businesses, they are growth oriented. So look for the large markets that don't have significant penetration. You see most everything except for Europe. Who has money to spend? Probably US and Asia. Then factor in which of those markets have a strong motorsports culture and the US pops to the top. And that doesn't mean that US is the ONLY focus. It's just the easiest right now.

Richard

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by Richard Casto

I know it's your opinion, but what a ridiculous statement. What are you missing with the concept of a "World Championship"

LOL - given that USA has the odd national championship or three that insists on referring to the winners as "world champions", I'm not convinced that enough people in the US "get" what a "World Championship" actually is.

Oh & three races in the US makes complete sense to me. Population of a similar size to the EU, rich motorsport heritage, long history of hosting Grands Prix - those factors at least give kudos to the idea.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Richard Casto

I know it's your opinion, but what a ridiculous statement. What are you missing with the concept of a "World Championship" Richard

He didn't say it wasn't a World Championship, he said Europe is the home of F1 and he is correct.

Europe is where F1 started, where the majority of races have always been and because of that this where the majority of drivers and teams have come from and still do.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

He didn't say it wasn't a World Championship, he said Europe is the home of F1 and he is correct.

Europe is where F1 started, where the majority of races have always been and because of that this where the majority of drivers and teams have come from and still do.

I think it's the second part of the statement that is the issue though. 'The USA have enough series of their own.'

This can be interpreted as saying that the USA should not have more races because F1 is European (as opposed to being centred around Europe).

It's true that the majority of drivers and teams have come from Europe - that is just history that can't be changed. But why shouldn't the future be different?
If I was looking at starting out in F1 today (as a driver or team), I would probably focus my efforts on a European basis. This gives the greatest economies due to the race calendar and pre-existing support arrangements. However, if we had as many races in America (continentally), then a base in (say) Texas would give me just as good connectivity to COTA, Miami, Las Vegas, Brazil, Mexico, Canada as a base in Italy gives me to European races.

Keeping the majority of races in Europe will keep the majority of participants based in Europe. Spread the races more and you might see the entry list vary in future. The statement seemed a bit ethnocentric IMO.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

I think it's the second part of the statement that is the issue though. 'The USA have enough series of their own.'

This can be interpreted as saying that the USA should not have more races because F1 is European (as opposed to being centred around Europe).

It's true that the majority of drivers and teams have come from Europe - that is just history that can't be changed. But why shouldn't the future be different?
If I was looking at starting out in F1 today (as a driver or team), I would probably focus my efforts on a European basis. This gives the greatest economies due to the race calendar and pre-existing support arrangements. However, if we had as many races in America (continentally), then a base in (say) Texas would give me just as good connectivity to COTA, Miami, Las Vegas, Brazil, Mexico, Canada as a base in Italy gives me to European races.

Keeping the majority of races in Europe will keep the majority of participants based in Europe. Spread the races more and you might see the entry list vary in future. The statement seemed a bit ethnocentric IMO.

Agreed, historically Europe is where F1 started and that can't be changed. However, Europe is still where the majority of what makes F1 happen.

I don't see the statement as being a bit ethnocentric, more like being eurocentric and that's because F1 has always been and still is eurocentric.

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by Tourer

LOL - given that USA has the odd national championship or three that insists on referring to the winners as "world champions", I'm not convinced that enough people in the US "get" what a "World Championship" actually is.

Seriously. That is your argument against my comment. You are totally correct in that the US has any number of series that are "world championships" but are nearly (or are) 100% US centric. I guess that has cheapened the concept of a "World Championship" enough that F1 is no longer able to make that claim itself. US has ruined it everyone. Maybe Indycar can be the new top level open wheel "World Championship"

Originally Posted by Tourer

Oh & three races in the US makes complete sense to me. Population of a similar size to the EU, rich motorsport heritage, long history of hosting Grands Prix - those factors at least give kudos to the idea.

I was considering making the same point, but was afraid it would come off as some type of USA >= Europe attitude. But yes, given the size and population it makes perfect sense. Now, I do wonder if given the current level of interest if we can sustain three long term.

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

He didn't say it wasn't a World Championship, he said Europe is the home of F1 and he is correct.

Europe is where F1 started, where the majority of races have always been and because of that this where the majority of drivers and teams have come from and still do.

Fair enough. The specific part I quoted was ridiculous IMHO, but I guess my argument regarding a world championship should not preclude races held elsewhere was a poor response somehow?

But to your comment above. What is your or Derwent's point? Can I say "so what?" F1 should not retreat into Europe or try to be "Eurocentric". Instead it should it expand into areas of the world that are not well represented (US and elsewhere)? I honestly find the "F1 belongs only in Europe" arguments very snobbish and disrespectful to non-European fans. Your not making that argument, but the line of thinking is right on the edge of it (F1 "is" Eurocentric), and others have made that argument here in the past.

To be fair, I should have called out the parts of Derwent's post I can agree with.

Originally Posted by Derwent

There are already too many GPs.

I am not sure if there are too many, but I appreciate that we might be approach that point. I can imagine it's hard on the teams for sure.

Originally Posted by Derwent

We need to drop the Arab countries and others where human rights are ignored.

I tend to agree that there are too many in the middle east given the dearth of races elsewhere (without even getting into the human rights topic).

Originally Posted by Derwent

We do need and event in Africa though.

Agree. Plus South America.

Richard

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by Casper

Why? my point in posting the thread was not about GP's at all it was to point out that Liberty have an agenda and now we are starting to see it unfold. They are not interested in the racing at all just the sum result of the media time they can sell.

Well it needed your second post there to start hinting that you had an ulterior motive to posting. The first post and title indicated it was about more races in the US.

But as you want to set the record straight on Liberty for the rest of us stupid lot I’ll copy those posts to a new thread and put Liberty in the title.
Here is that thread: https://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157053

This thread people can talk about where new races could and should be. Obviously the could is influenced by Liberty and their emu.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

That brings it back to my initial question which was, apart from the now defunct SA GP, has any other African country shown an interest in developing motorsport, let alone hosting an F1 GP?

I don't recall reading a big demand from an African country (although it might be there, just media filtering means I am not seeing it).
But - Domenicali thinks it might happen:

"On top of America, on top of China, I think there is a potential also to be in Africa soon," Domenicali stated. "There is a lot of interest there. For sure that's another area that so far is missing in the geography of our calendar."

In terms of African countries that do have a notable motorsport interest (outside of Rallying), then Morocco seems the other most likely candidate having hosted WTCC, WTCR and Formula E races recently.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Richard Casto

But to your comment above. What is your or Derwent's point? Can I say "so what?" F1 should not retreat into Europe or try to be "Eurocentric". Instead it should it expand into areas of the world that are not well represented (US and elsewhere)? I honestly find the "F1 belongs only in Europe" arguments very snobbish and disrespectful to non-European fans. Your not making that argument, but the line of thinking is right on the edge of it (F1 "is" Eurocentric), and others have made that argument here in the past.
Richard

I don't subscribe to the ''F1 belongs only in Europe'' argument. Historically, Europe is where F1 started and today Europe is predominantly where F1 still takes place, but I don't see that as being snobbish, it is just a fact. Many of the race tracks outside of Europe are European designed.

As for F1 expanding into areas of the world that are not well represented, I'm all for that. For example take South America, it has a great motorsports legacy, with a huge fan base but it is grossly unrepresented, with only one GP. Argentina once had a GP; F1 should look to bringing that back and look to see where else in South America it could go.

However, I don't subscribe to the ''just because areas are unrepresented they should have a GP'' argument. Some of these areas, that were unrepresented and now host GPs, previously never had any form of motorsport worth talking about, or at all, and despite them hosting GPs, have never really developed any homegrown motorsport.

Therefore I would like to see F1 expand into areas that are unrepresented but also have some form of motosrports background, on which to build and develop.