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Old 15 Jan 2016, 14:30 (Ref:3605070)   #301
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Any idea what FB page this is on? I MUST see how much this got dragged out.

Remember - in NASCARland race cars have decals not lights.

IMHO the lights ruined the race for me, at least Sebring and Atlanta are still dark.
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at least Sebring and Atlanta are still dark.
They are relatively dark, I mean you do certainly need headlights and the ambience is still there but the sparse floodlights brighten most of the areas visible. However both are still pitch black when compared to the laughable night-for-day WEC COTA and full F1-conditions WEC Bahrain, which might as well be in daylight.
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Old 15 Jan 2016, 15:16 (Ref:3605081)   #303
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They are relatively dark, I mean you do certainly need headlights and the ambience is still there but the sparse floodlights brighten most of the areas visible. However both are still pitch black when compared to the laughable night-for-day WEC COTA and full F1-conditions WEC Bahrain, which might as well be in daylight.
True - there's enough light at Sebring and Atlanta for the corner stations and safety crews but headlights are indeed needed, unlike Daytona, and you can see the glowing brakes, exhaust et cetera and the ambience as you say, is there. I get the lights for F1 and NASCAR but isn't a part of endurance racing managing relative darkness?
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Old 15 Jan 2016, 15:38 (Ref:3605089)   #304
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That's why I always thought LMS Portimao 1000km 2009/2010 and Hungaroring 1000km 2010 looked amazing in the dark, absolutely zero visibility outside start/finnish straight. Just like Nordschleife. That is how ACO should have kept it too
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Old 15 Jan 2016, 15:48 (Ref:3605091)   #305
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Remember - in NASCARland race cars have decals not lights.

IMHO the lights ruined the race for me, at least Sebring and Atlanta are still dark.
Leave that for those events then. Daytona is great track where you can see all the way around. Even at night you can follow a race around most of the circuit. That's what matters.
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Old 15 Jan 2016, 15:50 (Ref:3605092)   #306
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Question: Will the GTLM Michellin cars be able to run single stint tires for at least a portion of the race for the Daytona 24 (i.e. Qualifying, final hour)? I hope so. It makes them so much quicker.
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Old 15 Jan 2016, 16:08 (Ref:3605097)   #307
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Leave that for those events then. Daytona is great track where you can see all the way around. Even at night you can follow a race around most of the circuit. That's what matters.
You could before the lights too - maybe even better as the light pool from a car in the dark is much bigger than the car under floods and a group of cars together light each other.
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Old 15 Jan 2016, 16:35 (Ref:3605106)   #308
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Looks like Sabine is back in the Frikadelli car. Connor De Fillipi is out.
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Looks like Sabine is back in the Frikadelli car. Connor De Fillipi is out.
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Old 15 Jan 2016, 18:10 (Ref:3605135)   #310
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The first year they installed the musco lights at Daytona they ran them full on, but since then they turn on about 20% of the bulbs. And technically Daytona did have lights before then along the frontstretch grandstands and sporadically in the infield they had what were basically just street lights on poles.
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Old 15 Jan 2016, 18:10 (Ref:3605136)   #311
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Good for recognition of the race, if not the performance of the car.
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Good for recognition of the race, if not the performance of the car.
Make no mistakes - at least at the Ring she can hang with the best of them.
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Old 15 Jan 2016, 20:14 (Ref:3605178)   #314
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So this is the entry list that we ended up with (probably the best GTLM field that will race in the world this year). Is it too early to make picks?

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0 DeltaWing Racing Cars DeltaWing DWC13
2 Tequila Patrón ESM Ligier JS P2 HPD
5 Action Express Racing Coyote Corvette DP
10 Wayne Taylor Racing Dallara Corvette DP
31 Action Express Racing Coyote Corvette DP
37 SMP Racing BR Engineering BR01 Nissan
50 Highway to Help Riley BMW/Dinan DP
55 SpeedSource Lola B08/80 Mazda/AER
60 Michael Shank Racing Ligier JS P2 HPD
70 SpeedSource Lola B08/80 Mazda/AER
90 VisitFlorida.com Racing Coyote Corvette DP
01 Ford Chip Ganassi Racing Riley Ford DP
02 Ford Chip Ganassi Racing Riley Ford DP

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8 Starworks Motorsport Oreca FLM09
20 BAR1 Motorsports Oreca FLM09
26 BAR1 Motorsports Oreca FLM09
38 Performance Tech Oreca FLM09
52 PR1/Mathiasen Motorsports Oreca FLM09
54 CORE Autosport Oreca FLM09
85 JDC/Miller Motorsports Oreca FLM09
88 Starworks Motorsport Oreca FLM09

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3 Corvette Racing Chevrolet Corvette C7R
4 Corvette Racing Chevrolet Corvette C7R
25 BMW Team RLL BMW M6 GTLM
62 Risi Competizione Ferrari 488 Italia GTE
66 Ford Chip Ganassi Racing Ford GT GTE
67 Ford Chip Ganassi Racing Ford GT GTE
68 Scuderia Corsa Ferrari 488 Italia GTE
72 SMP Racing Ferrari 488 Italia GTE
100 BMW Team RLL BMW M6 GTLM
911 Porsche North America Porsche 911 RSR
912 Porsche North America Porsche 911 RSR

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6 Stevenson Motorsport Audi R8 LMS
9 Stevenson Motorsport Audi R8 LMS
11 O'Gara Motorsport Lamborghini Huracán GT3
16 Change Racing Lamborghini Huracán GT3
21 Konrad Motorsport Lamborghini Huracán GT3
22 Alex Job Racing Porsche 911 GT3 R
23 Alex Job Racing / Team Seattle Porsche 911 GT3 R
28 Konrad Motorsport Lamborghini Huracán GT3
30 Frikadelli Racing Porsche 911 GT3 R
33 Riley Motorsports Dodge Viper GT3-R
44 Magnus Racing Audi R8 LMS
45 Flying Lizards Motorsports/Krohn Racing 2014-Audi R8 LMS
48 Paul Miller Racing Lamborghini Huracán GT3
51 Spirit of Race/AF Corse Ferrari 458 GT3
63 Scuderia Corsa Ferrari 458 GT3
73 Park Place Motorsports Porsche 911 GT3 R
93 Riley Motorsports Dodge Viper GT3-R
96 Turner Motorsports BMW M6 GT3
97 Turner Motorsports BMW M6 GT3
98 Aston Martin Racing Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3
007 TRG-AMR Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3
540 Black Swan Racing Porsche 911 GT3 R

P: 13
PC: 8
GTLM: 11
GTD: 22
Totals: 53
Manufacturers Represented: 12 (13 if you consider Panoz/DW as a car company)

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Old 15 Jan 2016, 20:24 (Ref:3605184)   #315
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Make no mistakes - at least at the Ring she can hang with the best of them.
Yes, and considering time in the car and difference of the car to her normal acquited herself very well. Then the race after in the 24hr was up at the top until problems.

An enthusiasm for racing and the 'ring that is ineffectious. More please.

But if she is slow at Daytona we can do what we do best as Sportscar fans, slag someone off, it's what we're best at. Less please.
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But if she is slow at Daytona we can do what we do best as Sportscar fans, slag someone off, it's what we're best at. Less please.
Complaining about complaining seems to be what we are second best at.
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Lol. Perhaps I fit in.

Still a new level is there to be achieved: complaining about complaining about complaining.

I'm just observing that we're a bunch of grumpy miserable people who not liking things is the default position, think not enjoying the races is a badge of honour, use any positive outburst to actually be a snide shot at something else and seem to be at home having no fun in life. Go us. I can see why people aren't getting into Motorsport.

Whatever makes us happy. Or rather not.
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So this is the entry list that we ended up with (probably the best GTLM field that will race in the world this year). Is it too early to make picks?

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0 DeltaWing Racing Cars DeltaWing DWC13
2 Tequila Patrón ESM Ligier JS P2 HPD
5 Action Express Racing Coyote Corvette DP
10 Wayne Taylor Racing Dallara Corvette DP
31 Action Express Racing Coyote Corvette DP
37 SMP Racing BR Engineering BR01 Nissan
50 Highway to Help Riley BMW/Dinan DP
55 SpeedSource Lola B08/80 Mazda/AER
60 Michael Shank Racing Ligier JS P2 HPD
70 SpeedSource Lola B08/80 Mazda/AER
90 VisitFlorida.com Racing Coyote Corvette DP
01 Ford Chip Ganassi Racing Riley Ford DP
02 Ford Chip Ganassi Racing Riley Ford DP

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8 Starworks Motorsport Oreca FLM09
20 BAR1 Motorsports Oreca FLM09
26 BAR1 Motorsports Oreca FLM09
38 Performance Tech Oreca FLM09
52 PR1/Mathiasen Motorsports Oreca FLM09
54 CORE Autosport Oreca FLM09
85 JDC/Miller Motorsports Oreca FLM09
88 Starworks Motorsport Oreca FLM09

GTLM
3 Corvette Racing Chevrolet Corvette C7R
4 Corvette Racing Chevrolet Corvette C7R
25 BMW Team RLL BMW M6 GTLM
62 Risi Competizione Ferrari 488 Italia GTE
66 Ford Chip Ganassi Racing Ford GT GTE
67 Ford Chip Ganassi Racing Ford GT GTE
68 Scuderia Corsa Ferrari 488 Italia GTE
72 SMP Racing Ferrari 488 Italia GTE
100 BMW Team RLL BMW M6 GTLM
911 Porsche North America Porsche 911 RSR
912 Porsche North America Porsche 911 RSR

GTD
6 Stevenson Motorsport Audi R8 LMS
9 Stevenson Motorsport Audi R8 LMS
11 O'Gara Motorsport Lamborghini Huracán GT3
16 Change Racing Lamborghini Huracán GT3
21 Konrad Motorsport Lamborghini Huracán GT3
22 Alex Job Racing Porsche 911 GT3 R
23 Alex Job Racing / Team Seattle Porsche 911 GT3 R
28 Konrad Motorsport Lamborghini Huracán GT3
30 Frikadelli Racing Porsche 911 GT3 R
33 Riley Motorsports Dodge Viper GT3-R
44 Magnus Racing Audi R8 LMS
45 Flying Lizards Motorsports/Krohn Racing 2014-Audi R8 LMS
48 Paul Miller Racing Lamborghini Huracán GT3
51 Spirit of Race/AF Corse Ferrari 458 GT3
63 Scuderia Corsa Ferrari 458 GT3
73 Park Place Motorsports Porsche 911 GT3 R
93 Riley Motorsports Dodge Viper GT3-R
96 Turner Motorsports BMW M6 GT3
97 Turner Motorsports BMW M6 GT3
98 Aston Martin Racing Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3
007 TRG-AMR Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3
540 Black Swan Racing Porsche 911 GT3 R

P: 13
PC: 8
GTLM: 11
GTD: 22
Totals: 53
Manufacturers Represented: 12 (13 if you consider Panoz/DW as a car company)
I guess that 997 911 GT3 isn't going to be at the race then? I was intrigued to see them at the November test but have not heard a single thing since then.

EDIT: It was Autometrics Motorsports.

http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/12414...nes-naec-plans

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Question: Will the GTLM Michellin cars be able to run single stint tires for at least a portion of the race for the Daytona 24 (i.e. Qualifying, final hour)? I hope so. It makes them so much quicker.
I thought at Petit they mentioned Michelin would not be using the "single stint special" tires they had through the 2nd half of the IMSA season last year. But that being said, I also am not sure if there is a limited number of tires allowed for the race by the rules. So no, I can't answer your question!
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I thought at Petit they mentioned Michelin would not be using the "single stint special" tires they had through the 2nd half of the IMSA season last year. But that being said, I also am not sure if there is a limited number of tires allowed for the race by the rules. So no, I can't answer your question!
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I am aware of this. I still want to see how long it got dragged out before the guy figured it out or was told the answer.
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I am aware of this. I still want to see how long it got dragged out before the guy figured it out or was told the answer.
Fox, it was on the Daytona International Speedway FB Page. The Speedway posted a classic photo for throwback Thursday showing the start of the 1984 Daytona 24. After that last comment, it practically ended with someone simply telling that nascar fan that they used headlights and illuminated number panels in order to see.

By the way, for the sake of throwing it back to glorious times i.e., Group C and the Old Daytona front stretch...here's the picture they posted.



Granted, the Daytona 24 is the 3rd most important race held at that track each year, it is however, most refreshing to see that the public relation department within Daytona are not completely blinded by their obsesion for Nascar, and that they still show there recognizance and appreciation for the history of sports car racing and the 24.
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