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Old 26 Jan 2012, 20:20 (Ref:3017451)   #326
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Its a pity that Daytona wont be on free to air in Australia I was so looking forward to watching.... BAD onehd
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Old 26 Jan 2012, 20:52 (Ref:3017462)   #327
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Its a pity that Daytona wont be on free to air in Australia I was so looking forward to watching.... BAD onehd
Yeah, this sucks. Hopefully they will have some delayed coverage in case I can't find a feed to watch.
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Old 27 Jan 2012, 18:42 (Ref:3017904)   #328
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Just a head up to those of you who have access to Speed2.com. The conti race is being shown live right now with excellent an excellent stream so far.
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Old 28 Jan 2012, 01:22 (Ref:3018012)   #329
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Business as usual

The race tires in use for this series are actually manufactured by Hoosier under contract and `branded' as Continetal as they have no race tire manufacturing capability. .
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Old 28 Jan 2012, 01:27 (Ref:3018014)   #330
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The race tires in use for this series are actually manufactured by Hoosier under contract and `branded' as Continetal as they have no race tire manufacturing capability. .
Conti and Hoosier have a strategic alliance, so Hoosier is in essence Conti's race-department.

And then: How many car manufacturers outsource their racing efforts to a specialist company? Aston - Prodrive, Ferrari - Michelloto, GM - P&M.... indeed, business as usual in the racing industry.
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Yeah, this sucks. Hopefully they will have some delayed coverage in case I can't find a feed to watch.
My tv guides says there is seven hours of footage from 1am Monday morning. Im guessing thats delayed, would like to know what part of the race it is.
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Old 28 Jan 2012, 04:31 (Ref:3018033)   #332
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My tv guides says there is seven hours of footage from 1am Monday morning. Im guessing thats delayed, would like to know what part of the race it is.
Not on my TV guide nor EPG (Newcastle region), just has show repeats. Frustrating. Might just record that time slot anyway and see what happens.
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Old 28 Jan 2012, 05:10 (Ref:3018041)   #333
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Well Im gonna get up and watch it til I have to get off to work just after five. Better then nothing I suppose...

Mind you if they do this with Le Mans Im going to be livid.
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Old 28 Jan 2012, 15:12 (Ref:3018184)   #334
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Just in case this didn't make it to the board. Turner's broadcast from ustream:
http://rmatest.ustream.tv/channel/tu...otorsport-live
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Old 28 Jan 2012, 17:30 (Ref:3018239)   #335
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While Corvette and Riley are the only two new-look DPs for now, more appear to be on their way, possibly for as soon as mid-year, according to Spitzer.

“We're hopeful to introduce more in the 2012 season,” Spitzer says. “We're working with those people in finding logical solutions. That relates to our review and approval process as well as the wind tunnel process and variability to execute. All of those factors are involved. We will talk to all people that are interested and find ways to get them in that are logical.”
I really hope that leads to new entrants not just new bodies for the Fords and Bimmers...
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Having looked at the schedules, it seems Motors and Eurosport are both showing bits and peices of the, but the same ones! Theres a void in the middle of the night (UK time) that there is no coverage on either (teleshopping on Motors, Eurosport News on ES).

Beggars can't be chooser's i guess.
Which one will have the best picture quality? Both can be poor.
Motors is showing more and Eurosport will probably decide to show something else at the last minute, so I'll go MotorsTV.
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Old 28 Jan 2012, 18:30 (Ref:3018262)   #337
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I really hope that leads to new entrants not just new bodies for the Fords and Bimmers...
I think the safe money is on the fords and bmws. Other manufacturers would need to make new engines if they entered and I don't think that will happen this year.
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Old 29 Jan 2012, 00:37 (Ref:3018361)   #338
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Honda, Porsche, Ferrari, are also possible. I'm not sure if the Infiniti/Nissan, Lexus/Toyota engines are still approved. Don't know how they would fall out of approval. So who knows. Fingers crossed.

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Old 29 Jan 2012, 02:49 (Ref:3018382)   #339
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Do the rules favor/mandate large capacity V8s in some form? I'm wondering why they're all going with 5 liter engines instead of smaller ones like those used in LMPs.
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Old 29 Jan 2012, 02:59 (Ref:3018383)   #340
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Do the rules favor/mandate large capacity V8s in some form? I'm wondering why they're all going with 5 liter engines instead of smaller ones like those used in LMPs.
Lexus started out with a 4.3 back in 03 but then graduated to the 5.0l after a couple of years ago.

Conversely, Dinan apparently is working on a 4.0 BMW engine based on the current M3, but is not quite happy with its reliability yet. That one might see race action over the course of the 2012 season, though.
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Do the rules favor/mandate large capacity V8s in some form? I'm wondering why they're all going with 5 liter engines instead of smaller ones like those used in LMPs.
The rules actually favor smaller displacement motors (4 litre engines get an extra gear and less weight), and if you look at past Daytona races, the porsche flat 6 was usually the fastest powerplant. That being said, lack of reliability and a large contingency check from Chevy/Ford has tended to be the major influence in engine style for a while now.
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Old 29 Jan 2012, 22:01 (Ref:3018661)   #342
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Honest to goodness question. I'll concede that the Riley Porsche (flat six) is the car to have at Daytona, but why did it suck everywhere else? No torque to get through traffic?

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Old 31 Jan 2012, 00:49 (Ref:3019210)   #343
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Lets look at the rest of the season.

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01 Chip Ganassi Racing BMW/Riley
2 Starworks Motorsport (?) Ford/Riley
5 Action Express Racing Chevrolet Corvette
*6 Shank Ford/Riley (Hearing 6 car will be back at Barber, Indianapolis, and Mid Ohio with "open wheel" drivers)
7 Starworks Ford/Riley (I assume Luhr/Pay driver)
8 Starworks Ford/Riley (I assume Dalziel/Pay driver)
9 Action Express Racing Chevrolet Corvette
10 Suntrust Racing Chevrolet Corvette
60 Shank Ford/Riley
77 Doran Racing Ford/Dallara (Lists full season entry on website)
90 Spirit of Daytona Chevrolet Corvette
99 Gainsco Chevrolet Corvette

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12 Alliance Autosport Porsche 911(?) (run several regular rounds in 2011)
15 Rick Ware Racing Ford Mustang
16 Rick Ware Racing Porsche 911 (?)
30 Whelen Chevrolet Corvette
40 Dempsey Racing Mazda RX-8
41 Dempsey Racing Mazda RX-8
42 Sahlen's Racing Mazda RX-8
43 Sahlen's Racing Mazda RX-8
44 Magnus Racing Porsche 911
49 Sahlen's Racing Mazda RX-8 (?)
51 APR Motorsport Audi R8
57 Stevenson Motorsports Chevrolet Camaro
59 Brumos Racing Porsche 911
67 TRG Motorsports Porsche 911
69 AIM Autosport Ferrari 458 Italia
70 Speedsource Racing Mazda RX-8
74 Oryx Racing Audi R8
75 Stevenson Motorsports Chevrolet Camaro (?)
85 Racer's Edge Motorsports Dodge Viper (?) (say second viper is possible)
87 Racer's Edge Motorsports Dodge Viper
88 Autohaus Motorsports Chevrolet Camaro
93 Turner Motorsports BMW M3 (?)
94 Turner Motorsports BMW M3

Of Course, after Risi's facebook post today:

62 Risi (?)
63 Risi (?)

Should be a good season.
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 00:57 (Ref:3019212)   #344
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Yeah I look forward to it, should be good!

Go SpeedSource.
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Might be 1-2 more Audis for the rest of the year, a second RWR Mustang is also planned.

And according to the Speed-Broadcast Ford is working on a *gasp* V6 Twin-Turbo engine, which might be introduced as early as mid-season.
Incidentally, that's the time Dave Spitzer says we might see some more manufacturer silhouettes.
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And according to the Speed-Broadcast Ford is working on a *gasp* V6 Twin-Turbo engine, which might be introduced as early as mid-season.
Incidentally, that's the time Dave Spitzer says we might see some more manufacturer silhouettes.
Not shocked by this. I guess they will come up with a Mustang silhouette?
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Not shocked by this. I guess they will come up with a Mustang silhouette?
My money would be on something 'Fusion' inspired. Don't think there is an ecoboost powered Mustang, yet, and for some reason I think it would be easier to drape some fusion styling cues over a Riley (cf.2013 Fusion NASCAR Cup car) than the rather slabsided Mustang-look. I might be wrong, though.

Also: Did Ford pay for the big blue oval on the front of Starworks #8?

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My money would be on something 'Fusion' inspired. Don't think there is an ecoboost powered Mustang, yet, and for some reason I think it would be easier to drape some fusion styling cues over a Riley (cf.2013 Fusion NASCAR Cup car) than the rather slabsided Mustang-look. I might be wrong, though.

Also: Did Ford pay for the big blue oval on the front of Starworks #8?
I'd go for a Ford GT-inspired silhouette. I mean, if Chevrolet brings a Corvette bodykit, Ford can't just bring a silhouette based on a sedan.
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I'd go for a Ford GT-inspired silhouette. I mean, if Chevrolet brings a Corvette bodykit, Ford can't just bring a silhouette based on a sedan.
Initially I didn't think that a Ford GT body would be in the cards since they don't make it anymore. But I suppose it is possible since these are "prototypes". That would be funny if Ford did make a Fusion body, I could just imagine the headlines: "Ford Fusion beats Chevy Corvette"
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I'd lean toward Fusion as well, but they have used the Mustang in Nationwide and for funny cars in NHRA, although it's a struggle to see the Mustang in them. Have seen some rumours about both a new GT being looked at plus adding an ecboost line to the mustang, although some think it will be tough to sell a turbo in a Mustang after the 70s/80s 4 cylinder reliability, or lack there of.
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