uk f1 tv coverage - sky, bbc and ch4

[steve_r]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Just a reminder everyone, there is an ignore facility.

I joined this forum 22 years ago, and this is news to me!

[Peter Mallett]

Always first with the news, that's me.

[Akrapovic]

I do use the ignore function, but when an entire thread centers around a person it's unfortunately not as useful.

We talk about Danica being a relevant top driver or whatever. It's hard to take this line seriously when she never raced in Formula 1. Meanwhile the others mentioned are Damon Hill, Jenson Button, Ant Davidson, Johnny Herbert, Karun Chandock and Martin Brundle. There's 2 world championships and almost 40 F1 wins there, plus 2 Le Mans victories. The pundit package is not short of achievements.

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Just a reminder everyone, there is an ignore facility.

Where is it in the UI/how do you use it?

Richard

Edit: Ah, found it in user CP... "Edit ignore list"

[chillibowl]

they have women on TV now dont you know!

https://www.reuters.com/breakingview...23-2022-12-23/

https://www.f1academy.com/Latest/6Rc...f1-academy-are

As the number of female fans of F1 has risen to 40%, this is reflected in the faces of those watching trackside. In 2019, women made up 20% of Grand Prix attendees and in the space of four years, that has grown to almost a third.

numbers like that to me suggest the desire to include more women in the broadcast is not merely an attempt at tokenism but rather a genuine attempt to catch up to where the audience really is at these days....a trend i suspect every major sport has known for like decades now (NFL and NBA certainly).

Pinkham, Collins, Brookes, Schiff, and Patrick all bring insight while also speaking to the changing demographic of the sport. thats a great thing imo. and to SKYs credit they seem more than willing to embrace this with individuals who have knowledge of the sport rather than just picking people who solely look pretty on TV.

combine that with the massive amount of coverage each race weekend (10-12 hours of unscripted television was mentioned earlier and more even during sprint weekends), the improvements in picture and audio quality, the ever increasing number of camera placements, investments in technology, the quality of pre and post race analysis with multiple points of view being expressed, accessibility to all the teams and drivers...

i watch a lot of sports...to much really so when i say SKY's F1 coverage is without a doubt an absolute global leader in terms of sports coverage quality it is something that is coming from my own experiences.

if you have the time, then its well worth the price of admission imo.

anyways, related/not related but here are a few recent words by Alan Moore (and yes i also read too many comic books!) on the subject of fandom... i think a good reminder why any fandom one wishes to participate in (in our case here its racing) does not have to be such divisive thing! challenging other fans because they dont hate things the same way you do is ****ing boring!

https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...gate-and-trump

An enthusiasm that is fertile and productive can enrich life and society, just as displacing personal frustrations into venomous tirades about your boyhood hobby can devalue them. Quite liking something is OK. You don’t need the machete or the megaphone.

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by Richard C

Where is it in the UI/how do you use it?

Richard

Edit: Ah, found it in user CP... "Edit ignore list"

Bingo. There is also the scroll past function too.

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Bingo. There is also the scroll past function too.

I am loathe to use any ignore function, but would if I felt that was my best option. I don't see myself adding anyone anytime soon. I "try" to use the scroll past function, but sometimes that doesn't work.

Richard

[flatlandsman]

Forums are for discussion.

That is what was going on. Seems you people even the more senior, do not really understand that point. (nothing new there).

What is this thread for if it is not for discussion about F1 on tv?

Do tell me what else you would like to talk about. Or I simply think you would rather I did not talk about anything as you would prefer your nice little safe space.

I will simply add that compared to many other sports F1 is heavy on presenters, perhaps only cricket compares as you have maybe 5 or 6 commentators, football, rugby, even other Motorsport has far less.

That was all I was really saying. Beyond throwing a few curve balls out there.

Seems I am not allowed to ignore Mallett, will just ahve to scroll

[Greem]

Originally Posted by ;4233047

Always first with the news, that's me.

Who said that?

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by E.B

Its irrelevant in the commentary context, but just for the record Desiré Wilson might beg to differ.... She won an Aurora British F1 Championship race at Brands in 1980. She scored another 4 or 5 podiums in the series. Edit: checked and she scored 7 Aurora / British F1 podiums in 1979/80.
Away from open wheelers she also won in Sportscars....she won the 1980 Monza 1000km and Silverstone 6 Hours World Championship for Makes races, making her the first woman to have won an FIA world championship circuit race.
She was also the only woman to have been licensed to drive in a CART Indycars event.

I don't see how it can be irrelevant in the commentary context. Danica's been brought in as a commentator/pundit because of her achievements and experience as a female driver.


Desiré Wilson was outstanding, especially given the era she was racing in. However not wanting to detract from her achievements, how many people watching motorsport today will remember her, or have even heard of her?

[Mike Harte]

There are still enough of us wrinklies around that certainly do remember her, BJ. In fact, there will probably be enough somewhat younger than I that will remember her.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I don't see how it can be irrelevant in the commentary context. Danica's been brought in as a commentator/pundit because of her achievements and experience as a female driver.


Desiré Wilson was outstanding, especially given the era she was racing in. However not wanting to detract from her achievements, how many people watching motorsport today will remember her, or have even heard of her?

I was more thinking that due to her age (now in her 70's), Im guessing that, her now being happily settled back in South Africa it might not appeal to her. That and as you alluded to, by extension her current invisibility in F1 / motor racing media terms other than the occasional Goodwood fling.

Originally Posted by Mike Harte

There are still enough of us wrinklies around that certainly do remember her, BJ. In fact, there will probably be enough somewhat younger than I that will remember her.

Certainly at Brands many younger ones would know her name thanks to the Desiré Wilson Grandstand between the start line and the Paddock Hill Grandstand.

[Skam85]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

they have women on TV now dont you know!

https://www.reuters.com/breakingview...23-2022-12-23/

https://www.f1academy.com/Latest/6Rc...f1-academy-are

As the number of female fans of F1 has risen to 40%, this is reflected in the faces of those watching trackside. In 2019, women made up 20% of Grand Prix attendees and in the space of four years, that has grown to almost a third.

A very very high percentage of women "F1 girlies" that I know that have recently got into it have had their interest piqued because of the likes of Leclerc, Ricciardo and Sainz....

[Skam85]

Anyway F1 again this weekend.

I for one am looking forward to the return of Ted's Notebook.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by Skam85

Anyway F1 again this weekend.

I for one am looking forward to the return of Ted's Notebook.

+1.

[flatlandsman]

That is one of the things I enjoy watching, and interestingly I will watch that at times independently of watching a race.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by flatlandsman

That is one of the things I enjoy watching, and interestingly I will watch that at times independently of watching a race.

I think it would be helpful if we knew whether your 'observations' come from actually watching the broadcast, or from third-hand information?

You stated previously 'I have not watched a race for a long time'.

And you have also said 'I do not watch [F1]'

As well as a statement that you do not watch any F1 content 'I have completely lost any love for F1, I still keep up to date but no longer watch races or anything'

Now with this post, you seem to suggest that you watch Ted's Notebook? May I ask where you watch this? - AFAIK it is currently only available to SKY subscribers?

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by Skam85

Anyway F1 again this weekend.

I for one am looking forward to the return of Ted's Notebook.

Another +1 for me. One of the things I look forward to.

[flatlandsman]

Sorry chaps you can usually watch it on Youtube. I do not watch all of them, just now and then.

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Another +1 for me. One of the things I look forward to.

I don't watch it, but I've always heard it's quite interesting.

[Skam85]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Now with this post, you seem to suggest that you watch Ted's Notebook? May I ask where you watch this? - AFAIK it is currently only available to SKY subscribers?

Based in Australia we can watch it either live or replay via the subscription streaming service Kayo or Foxtel satellite, depends on the country I suppose for the provider, but I'm not a Sky subscriber as such.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by Skam85

Based in Australia we can watch it either live or replay via the subscription streaming service Kayo or Foxtel satellite, depends on the country I suppose for the provider, but I'm not a Sky subscriber as such.

Foxtel also, with their Sports package (ie F1 Sky feed included) gives you free access to the F1 TV Pro App with all the live functions that includes.... Individual onboards, live timing plus a choice of the 'International' (Sky) Commentary feed or the alternative which I suspect is the Channel 4 comms but not 100% on that. Plus access to the F1 race archives, docos, features etc

[EastonNeston]

The sky team, on screen and backstage, should be complimented for how well they coped with the rain delays this evening. They kept the viewers informed and entertained in a difficult, and changing, situation.

[Greem]

Originally Posted by EastonNeston

The sky team, on screen and backstage, should be complimented for how well they coped with the rain delays this evening. They kept the viewers informed and entertained in a difficult, and changing, situation.

Entirely agreed. They could have just filled with nonsense, but they managed to include interesting interviews with loads of people who'd normally be busy and unavailable. I had to laugh at Ted's impromptu piece about Toto's chair though, that was so silly it was vacuous and entertaining at the same time.

[ChrisA]

Originally Posted by Greem

Entirely agreed. They could have just filled with nonsense, but they managed to include interesting interviews with loads of people who'd normally be busy and unavailable. I had to laugh at Ted's impromptu piece about Toto's chair though, that was so silly it was vacuous and entertaining at the same time.

Unlike CH4 highlights tonight. 30 minute programme, with an advert lasting nearly 5 minutes in middle. 24 lap sprint race, they showed about 15 laps of it, and didn't explain Vestappen's error in which he had a 5 second penalty, demoting him to 4th. Their coverage seems to be getting worse.