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Old 31 May 2014, 19:55 (Ref:3413330)   #326
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It is a strange line of thought, almost as if the ACO are scared of cars being uncontrollable if they launch over the humps so they must provide plenty of tarmac in the landing areas ...
I don't frankly think it's the ACO controlling this, but FIA... since it has been the number 1 circuit safety policy of the FIA in the last decade in FIA Grade 1 and (most) Grade 2s. And with FIA now in more active role in sportscars too
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Old 1 Jun 2014, 09:00 (Ref:3413580)   #327
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Through the past years I have made lots of photos from cars in the ford chicanes, many of them showed the cars almost 100% on the inside of the last turn in, next to the track. Not exactly respecting track limits, so hopefully that will stop with those new kerbstones.
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Old 1 Jun 2014, 21:23 (Ref:3413919)   #328
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Through the past years I have made lots of photos from cars in the ford chicanes, many of them showed the cars almost 100% on the inside of the last turn in, next to the track. Not exactly respecting track limits, so hopefully that will stop with those new kerbstones.
Yes . Today in the Ford curves we could see some cars frankly drive straight in the first curve but absolutely not in the second.
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Old 2 Jun 2014, 10:52 (Ref:3414166)   #329
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Might see a few more hairy moments when the drivers begin to try and push the limits of those curbs come next week.
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Old 2 Jun 2014, 12:51 (Ref:3414226)   #330
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The gravel trap has been extended at the Chevrolet corner, formerly known as the Karting S, at the end of the Porsche Curves as planned.

Plans to increase the gravel at the right hander at the start of the famous sequence have been delayed, but the tyre barriers have been increased from four to six layers and a Techpro safety system installed in front of them.

Vincent Beaumesnil, sporting manager at race organiser the Automobile Club de l'Ouest, said: "More gravel is planned at the entry of the Porsche Curves, but we cannot say when.
Well at least it's more gravel and not asphalt on this particular case, which is good.

Also thankfully drivers aren't whining about the updated chicane.
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Old 2 Jun 2014, 13:10 (Ref:3414236)   #331
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Ok, so yeah, I think we have a issue here
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Old 2 Jun 2014, 13:14 (Ref:3414240)   #332
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Ok, so yeah, I think we have a issue here
Yes it appears the Ferarri is nose heavy
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Cars have been doing that for quite a few years. Okay not quite to the extent of the Porsche. But certainly saw a couple of cars do similar to the Ferrari last year.
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That's drivers running out of talent or being too gready for lap time, not the fault of the circuit.
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That's drivers running out of talent or being too gready for lap time, not the fault of the circuit.

Joerg B tweeted he outbraked himself and decided to go over the gravel to not hit the kerbs. Apparently the edge from Tarmac to gravel is also very high
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Don't worry, in 10 years time we will be lucky if there will one spoonful of gravel & grass left @ Sarthe
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Bold suggestion: just get rid off the chicane completely - or (less bold): bring it back to just one left-right kink instead of the double one.

All we have to do is kick the FIA out...
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Bold suggestion: just get rid off the chicane completely - or (less bold): bring it back to just one left-right kink instead of the double one.

All we have to do is kick the FIA out...
Catalunya style car park coming in the future I'd wager.

It's actually an awesome chicane in terms of the speed they take through it. It's a challenge right now it's not just a stop-go bus stop like we see at a lot of tracks.

Really hope they don't mess around with it too much.
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Bold suggestion: just get rid off the chicane completely - or (less bold): bring it back to just one left-right kink instead of the double one.

All we have to do is kick the FIA out...
Funny how everything is just now FIA's fault, altough it has been the safety organization for 100 years and ACO has its own resume of abominations.
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Bergmeister very lucky in escaping a heavy back injury there...
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Wow, what on earth happened to that Porsche?
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Changes to the public highway will eventually make the section of track from the right-hander at Indianapolis to Arnage permanent circuit.

The local government is changing the layout of the roads to do away with the crossroads at which the circuit turns 90-deg right at Arnage Corner because it is an accident blackspot.
That sounds like more freedom to expand runoffs etc.
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Back when I was deciding which grandstand to get tickets for it was between Dunlop and the one at the Ford Chicane. I picked Dunlop because my wife will be there for the first time and I wanted her to be closer to the concert stage and vendor area incase she got bored. Now after seeing these action shots of airborne cars at the Ford Chicane I think I made the wrong decision!
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I will definitely watch a part of practice at that chicane, action guaranteed!
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I will definitely watch a part of practice at that chicane, action guaranteed!
You might just see me there too!
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Back when I was deciding which grandstand to get tickets for it was between Dunlop and the one at the Ford Chicane. I picked Dunlop because my wife will be there for the first time and I wanted her to be closer to the concert stage and vendor area incase she got bored. Now after seeing these action shots of airborne cars at the Ford Chicane I think I made the wrong decision!
Right call Scott, airborne cars were at Dunlop, not Ford.
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Right call Scott, airborne cars were at Dunlop, not Ford.
Bergmeister's Porsche jumped in the first Ford chicane.
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Bergmeister's Porsche jumped in the first Ford chicane.
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Bold suggestion: just get rid off the chicane completely - or (less bold): bring it back to just one left-right kink instead of the double one.

All we have to do is kick the FIA out...
The Ford chicanes were created 42 years ago ! If you want any change, ask J.P. Beltoise and the other pilots who imagined the "nouvelle portion", not the FIA.
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I actually like the Ford Chicanes, which is weird, they are designed well enough that the drivers can really attack them rather than having to slow to a crawl and if you get them right they can have a real effect on your lap and the next one.
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