Grp C/Grp A/V8SC 'Where are they now?' continued...

[rocketa9x]

Thanks A9X05.

[E36ST]

Originally Posted by David Towe

I think that's the car that Jervis Ward in Melbourne now owns. By the way, I've bought the sister car, the one that Brock drove in the ATCC and Crompton shared with Parsons at Bathurst. I don't pick it up till Bathurst and I can't wait to get it.

Isn't the one that Brock drove (in 88?) the one that Jim Richards raced (& won) in 87?

[racer69]

Originally Posted by E36ST

Isn't the one that Brock drove (in 88?) the one that Jim Richards raced (& won) in 87?

Somewhere in here (either in this thread, or a dedicated BMW M3 thread) the number of M3's built by JPS Team BMW is explained, it was something like 6 different cars built in 1987 by the team.

Either way Jim used at least 2 different cars to win the 1987 ATCC, and there were new cars for Bathurst & the AGP (which the team skipped), the Brock/Mobil team got the latest of the lot built.

[Rob Bailey]

Originally Posted by rocketa9x

Thanks A9X05.

Such a shame the Jane car was destroyed,to many of us it was Big Petes last great car.

[David Towe]

Originally Posted by E36ST

Isn't the one that Brock drove (in 88?) the one that Jim Richards raced (& won) in 87?

I spoke with Jim recently and he remembers driving my current car for the first time at Lakeside in 87 and a new car later in the year making 3 cars for the 87 ATCC. The car he drove at Calder and Symmons Plains in the first 2 rounds was sold to Crowe for the NZTCC (which he won). This is possibly the car Finnauer used in his limited races that year.
The car I have bought appears to be Brock's from the 88 ATCC and was shared with Jim in a round of the endurance championship that year. Jervis Ward owns the car that was Jim's from the 88 ATCC and is the Brock/Richards car from Bathurst 88.
% cars known to have been built by JPS, my current car, my new car, Jervis' car and the Jagamara-Nelson "Art Car", leaving just one to find, the Crowe/Tulloch Viacard car from Bathurst 87.
Can anyone tell me what the official BMW Art Cars book has to say about the Ken Done Art Car please?

[Rob Bailey]

Originally Posted by David Towe

I spoke with Jim recently and he remembers driving my current car for the first time at Lakeside in 87 and a new car later in the year making 3 cars for the 87 ATCC. The car he drove at Calder and Symmons Plains in the first 2 rounds was sold to Crowe for the NZTCC (which he won). This is possibly the car Finnauer used in his limited races that year.
The car I have bought appears to be Brock's from the 88 ATCC and was shared with Jim in a round of the endurance championship that year. Jervis Ward owns the car that was Jim's from the 88 ATCC and is the Brock/Richards car from Bathurst 88.
% cars known to have been built by JPS, my current car, my new car, Jervis' car and the Jagamara-Nelson "Art Car", leaving just one to find, the Crowe/Tulloch Viacard car from Bathurst 87.
Can anyone tell me what the official BMW Art Cars book has to say about the Ken Done Art Car please?

what about the history of the Stillwell car?

[brown dog]

Originally Posted by David Towe

I spoke with Jim recently and he remembers driving my current car for the first time at Lakeside in 87 and a new car later in the year making 3 cars for the 87 ATCC. The car he drove at Calder and Symmons Plains in the first 2 rounds was sold to Crowe for the NZTCC (which he won). This is possibly the car Finnauer used in his limited races that year.
The car I have bought appears to be Brock's from the 88 ATCC and was shared with Jim in a round of the endurance championship that year. Jervis Ward owns the car that was Jim's from the 88 ATCC and is the Brock/Richards car from Bathurst 88.
% cars known to have been built by JPS, my current car, my new car, Jervis' car and the Jagamara-Nelson "Art Car", leaving just one to find, the Crowe/Tulloch Viacard car from Bathurst 87.
Can anyone tell me what the official BMW Art Cars book has to say about the Ken Done Art Car please?

Hi David, the Ken Done Art Car was an Australian built car. (note Simmons wheels!) Looked like it had a cosmetic restoration prior to being painted (underneath wheelarchs and interior painted etc) Those unusual mirrors might give some clues too. I saw it a year or two ago when the art cars were touring NZ. Heres a couple of pics I took.


Conrad

[E36ST]

Originally Posted by David Towe

I spoke with Jim recently and he remembers driving my current car for the first time at Lakeside in 87 and a new car later in the year making 3 cars for the 87 ATCC. The car he drove at Calder and Symmons Plains in the first 2 rounds was sold to Crowe for the NZTCC (which he won). This is possibly the car Finnauer used in his limited races that year.
The car I have bought appears to be Brock's from the 88 ATCC and was shared with Jim in a round of the endurance championship that year. Jervis Ward owns the car that was Jim's from the 88 ATCC and is the Brock/Richards car from Bathurst 88.
% cars known to have been built by JPS, my current car, my new car, Jervis' car and the Jagamara-Nelson "Art Car", leaving just one to find, the Crowe/Tulloch Viacard car from Bathurst 87.
Can anyone tell me what the official BMW Art Cars book has to say about the Ken Done Art Car please?

Two JPS M3's! Now you're just showing off! Seriously though, well done & congratulations. I'm sure many of us on here will be very envious.

[brown dog]

Originally Posted by E36ST

Two JPS M3's! Now you're just showing off! Seriously though, well done & congratulations. I'm sure many of us on here will be very envious.

The art cars might be harder to get your hands on though, if my memory serves me correctly the insured value of the Art cars is over $1M per car!..... Amazing how much value you can add with a paintbrush and a few tins of Dulon!

[MattV]

David, what livery is your new car running? please say the Mobil 1 livery...

[David Towe]

Sorry Matt, it's in JPS for a while. I won't be running it until I've paid it off (should take about 15 years)

[Geewizz]

This little gem just appeared for sale, unsure where it's been hiding for so long....

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=266335540

[mildura1963]

I cannot believe how many BMW's race over here in NZ... a very interesting mix of cars of varying speed & race history...I think it is called BMW cup?

[Falcadore]

Originally Posted by Geewizz

This little gem just appeared for sale, unsure where it's been hiding for so long....

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=266335540

Patric Finauer? Take it from the blurb this is an early, converted 325i.

[anthony81901]

Should be Ludwig Finauer, the German JPS engineer who drove a 3rd car in a few Amscar rounds and the 2nd car in the enduros.

This car was the 325 (chassis 11013038) that Longhurst raced in 1986 before being sold to Bill Bryce at the end of the year, see log book on photo 17 of the ad.

This was quite a significant car as with the information gathered from this machine, Frank Gardner was able to help persuade BMW that the M3 would be a competitive Group A car at a time when some of the European teams were doubters.

[E36ST]

Wasn't the first JPS M3 built up from a 325 chassis & does anyone know which one that then became?

[racer69]

E36ST - Alot of M3 info in this thread here - http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...JPS+BMW&page=3


including about the 325i that was converted to an M3

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

"J for Janson"

"I" for Indian"

Could have a 2 car team of very similar spec cars for a reasonable price.

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by David Towe

I spoke with Jim recently and he remembers driving my current car for the first time at Lakeside in 87 and a new car later in the year making 3 cars for the 87 ATCC. The car he drove at Calder and Symmons Plains in the first 2 rounds was sold to Crowe for the NZTCC (which he won). This is possibly the car Finnauer used in his limited races that year.
The car I have bought appears to be Brock's from the 88 ATCC and was shared with Jim in a round of the endurance championship that year. Jervis Ward owns the car that was Jim's from the 88 ATCC and is the Brock/Richards car from Bathurst 88.
% cars known to have been built by JPS, my current car, my new car, Jervis' car and the Jagamara-Nelson "Art Car", leaving just one to find, the Crowe/Tulloch Viacard car from Bathurst 87.
Can anyone tell me what the official BMW Art Cars book has to say about the Ken Done Art Car please?

Can you conclude the Ken Done art car is the 5th car built by JPS / Frank Gardner?

[Bown]

On the Art Cars topic, I found this a little while ago. http://www.uniquecarcarriers.com.au/cars.php check out the car on the bottom left of the page! The M1 & E9 look rather nice too...

[anthony81901]

Notice in the pictures in post 3195 is a HDT VK & VL Commodore any idea on which cars these are? I am guessing these are either the David Bowden cars (even though I always thought the VL had always been #10 since its restoration) or the ex John Farrell cars from WA.

[rdmdog]

Originally Posted by anthony81901

Should be Ludwig Finauer, the German JPS engineer who drove a 3rd car in a few Amscar rounds and the 2nd car in the enduros.

I may be mistaken, but isn't or wasn't, Ludwig the engine builder for the JPS BMW team (among others since) from the NSW South Coast? Maybe retired to the South Coast?

No problem in believing he may have a German heritage, but I'm pretty sure he was part of the Gardner Aussie crew long term.

[William Dale Jr]

Actually, they are the ones from Peter Champion's Champions Brock Experience. If I understand things correctly from the "Commodores in Europe" thread, the #05 VL in the pictures went to Mike O'Brien for the 1988 BTCC.

[brown dog]

Originally Posted by rdmdog

I may be mistaken, but isn't or wasn't, Ludwig the engine builder for the JPS BMW team (among others since) from the NSW South Coast? Maybe retired to the South Coast?

No problem in believing he may have a German heritage, but I'm pretty sure he was part of the Gardner Aussie crew long term.

You are not thinking of "Wolfy" are you? Wolfgang Piel (spelling?) from memory.

BD

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by anthony81901

Notice in the pictures in post 3195 is a HDT VK & VL Commodore any idea on which cars these are? I am guessing these are either the David Bowden cars (even though I always thought the VL had always been #10 since its restoration) or the ex John Farrell cars from WA.

You can answer this Bown.