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24 Nov 2022, 10:37 (Ref:4134714) | #326 | ||
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So to make a comment such as 'a great new novel' and 'on the fiction shelves' can come across as dismissive and insulting. If you can provide some evidence of why the post is 'fiction' it would (I think) help everyone else to understand what is not accurate in the post. How else are people expected to separate scuttlebutt from reality? |
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However, if he does gain the motivation to drive again then wouldn't you think being in the paddock, around the circus and involved with an F1 team is likely better than sitting on his couch in Monaco, Texas, Perth or wherever? It is also extremely common for former drivers to remain involved in the sport. This is why I thought it was odd. |
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25 Nov 2022, 06:34 (Ref:4134817) | #330 | |
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Just my opinion but there seems to be unrest between max and redbull regarding monaco quali where perez spun under certain circumstances .
I believe this is the tip of a large and ugly iceberg for the whole of f1 . The late and unprecedented appointment of dr seems to me a threat to max and motivation to keep his mouth shut . Flame away , its just my take . |
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25 Nov 2022, 07:31 (Ref:4134820) | #331 | ||
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It is not a problem. Just remember the comment Perez made in Brazil. |
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25 Nov 2022, 09:38 (Ref:4134833) | #334 | ||
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Don’t assume I dislike DR for that as I don’t blame him for wanting to be paid the most, but to suggest otherwise is incorrect. Why do we think he chose to reject the Haas desire to sign him for 2023? Money. He got paid a lot to drive. Now he’s being paid a lot to not drive. Good luck to him. This desire to see everything in black/white/factual/reported and accredited somewhere really doesn’t help anyone understand the actual goings on! |
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But surely if it happened it's factual and can be accredited, otherwise it's smoke and mirrors.
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2017 [Laurence Edmondson] - "Daniel Ricciardo will prioritise car performance above all else when it comes to negotiating his next contract in Formula One" 2017 [Ricciardo] - "I know what I want, and the performance side is more important than ticking the money box, if you like. Having the chance to be able to fight for something really meaningful -- races, championships -- that's the absolute priority. It's not even close" 2019 [Ricciardo] - "So next year, what would I need to see [from Renault]? Obviously improvements — not just from one position to the next, but solid improvements that actually we could realistically fight for a podium at some point next year. That would be very encouraging and motivating for everyone." 2020 [Ricciardo] - "I’ll be honest, there wasn’t one deciding factor. [...] It was quite clear to most that McLaren was the team which made the biggest step out of all [last year]. That was really encouraging for them, and that’s really all you can base it on. And then, the pitch for the future; obviously they are switching power units and all that." 2022 [Riccirado] - "I certainly felt these [emotions] the last couple of years, going through the highs and lows, and then with Covid, not seeing friends and family as often. So it all kind of just builds up to a point where I was like 'Okay, maybe it's best to just get a few things back in my life' – a bit more family time, bit more friends, and a bit more time for myself as well." Maybe DR's contract decisions are not quite as black and white about money as you'd like to believe? |
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25 Nov 2022, 10:33 (Ref:4134851) | #338 | |
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It's nice to know Red Bull still find Danny valuable, so good on them bringing him in as reserve driver. It shows that he is at least wanted in some capacity in F1
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25 Nov 2022, 12:58 (Ref:4134873) | #339 | ||
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You then hit me with a load of regurgitated press releases and notes. In almost four decades in the paddock I can't think of too many times that I've read a press release which told the real and complete truth. Do you really think a driver would front up to his tame press bod and tell them that money is the most important thing he is looking for? I've seen plenty of naivety on here but that would be quite something. Both of the last two teams he has driven for have been persuaded to pay top, top dollar and have been left ruing that the performances they got were not what they invested for. Now it pays more for 2023 not to race than it does to race. Hardly "the performance side is more important than ticking the money box" is it? If you come back with some more third-hand press comment I hope I don't see it. Doubtless you'd take offence if I criticised keyboard warriors so I will try hard not to. |
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25 Nov 2022, 13:16 (Ref:4134876) | #340 | ||
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Yeah, he seemed very good at Renault. Maybe Lando Norris is just that good. Curiously, his karting results didn't seem stellar initially. He certainly took his time. In 2011, something clicked, though.
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26 Nov 2022, 07:54 (Ref:4134950) | #343 | |
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I first noticed him in British F3. Even if the opposition could have been better, I was thinking he could go a long way. His performances in FR 3.5 also impressed me.
You're right he did really well at Renault, but his performances at McLaren will remain a mystery. He's still their most recent winner though! |
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27 Nov 2022, 07:14 (Ref:4135022) | #344 | |
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I have previously thought that Daniel’s time at McLaren is a legitimate mystery after everything that went before. Being a huge fan of his, I have always searched for reasons for the sub par performances but I am wondering now if the answer isn’t simply that Lando is exceptional and simply a good bit better than Daniel and that fact was amplified by the car having peculiar characteristics. On top of that, I think it is well known that mental confidence has a huge impact on performance and Daniel’s will have taken a beating which will have further exacerbated the issue.
I also found it hard to come to the conclusion that Lando was that good because Sainz had the better of him when they were team mates but I am now of the view that Lando has probably developed quite a bit with each year of learning so lining him up with Sainz in a McLaren (in 2023) may well yield a different result. Time will tell whether Lando really is that type of talent (and whether Daniel will get a chance to return after a reset). Last edited by peterelise; 27 Nov 2022 at 07:21. |
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In my view it is more likely a combination of the disappointing results at McLaren together with a big helping of “f*** you for leaving us the way you did”. I would be interested if there really is a view that they didn’t rate him after 2019/20. Last edited by peterelise; 27 Nov 2022 at 07:28. |
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It'll be interesting to see if Piastri can live with Norris this coming season. Maybe we will have more answers then.
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27 Nov 2022, 08:33 (Ref:4135032) | #347 | ||
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I don’t think they “didn’t rate him” but what might help is to realise that lack of ultimate performance, not working hard enough and not putting the absolute hours and effort in and also thinking the grass might be greener are all the same side of the coin. Despite his clear faults Alonso doesn’t have ALL of these traits. |
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27 Nov 2022, 11:47 (Ref:4135042) | #348 | ||
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I am also interested that you hint Daniel didn’t put in the effort at Renault. Is that a widely held view? Certainly from afar McLaren seem to be happy that Daniel tried hard enough to find performance and he wasn’t sacked for lack of effort. Indeed they seem to have made a point that they were happy with his efforts (just not the outcomes). |
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Danny Ricc's 2020 Renault season was almost as good as any of his other seasons in F1
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