Brabham BT35 - Page 14

Andrew Fellowes · 25 Feb 2007, 20:48 (Ref:1851262)

Roger this is BT35X-2 now,

BT36 engine cover and BT30/36 fuel tanks. It was for sale 18 months perhaps 2 years ago.

If you scroll about half way down this page there is another photo. http://kcre.sakura.ne.jp/20063.html

allenbrown · 28 Feb 2007, 14:33 (Ref:1853820)

Echappement Jul 1973 p145 identifies the Brabham of Robert Lucet as "la Brabham F2 ex-Lafosse écurie Antar 1971" running in the 1300cc class.

allenbrown · 3 Mar 2007, 19:59 (Ref:1857337)

BT35-3 and BT35-5
There is a feature on the Antar team cars of Jean-Louis Lafosse and Pierre-Francois Rousselot in Echappement pp74-76. The cars are in almost identical red livery so the drivers may well have swapped between them during the season.

Allen

allenbrown · 4 Mar 2007, 17:38 (Ref:1858049)

And more. Echapement Jan 1972 p91 reviews Jannick Auxeméry's season in Formula Renault and notes, under the heading of future projects, that the ex-Rousselot Brabham F3 has now arrived wth Roland Trollé, who ran Auxeméry in 1971.

So, out of BT35-3 and BT35-5, the ex-Rousselot car goes to Trollé/Auxeméry in 1972 and the ex-Lafosse car goes to Robert Lucet in 1973. I don't know where the ex-Lafosse car was in 1972.

Allen

Chris Townsend · 5 Mar 2007, 15:10 (Ref:1858985)

Allen

BT35-3 Lafosse; BT35-5 Lagier [Ecurie Opal] A/S gives these chassis numbers [possibly the other way round...] at the start of the year
Rousselot's Antar car not delivered until late April, debuts at Magny cours 2 May 71, so must be higher number

Chris

Andrew Fellowes · 9 Mar 2007, 02:13 (Ref:1861972)

Bonhams are selling BT35-6, They have printed a photo of BT35-8 !

They give the following history from the FIA form,

1971-73 Nick Cook,
1973-75 Rob Turnball
1975-84 Andrew Frazer
1984-87 David McLaughlin
1987-89 Keith Norman
1989-91 Rob Haze, Eindhoven, Netherlands
1991-2001 Keith Norman
2001-2004 Peter Tyer
2004-7 Peter Shaw

Andrew

Andrew Fellowes · 9 Mar 2007, 03:06 (Ref:1861995)

whoops, in the interest of accuracy

2004-7 is listed as 'present vendor'

Ted Walker · 9 Mar 2007, 08:48 (Ref:1862131)

Semi-works Rondel run car as Nick Cook owned the workshops where Rondel operated.

allenbrown · 9 Mar 2007, 09:00 (Ref:1862146)

Andrew Fraser, not Frazer. More gen here. Can Steve fill us in on Fraser? I have just one Sprint result for him, in 1977.

EDIT: Just noticed that I have Turnbull in this car in 1975 and 1976, then Fraser in 1977. Are the dates above wrong or did Turnbull have a second BT35 for 1975 and 1976?

Steve Wilkinson · 9 Mar 2007, 12:54 (Ref:1862302)

Quote:

Originally Posted by allenbrown

Andrew Fraser, not Frazer. More gen here. Can Steve fill us in on Fraser? I have just one Sprint result for him, in 1977.

EDIT: Just noticed that I have Turnbull in this car in 1975 and 1976, then Fraser in 1977. Are the dates above wrong or did Turnbull have a second BT35 for 1975 and 1976?

The above dates are wrong.

Rob Turnbull (not Turnball) ran the car through to the end of 1976. Then it was bought by Andrew Fraser in the South West. Fraser tended to concentrate on 'local' events.

allenbrown · 9 Mar 2007, 13:20 (Ref:1862321)

Any idea how long Fraser ran it? Could he have kept it as late as 1984, as the HSCC papers say, and then sold it to David McLaughlin?

This is this car of course:

Quote:

Originally Posted by allenbrown

According to the March 1984 HSCC Newsletter, David McLaughlin has a 1971 Brabham BT35 for the Pre-71 series. Originally driven by Nick Craw, it had had a "leisurely subsequent career in sprints and hillclimbs".

Although I don't appear to have posted this, I did phone David and ask him about the BT35 but he couldn't remember who he bought it from.

HSCC papers, on which the HVIF would probably have been based, tended to fill in any gaps by extending the ownership of known owners until they met. I wouldn't rely on these papers to show a continuous chain of owners.

Allen

Chris Townsend · 9 Mar 2007, 14:23 (Ref:1862360)

Andy Fraser of Newton Abbott is selling a BT35-t/c AS 30.10.80 p. 68.
Of course, we don't know if he sold it then, but there might be a three-four year gap if he did

chris

Steve Wilkinson · 9 Mar 2007, 15:06 (Ref:1862389)

Don't have direct contact with Mr Fraser but will pass the question in through a third party who does!

Steve Wilkinson · 9 Mar 2007, 19:44 (Ref:1862573)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Wilkinson

Don't have direct contact with Mr Fraser but will pass the question in through a third party who does!

The third party did have Andy Fraser telephone number but has jettisoned it during a house move! He seems to remember he lived somewhere in the Somerset levels!

Andrew Fellowes · 12 Mar 2007, 01:46 (Ref:1864236)

Sport Auto
September 1972 p.105
Brabham BT35 Holbay ét nf, dédouanée Tél: 722.40.81.

Sorry, I know this is not a very constructive post but it might fit somewhere some day. Wotsa ét nf ?!! please

phdm · 13 Mar 2007, 20:40 (Ref:1865865)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Fellowes

Wotsa ét nf ?!! please

Etat neuf

allenbrown · 13 Mar 2007, 20:57 (Ref:1865882)

as new?

Andrew Fellowes · 13 Mar 2007, 21:02 (Ref:1865886)

new state?

same result either way, interesting, thanks phdm

Bob Slusher · 15 Mar 2007, 16:01 (Ref:1867352)

Don Roose of Seattle, Washington USA has #44 for sale on EBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-...QQcmdZViewItem

Item # 290093377076

I know this car and it is a lovely professional restoration.

Bob Slusher
Portland, Oregon

kentr1 · 9 Apr 2007, 21:58 (Ref:1887559)

On my BDA head is a raised logo which consists of the letters AM formed into an oval. Is this an old Arch Motor logo? I believe I have a Hart BDA based on certain parts, although I know this can be unreliable. I was really wondering if Hart used AM to cast his heads?

Hope I'm not a bother....

Kent

Bryan Miller · 9 Apr 2007, 22:35 (Ref:1887585)

Kent,

I am ready to be shot down in flames , however I think the AM stands for '' Aeroplane and Motor '' the casting company of the bare cylinder heads.

Bryan.

gnuse · 13 Apr 2007, 17:02 (Ref:1890575)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Miller

Chris .

Re. the other chassis , any more info on where it came from and went to would certainly assist.
If it was BT35-17 , I have absolutely nothing against that no.

Any one have any clues.???

Bryan.

I'm new to this forum, but I have owned a few race cars. I know how nice it is to fill in the blanks. I used to own Brabham BT35C-17.

Regards,
George

allenbrown · 13 Apr 2007, 18:08 (Ref:1890620)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuse

... I have owned a few race cars ...

More than a few! And some very nice ones as well.

Good to see you here George. Hope you're well.

Allen

Steve Wilkinson · 15 May 2007, 14:42 (Ref:1913962)

Brabham BT35-22 = In 1972 it was in Italy and was initially driven by....
Florenzo Togna under the Como Corse banner; He failed to qualify at Monza on the 27th & 29th May whilst retired from the races at Varano (11/6) and Imola (23/7).
The car is then listed as being driven by "ENZO" on behalf of Brescia Corse but no results available.

Brabham BT35-48 = In 1972 it was also in Italy and was initially driven by ....
Marcello Gallo under the Scuderia Italia banner; he retired from the Monza race on 27/05 but was sixth at Monza on the 29th May.
Pino Pica drove the car for Scuderia Italia at Varano (11/06) and was 5th; then at Imola (23/07) he was 3rd.

Brabham BT35-49 = Again in '72 it is in Italy and was driven by ....
Pino Pica for Scuderia Italia. He won at Monza (12/03), Rtd at Monza (16/04), was 3rd at Imola (01/05), rtd at Monaco, was 1st at Monza (27/05) ten rtd on the 29th at Monza.
Luigi Fontanesi then drove the car for Scuderia Italia winning Heat 1 & coming 2nd in the Final at Monza on the 3rd Sept. He then came 2nd at Vallelunga on the 10th Sept - no other details.

Brabham BT35-47 = Again in Italy for '72 and was driven by ....
Bruno Pescia for Jolly Club at Monza (16/04) where he was 8th.
"Gero" again for Jolly Club. He was 6th at Imola on 23/07. He was then 6th in Ht 1 at Monza (03/09) but failed to start the final. He was then 10th at Vallelunga (10/09) - no other details.

Brabham BT35-46 = '72 in Italy and was driven by ....
Carlo Giorgio for Jolly Club. 1st Monza (16/04); 2nd Imola (01/05); 2nd Monza (27/05); 2nd Monza (29/05); 1st Varano (11/06); 13th Imola (23/07)
It was then driven by Clois Avigni under the Scuderia Italia banner at Monza on 3rd Sept coming 12th in Heat 2 nd 14th in the Final.
10th September and it was being driven again by Giogio at Vallelunga for Jolly Club. He qualified 5th but didn't finish in the top 10.
Fernando Spreafico is also listed as driving the car some time after 10/09 for Scuderia Italia.

Brabham BT35-38 = '72 Italy and was driven by ....
Alessandro Pesenti-Rossi for Jolly Club. 5th Monza (12/03); 4th Imola (16/04); Rtd Imola (01/05); DNF in Ht Monaco; 5th Monza (27/05); DNF in Ht Monza (29/05); 7th Varano (11/06); 2nd Imola (23/07); DNF in Ht Monza (03/09); 4th Vallelunga (10/09).

Brabham BT35-21 = '72 Italy and was driven by ....
Pier-Giorgio Provolo for AC Verona. DNFs at Monza & Imola

Brabham BT35-15 = '72 Italy and was driven by ....
Remo Ramanzini for Brescia Corse. 10th Monza (12/03)

Brabham BT35-30 = '72 Italy and was driven by ....
Adelmo Bignami for Scuderia Italia. 03/09 Monza 4th in Ht 2 & 5th in the Final. Vallelunga (10/09) Qualified 20th.
Pier-Giorgio Tenani for Scuderia Italia is also listed as driving later in the season.

Brabham BT35-42 = '72 Italy. This car is listed against Pino Pica for Scuderia Italia but no details available.

Finally Brabham BT35-88 is also listed against Lella Lombardi (Jolly Club) and Roberto Marazzi (Scuderia Nettuno) but no details available.

Andrew Fellowes · 15 May 2007, 21:51 (Ref:1914263)

Brilliant stuff Steve, I've been trying for ages to work out potential chassis that Bob Sellix has (BT30-21).
Way, way too many!

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