2013 v8st

[Chappelli]

Originally Posted by Ugy

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the ST will always only be world famous in the north island of NZ (until they fold of course)

Why do you say that?

See, I’d suggest that thanks to the wide spread coverage of SVG’s drive next year the number of the South Islanders that have heard about the 2013 V8ST Season is a multiple of the number of South Islanders who’ve heard about the 2013 V8 Touring Car/Gold Star Championship in the last 7 days…..

Fact is, outside of a few grumpy old farts who don’t get this Tweetbook interweb thing, V8ST is probably already more “world famous in the South Island” than our other domestic V8 series…

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by Chappelli

See, I’d suggest that thanks to the wide spread coverage of SVG’s drive next year the number of the South Islanders that have heard about the 2013 V8ST Season is a multiple of the number of South Islanders who’ve heard about the 2013 V8 Touring Car/Gold Star Championship in the last 7 days…..

To take you back to school maths, if you wanted to work that out, the number of the South Islanders that have heard about the 2013 V8ST Season mulitplied by the number of South Islanders who’ve heard about the 2013 V8 Touring Car/Gold Star Championship

Lets say the number of people who watched the interview was 1000, and the number of South Islanders who’ve heard about the 2013 V8 Touring Car/Gold Star Championship is 0

1000 x 0 is still 0 and therefor not a multiple of 0

[NZSTfan]

Just to add to adbutlers link, here is the FULL interview with SVG.

http://www.3news.co.nz/FULL-INTERVIE...3/Default.aspx

Goes on for about 4 minutes.

Shauns voice is quite quiet, so may pay to have your volume up a bit. The microphone on SVG is much louder though

[flyingduck]

I would rather hear something new from the ST bashers, it's been over 12 months of but its got a chev engine in a Ford which is starting to get very very old.

[Evomike]

Originally Posted by smokin'joe

Mike, that aside, i was referring to constant claims, of debts , dodgyness
and dirty laundry that was acceptable to be aired regarding the national body and it's subsidery MPL/TMC, but it is not allowable when the same is said of and emerging class ???

like a lot of comments on these forums.
pefectly fine to slag off anyone who was hoping NZV8s were going to be a going class, but if anyone is to mention NZST in a negative light , they are quickly shut-down.

See Goat Boys Comments above. I for one was careful in comments I made, at the same time as the "slagging off" about MPL was occurring ST directors were being accused of acting illegally, to now claim that slagging of ST is fair because MPL etc were slagged off is a wee bit silly, Joe the debts are real and are a matter of public record, prior to the liquidation documents becoming available I speculated (with provisos) that the reason MSNZ was putting MPL into liquidation was because they must owe money to creditors and can't pay, that is now a matter of fact and not an unproved accusation. Do you have any evidence or indication that any statements made in the deleted thread are true (Other than Gossip)?
Sadly we will more than likely never know what actually happened in the failure of MPL.

I also suspect the moderators learned the last time round that the thread would descend into chaos should it be left up. They have warned that they won't put up with it anymore, maybe that is why

[Woolley]

Originally Posted by Evomike

They have warned that they won't put up with it anymore, maybe that is why

There were several reasons, but we don't discuss them, and I'm not prepared to leave up a discussion about what the thread contained and why it was deleted. That discussion is also off-topic anyway.

Curious that several people seem to know all about it, who and why. Not suggesting that anyone might possibly be colluding with each other, of course. I'm sure that wouldn't happen.

Back to the subject, if you would.

[raymond]

I actually thought it was on subject, regarding Supertourers in 2013.
Still; it's your right to act as censor I suppose.

[Evomike]

Originally Posted by raymond

I actually thought it was on subject, regarding Supertourers in 2013.
Still; it's your right to act as censor I suppose.

Nice to know what the vps thoughts are would seem you don't support the direction the sport is heading by supporting the posting of what I understand were serious allegations all the while supporting the suppression of information around mpl which it's known as a fact owes money and most likely will not pay its bills. This being the major reason for liquidation in the first place. Fairs fair Raymond. It's also not just about being on topic. You cant just post about anything on here. But it is very concerning that members of the executive support the posting of unfounded accusations at the same time as the same office holder attacks the wording of a media story because it could be perceived a bit different.

[raymond]

Originally Posted by Evomike

Nice to know what the vps thoughts are would seem you don't support the direction the sport is heading by supporting the posting of what I understand were serious allegations all the while supporting the suppression of information around mpl which it's known as a fact owes money and most likely will not pay its bills. This being the major reason for liquidation in the first place. Fairs fair Raymond. It's also not just about being on topic. You cant just post about anything on here. But it is very concerning that members of the executive support the posting of unfounded accusations at the same time as the same office holder attacks the wording of a media story because it could be perceived a bit different.

So...anything that is opinion or guesses shouldn't be on this forum??? That would remove a lot of content. Some of the points regarding MPL/TMC were incorrect, but gained a lot of traction just because people love talking about bad sh*t and giving the "tax dept" a hard time.
Are you sure that all those points that were listed are all just gossip?

As for the way forward with the V8 scenario in NZ and the various factions, your conjecture regarding my non-support of this direction cannot be further from the fact.
But hey, you werent to know that as many of the discussions I have had are intended to remain within the room and should not appear on social forums that are based on personal opinions.

[Evomike]

Originally Posted by raymond

So...anything that is opinion or guesses shouldn't be on this forum??? That would remove a lot of content. Some of the points regarding MPL/TMC were incorrect, but gained a lot of traction just because people love talking about bad sh*t and giving the "tax dept" a hard time.
Are you sure that all those points that were listed are all just gossip?

As for the way forward with the V8 scenario in NZ and the various factions, your conjecture regarding my non-support of this direction cannot be further from the fact.
But hey, you werent to know that as many of the discussions I have had are intended to remain within the room and should not appear on social forums that are based on personal opinions.

Hi Raymond as we have established via PM's I now know your thoughts, If I could edit my post above I would. I apologise if my post has offended you.

[nistfan]

So finally Shane VG is confirmed he's back in V8SC. He's in for a Pretty busy season.

Ford One week, Holden the next. 21 Race weekend between February and early December

[NZSTfan]

Yip nistfan, he's going to be a busy boy and collecting lots of 'race miles' (and air points come to think of it!) which will make him very useful in both series.

Go the Giz!

[nistfan]

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

Yip nistfan, he's going to be a busy boy and collecting lots of 'race miles' (and air points come to think of it!) which will make him very useful in both series.

Go the Giz!

Yes if he stays based in NZ , its 50 crossings of the Tasman up till December, with races and Test days etc.

Just that first weekend is looking pretty Busy, V8SC test at Eastern Creek then HD the next day

[Southern Man]

Have all the results following the Ruapuna hearing been updated yet? I am genuinely interested as they need to be accurate as they are part of the historical records of the sport.

[Swedish Brick]

Have they setteled on a fix for the engines and gearboxes yet? If so what was the problems?
Did they release the info? I might have missed it

[adbutler]

Originally Posted by Swedish Brick

Have they setteled on a fix for the engines and gearboxes yet? If so what was the problems?
Did they release the info? I might have missed it

both have been sorted and widely reported on speedcafe.co.nz etc.

[Swedish Brick]

Ok, so I missed it. Got links? Quite interested to know as it was pretty weird and appeared to be a major cock up really

[HProject]

Originally Posted by Swedish Brick

Ok, so I missed it. Got links? Quite interested to know as it was pretty weird and appeared to be a major cock up really

Here you go: http://www.speedcafe.co.nz/2013/01/1...o-engine-woes/

V8 SuperTourers have pin-pointed the issues which led to a series of failures with the control 7-litre V8 engine last season.

The category will go into its second season satisfied the problems with the LS7 Z06 V8 have been resolved.

General Motors have updated the pistons and conrods on its service engines. The Mosler powerplants are built at the car giant’s Performance Build Centre at Wixom, Michigan which began building engines back in 2005.
It has not been made known how or why the problems occurred or indeed if they happened in the assembly process.

“They (GM) obviously found a problem that they have solved and we are going to go along with what they found,” V8ST chief executive Didier Debae said.

“When a company like that spend a lot of money developing something you should take it for granted that they have done their homework.”
“Some people will continue with what they have got which is entirely their decision”

There is the option for teams to access the update but it is not known how many teams will take up this avenue considering the great majority of squads did not have any issues with their engines throughout 2012.

“I don’t know the exact number of who will take up the upgrade. There are some people who are buying new engine” Debae said.

“We are happy with the outcome but obviously you are always a chance of having an unexpected problem but most people won’t.”

[Swedish Brick]

Oh ok, I thought it was oiling issues.
And the gearbox? They had to redo the gearsets twice didn't they?

[adbutler]

Originally Posted by Swedish Brick

Oh ok, I thought it was oiling issues.

that was earlier in the season, also sorted. something to do with the sump from memory. i'm sure someone else on here can give you a more detailed answer.

[adbutler]

Originally Posted by Swedish Brick

And the gearbox? They had to redo the gearsets twice didn't they?

again, from memory, the gearbox couldn't handle the torque and quaife fixed the problem with parts made of higher grade steel.

[Swedish Brick]

Cheers for that. When it was happening there seemed to be a lot of confusion and secrecy.
Maybe in future they need a test driver who drives harder lol

[adbutler]

Originally Posted by Swedish Brick

Cheers for that. When it was happening there seemed to be a lot of confusion and secrecy.
Maybe in future they need a test driver who drives harder lol

this is from v8supertourers facebook page re the oil cooling issue:

SUCCESSFUL TEST OF NEW DAILEY DRY SUMP SYSTEM AT PUKEKOHE YESTERDAY.

Thanks to AV8 Motorsport, we were able to sign off the new Dailey dry sump system with a great deal of confidence, utilising Andy Booths Corporate ride day at Pukekohe yesterday.

Andy's passengers were treated to some very fast laps in the process. The very last passenger was treated to a blistering 58 second dead, hot lap, wh...en we increased the RPM soft cut back up to the original 6,800 RPM.

Both the oil and water temperature stayed stable at 104ºC and 79ºC respectively, we set the hot oil pressure at 60 PSI at maximum revs, and at 27 PSI at idle. The oil pressure trace was essential a flat line with a maximum deviation over two laps, of less than 5 PSI.

We also found out that the oil reservoir needed less oil due to the sheer volume of oil pouring back into the reservoir from the Dailey pumps twin Roots style scavenge rotors.

All in all a very successful track test for the new dry sump system, and again thanks to jacko and Andy for allowing us to use their race car as a test mule for the day.

[NZSTfan]

Originally Posted by Swedish Brick

Cheers for that. When it was happening there seemed to be a lot of confusion and secrecy.
Maybe in future they need a test driver who drives harder lol

Really?? i dont remember there being much secrecy around these issues at all. Your not stirring are you Brick?

It was all over speedcafe, FB, this forum and others, media releases etc

Maybe the confusion that you allude to is simply ST trying to get all facts straight before telling the public. Quite prudent wouldn't you think?

[Chappelli]

Originally Posted by Swedish Brick

Ok, so I missed it. Got links? Quite interested to know as it was pretty weird and appeared to be a major cock up really

http://www.speedcafe.co.nz/2013/01/1...o-engine-woes/