The Porsche vs Ferrari (or Badger vs brielga) thread - Page 13

The Badger · 6 Apr 2008, 14:22 (Ref:2171278)

Yeah ..... that color scheme is growing on me .

What happened to Modena ?

Dario911 · 6 Apr 2008, 14:29 (Ref:2171289)

Ferrari has won, but the Porsche was forced to leave for some troubles... And at the end Porsches were 2nd and 3rd. A good result for the challenge. The new RSR Evo is here, ready to win the challenge. I'am disapponted because the best Lizard's car and Risi's best car were forced to leave the race. Ando so, F430 Tafel has won. But Porsche will have his revenge. Is the better car in GT2 class, this year. And wil show its full potential. Go, Porsche, go Lizards!
Greatful Penske racing! RS Spyder is the better LMP2 all around the world!

The Badger · 6 Apr 2008, 14:47 (Ref:2171325)

Eh eh eh ..... calm down , calm down .

What Fiat 430 has won what ? There is still another hour left .....

Brielga has been suggesting that you are my partner in crime . Is that true ?

Oh , ALMS you ment .

The Badger · 6 Apr 2008, 14:48 (Ref:2171328)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dario911

Ando so, F430 Tafel has won

Well , im not disapointed about that . Im just glad Lizards beat Risi !!!

Nicola · 6 Apr 2008, 15:51 (Ref:2171412)

A victorious weekend for Ferrari

Victory in ALMS, victory in Formula1, victory in LMS... What else?

Forza Ferrari!

The Badger · 6 Apr 2008, 15:54 (Ref:2171415)

Oh yeah ..... now your jumping on the Fiat bandwagen Nicola ?

One thing I gotta say ..... top effort from Charouz . In such a short time in sportscars , they are showing up a few teams .

Night folks .....

Oh brielga ..... I cant wait for your hip shot !!!

Oh yeah ..... welcome to 10 10ths Nicola

The Badger · 6 Apr 2008, 15:54 (Ref:2171417)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicola

A victorious weekend for Ferrari

Victory in ALMS, victory in Formula1, victory in LMS... What else?

Forza Fiat !

Yes ..... Forza Fiat ...... yeah yeah yeah !!!

Dario911 · 6 Apr 2008, 16:02 (Ref:2171426)

Well, Ferrari has won in f1 today. But don't forget f1 has been designed around ferrari's requires! f1 is only a politic affair. is not a real sport cars competition. In ALMS Ferrari has won becaus... the lead Porsche has left the race. See you soon at the next race, fiat lovers!

Spyderman · 6 Apr 2008, 16:13 (Ref:2171432)

Guy's, Porsche have a lot of work to do on the 997RSR - EVO.
I know the car raced for the first time in the LMS, but it is still far off the racing pace of the F430.
I'm disappointed but not surprised.
We will see what development brings, but......

Also - Can anyone tell me who was the second drive of the Virgo Ferrari?

SebringMG · 6 Apr 2008, 16:33 (Ref:2171445)

Bruni - works ferrari driver i think!

Virgo are a damn good squad though! Certainly the equal of the Porsche teams i would say, Porsche will get better as they run the cars more!

brielga · 6 Apr 2008, 16:56 (Ref:2171463)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyderman

Guy's, Porsche have a lot of work to do on the 997RSR - EVO.
I know the car raced for the first time in the LMS, but it is still far off the racing pace of the F430.
I'm disappointed but not surprised.
We will see what development brings, but......

Also - Can anyone tell me who was the second drive of the Virgo Ferrari?

Mr. Lieb said it himself in the press conference, they were never on the pace and have a lot of work ahead of them....is that clear? And Virgo has done a great job with Dunlop. As I predicted DOUBLE WHAMMY, sweet red dreams tonight and I hope you realize you need to take a lower profile for the next weeks (months...?? years...??)

brielga · 6 Apr 2008, 16:57 (Ref:2171466)

and of course Nicola FORZA FIAT!!!

arakis · 6 Apr 2008, 17:16 (Ref:2171481)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dario911

Well, Ferrari has won in f1 today. But don't forget f1 has been designed around ferrari's requires! f1 is only a politic affair. is not a real sport cars competition. In ALMS Ferrari has won becaus... the lead Porsche has left the race. See you soon at the next race, fiat lovers!

Nope, ferrari won becouse it was faster trough the race both 62 risi and 71 tafel 430 pased the fastest poscha (45) on track.

and e 45 lyzard was 4 sec behind the ferrari when the incident happend.

Spyderman · 6 Apr 2008, 17:57 (Ref:2171514)

Are you sure?
I think the 45 Porsche was in the lead when it has it's accident.
Either way, It was not as fast as the Risi Ferrari.

arakis · 6 Apr 2008, 19:06 (Ref:2171573)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyderman

Are you sure?
I think the 45 Porsche was in the lead when it has it's accident.
Either way, It was not as fast as the Risi Ferrari.

here are the facts

At 2:55 pm (1h 30m running), Dirk Mueller (#71-GT2 Ferrari F430 GT) passes Jorg Bergmeister (#45-GT2 Porsche 911 GT3 RSR) for the class lead.

from http://www.imsaracing.net/2008/event...tes/page14.pdf

At 3:05 pm (1h 40m running), Patrick Long (#6-P2 Porsche RS Spyder) pinches Butch Leitzinger (#20-P2 Porsche RS Spyder) at turn 2, and the #20 car spins and stops in the middle of the track. As the car started to
move again, he was clipped by Jorg Bergmeister (#45-GT2 Porsche 911 GT3 RSR), taking the left rear corner off of the Prototype and causing front body damage to the GT2 Porsche, which continued on course, second in
class.

from http://www.imsaracing.net/2008/event...tes/page15.pdf

I love being technical

BTW, I watched the race on motors and the last update on the gt2 class before the accident said 1. 71 tafel 2. 45 lyzard ~2s. and that was 5 laps before the hit, when the accident hapens u can clearly see that the porsche is at least 4-5 sec away from the ferrari

oh yeah the best laps are like this

71: Mueller*/(Farnbacher) 1:12.737
62: Melo*/(Salo) 1:12.940
87: Werner*/(Basseng) 1:13.031
45: Bergmeister/(Henzler*) 1:13.077
46: van Overbeek*/(Pilet) 1:13.234

Spyderman · 6 Apr 2008, 19:46 (Ref:2171607)

OK thanks!
We'll see if Porsche are able to capitalize on their potential shown in qualifying.

arakis · 6 Apr 2008, 20:15 (Ref:2171623)

qulifinig is one thing, and the best place to capitalise on quali is on a street race, I think that the major problem with 997 is tire wear, they might even be faster on one lap but on long runs ferrari has the edge

kingkai · 6 Apr 2008, 21:04 (Ref:2171678)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

Yes ..... Forza Fiat ...... yeah yeah yeah !!!

We have to wait till 1000km of Spa and 24h of Spa, where Porsche annihilate the GT2 every time

dxk1 · 6 Apr 2008, 21:41 (Ref:2171718)

Just wait and see, the Tafel Ferrari will be the Ferrari to beat this year. Farnbacher is very capable and Muller is lights out. Just wait till they get to the more open courses!

DK

cmk · 6 Apr 2008, 22:00 (Ref:2171735)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkai

We have to wait till 1000km of Spa and 24h of Spa, where Porsche annihilate the GT2 every time

Does the year 2006 mean anything to you? Ferrari 430 1-2-3, best Porsche 5th. It's not a hard and fast rule...

The Badger · 7 Apr 2008, 11:33 (Ref:2172149)

Now its my turn to get worried about brielga !!!

He hasnt poked his generaly nasty Fiat attitude into this thread since yesterday ?

Hey brielga ..... you been boozing or what ?

You will smile at this but , I'll take my hat off for the 2 boys in the Virgo Fiat .....they had an answer for every move yesterday .

brielga · 7 Apr 2008, 11:59 (Ref:2172185)

we were working till late at the circuit and flew back this morning. However, my smile is still VERY wide....

The Badger · 7 Apr 2008, 12:12 (Ref:2172202)

A smile like a smacked arse ..... and no referance to Mosley either .

How did it go down there , bet you had a great time ?

Did you manage to get me Bell-Bruni autograph on a Virgo Fiat sticker ?

brielga · 7 Apr 2008, 13:29 (Ref:2172314)

Mosley? Who's that? Let's talk about real issues here. I am sorry to disappoint you, if you would have only asked before.... but I have a picture of the guys that I'm sure you will enjoy (and it's no pun, it's a funny picture). I'll give you a PM when I post it. And yes, it was gorgeous weather (except for Friday morning where it was cold) and a very very good race. Amazing how Audi's presence boosted the series, 28,000 people through the weekend....

brielga · 8 Apr 2008, 09:50 (Ref:2172997)

licking your wounds gentlemen??? well, new opportunities to get beaten at silverstone, what about that?????

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