2020 Nascar Big 3

[fieldodreams79]

Pretty entertaining stuff, the little I've watched

[fieldodreams79]

Kyle cut tire and a penalty.

I hope they cut out the damn stages next year with double headers. It really kills any kind of flow in races....do heat races if you really want to break stuff up

[TheMightyM]

Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Kyle cut tire and a penalty.

I hope they cut out the damn stages next year with double headers. It really kills any kind of flow in races....do heat races if you really want to break stuff up

Especially on the road courses and rovals. It really makes the first half of the race unwatchable.

[fieldodreams79]

Originally Posted by TheMightyM

Especially on the road courses and rovals. It really makes the first half of the race unwatchable.

Especially on road courses!!

[broadrun96]

Yeah, no idea how they decided the breakdowns too. And then 2 laps between an unnecessary caution and then the stage. Really?

And now a yellow for the 13 being off track. He recovered himself. Just because you want to give teams a yellow to gamble at try 45 laps to the end?

[fieldodreams79]

PRN said rain is 30 mins away, with NASCAR dictating that it's the teams' call on tires. This will get good.

Caution again....

[broadrun96]

Effing Kyle

Good old Goodyears, all four blown off the rims

[broadrun96]

Great, here comes the yellow for "debris" again. It didn't cut tires on the guys who drive over it. We get it, Nascar wants to suck the Bush teat but eff em. They're trash humans. And they can't drive in the rain for nothing. Kyle only caught up in the dry, in the rain he was getting passed like I was in the car

[broadrun96]

Chase driving like he stole it

And how dumb does the Gibbs group look now. Didn't pit most of their cars and Chase pitted, tires and drive right past every one of them. When with the 95 missing the restart and pushing him back.

[broadrun96]

Nascar had the dumbest rules. You commit to pit lane and then they put the closed light on you're screwed and get a penalty. Utterly ridiculous

[broadrun96]

Chase wins 42% of the road courses he's entered in Cup. And wins again today. And knows how to do a real burnout. Not hitting the wall and burning but multiple circles and then a good 300 yard burnout.

And Kyle is eliminated. So it's a decent day overall.

[fieldodreams79]

Chase!! 4 in a row is amazing.

And yes. Chase wins. Kyle is out. All in all good stuff today!!

[broadrun96]

He's gotta win COTA and Sonoma to tie Jeffy, think he's definitely the far and away favorite for COTA. Sonoma is just a mess often so it can be anyone's race.

[TheMightyM]

Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Chase!! 4 in a row is amazing.

And yes. Chase wins. Kyle is out. All in all good stuff today!!

And the beauty is that Kyle kind of it did to himself — he needed to come in with everybody else on the caution with about 25 laps. Staying out with worn tires and not enough fuel to get to the end was just such an obvious loosing call.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by TheMightyM

And the beauty is that Kyle kind of it did to himself — he needed to come in with everybody else on the caution with about 25 laps. Staying out with worn tires and not enough fuel to get to the end was just such an obvious loosing call.

Dumb calls by whoever did the calling.

Plus idiotic driving last week at Dega - should have hung at the back in relative safety like Hamlin, not hang out with Joey!

Kyle is out of it because of stupid mostly I think.

Well that and the lack of laps to sort the car. Clearly Denny Hamlin can work around the car and Kyle can't. If normality isn't back next year (practice and qualy) then KFB will be a fish out of water again next year.

[rustyfan]

I took forever, but they finally got the race in at Texas.

Felt kind of old school, almost, to have a tense fuel race and I actually don't mind one bit that Kyle Busch managed to win to extend his streak.

[Alfisti]

Yeah. He needed that, been at sorts all year. And he beat Truex who is too whiney for my liking.

Is the race being delayed from Sunday to Wednesday a record? Longest delay I can remember at any rate!

[rustyfan]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Yeah. He needed that, been at sorts all year. And he beat Truex who is too whiney for my liking.

Is the race being delayed from Sunday to Wednesday a record? Longest delay I can remember at any rate!

The record is from way back in 1973, when a race at Bristol was interrupted by rain and wasn't finished until two weeks later. NASCAR even ran a completely different race in between the two Bristol parts

I do think, however, that the Texas race now holds the record for keeping the crews at the same track for the longest un-interrupted time due to a rain delay (don't quote me on that, though).

[broadrun96]

It’s kinda funny the team and crew chief have admitted Kyle needs the practice and can’t drive around problems. Oh wait, they said he’s so in tune with the car that practice time allows him to develop the best car possible. What i found really funny is none of the rest of his team has had a problem with the car so it’s not like the team has a problem with base setup.

[fieldodreams79]

IDK about all that but Kyle is a little biatch. So is his sister, Kurt.

[rustyfan]

Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

IDK about all that but Kyle is a little biatch. So is his sister, Kurt.

As for the race last night, I thought it was pretty good despite not having a lot of action towards the front and as much as I dislike the Chase system it provded quite a bit of drama involving Harvick, Keselowski and Hamlin.

Gotta feel for Harvick and that last lap tap on Busch seemed like a "AAAAAH, screw it all to hell!", hilarious stuff.

Now, Phoenix. I really, really don't want Logano to win, which obviously means he'll win the race (remember, he won there in the spring) and the title. Which sucks.

[S griffin]

NASCAR still has some excitement going, even if we are stuck with the dreaded chase and the stages. There was enough of it last night. At least we still have the quality of drivers in the championship

The battle between Harvick and Busch added a bit of excitement to the race and really is what the series needs

So it’s all down to Phoenix, but the series still needs to sort itself out. We need to go back to simplicity. No need for gimmicks like the chase. We’ve got enough star drivers to make the series great

[Alfisti]

If this (Kevin Harvick being knocked out) isn't the wake up call to NASCAR then stupid runs deep.

The Chase was, frankly, a bit rubbish. This elimination format sucks. The best team this year by far cannot now be champions.

For me the "regular season" title is the one wuth value, but nobody ever talks about that for more than a day or two before the playoff nonsense starts.

Hopefully Harvick is content to polish his race win trophies over the off season.

[NaBUru38]

Just an empty Cup

[PointDSM]

I believe what NASCAR is doing, is creating more "big races". On a local level, season championships are often over-shadowed by 2-3 big races per track during the year. By having the Chase(Playoffs), it creates a group of races that are incrementally more "important" or "exciting" than the otherwise normal race.


NASCAR could easily tweek the points by guaranteeing the regular season points champion makes the final race, having qualifying be the morning of the race (single-day events still) and give playoff points for pole position through 5th. Then give your "stage points" at 1/2 way, but removing the actual stage cautions. Nothing else, leave phased eliminations in the Chase, leave the single day events, no practice or may a "Happy Hour" the day of. The product is getting good, and the schedule next year (then in 2022 with new cars and more short tracks) will make it even better.