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20 Jan 2016, 22:24 (Ref:3606723) | #354 | ||
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The rules NGTC actually aren't suitable for the world championship. After all it is the actual identical cars. Monocup. Differing only with motors and that not at all. And aerodynamics. In NGTC there is no competition of design engineers. It isn't interesting to automobile plants. It can be to interestingly local automobile dealers. But their opportunities won't be enough for participation in the world championship.
TCR looks more interestingly, but they too have a problem with use of Balance of performance system. It depreciates many engineering decisions. By the way "Balance of performance" is and in NGTC, but there it is used almost secretly, in any case it was very heavy to find any information on handicaps of participants (turbo-supercharging pressure, the size of restrictor). TCR and NGTC are more spectacular on the route, but in TC1 there is a real fight between design offices. Likely it was possible as in NGTC to limit pressure of a turbo-supercharging of Citroen engines, or to increase turbo-supercharging pressure at Honda and Lada, but whether it will be really interesting? |
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Actually it is a problem in Europe: Britain has one of the most powerful economies in the world to which in Europe only Germany and France can compete. Germany has DTM, and now there will be TCR. France has a strange relation to touring cars, but now French will organize and work in WTCC. Other countries simply economically aren't able to afford now such expensive championship as BTCC. Therefore NGTC will never go out of Britain. Not in this reality. |
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TCR had troubles with BoP at the beginning of the season, solved quite shortly. And cars are surely nearer to each other, talking about bodyshell. Maybe only Subaru is a bit borderline. |
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21 Jan 2016, 09:47 (Ref:3606801) | #357 | |||
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A friend of mine working in WTCC told me that some manufacturers wanted to spare weight on suspension parts and made them way too light and fragile. They have learned the lesson. Citroen is a good example that WTCC suspensions are not fragile because of the regulations. |
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21 Jan 2016, 17:39 (Ref:3606897) | #361 | ||
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WTCC is a world championship where half of the field are privateers. It's unsustainable.
The point of a world championship is to have worldwide audiences. You can't do that with so many privateers. If DTM took over the WTCC, that could work. |
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You talk rubbish... look how many privateers the WTCC had have 2005 - 2013 and it was great.
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Instead since some years the wtcc barely survive thanks to independent team and btw every year is becoming always more difficult for them to be on the grid.. They must absolutely reduce the costs. Too much carbon fiber on the cars and too much aerodynamic influence. More than 1 mln of euro to buy a TC1 car is simply insane. |
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21 Jan 2016, 19:07 (Ref:3606927) | #364 | ||
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Well, actually until 2010 the amount of independents entered for the full season was 7-8 in average - same as nowadays but there were much more works entries. When SEAT, BMW left, number of indies has significantly grown.
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21 Jan 2016, 19:22 (Ref:3606932) | #365 | ||
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20 of 25 cars in 2013 were entered by privatteams but people barely cared about the championship, it doesn't always matter how good the sport is, people want to see big names.
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21 Jan 2016, 21:02 (Ref:3606956) | #366 | ||
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Some news about Russian round and Lada:
http://auto-sport.ru/news/652/154865/ According to the article, FIA inspection visited the track and confirmed the starting round of 2016. In addition Lada is rumoured to build 4 new chassis (don't really think it was possible) and they should start their preparation next week at Magny-Cours |
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22 Jan 2016, 00:34 (Ref:3607017) | #367 | ||
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23 Jan 2016, 16:44 (Ref:3607339) | #368 | |
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If Lada are gonna test, perhaps they could also say who there drivers are.....
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23 Jan 2016, 16:45 (Ref:3607340) | #369 | |
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I don't really like the ofseason....
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23 Jan 2016, 22:54 (Ref:3607489) | #372 | ||
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if lada really builts 4 new chassis, do you think they will enter 4 cars? and what will happen with the 3 chassis from 2015?
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Maybe some privateers will pick them up and change from Chevy to Lada?
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Huff reckoned all 3 were in a bad way so new one's needed I guess
http://www.touringcartimes.com/2015/...atar-set-back/ |
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