uk f1 tv coverage - sky, bbc and ch4 - Page 15

**Born Racer** · 11 Mar 2014, 16:03 (Ref:3377434)

I thought you said you were a Lazenby fan there for a moment.

aki13 · 11 Mar 2014, 16:56 (Ref:3377445)

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Originally Posted by henners88

I'm a bit of a lazy fan in comparison and don't need some of the geeky stuff to enjoy the race.

Hello old chap.

I always find myself looking at the stats and graphics and end up missing half the race.

henners88 · 11 Mar 2014, 17:35 (Ref:3377459)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

I thought you said you were a Lazenby fan there for a moment.

Haha, well I'm sure there is at least one out there somewhere. Whether or not they would be willing to admit it is another matter

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Originally Posted by aki13

Hello old chap.

I always find myself looking at the stats and graphics and end up missing half the race.

Good to see you old bean

My wife finds it annoying enough as it is that I dare watch F1 so I wouldn't want to risk a divorce! The stick I get for discussing it with strangers on the internet usually gets me a ribbing in front of our friends.

aki13 · 11 Mar 2014, 17:56 (Ref:3377476)

Do we know if BBC are clinging onto F1 in 2015. It seems as though F1 generally is going to collapse in the UK. If this happens.

Knowlesy · 11 Mar 2014, 20:22 (Ref:3377524)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Yeah what the hell was all that about?
Brundle and Impey were trying to follow up on their joke about him with something serious about his talent etc but got shouted down by the 2 sets of expensive teeth and the Joe Soap brigade!!

"Wur not really a legend then hu hu' Oh no, not on your levels Ponsonby and Pinky!

Brundle was curious. He's often said in the past that he admired Montoya and felt he would be missed yet the other day he laid into him. He is right though, he can get a tad surly!!

I suppose the trouble is the title of the programme. F1 Legends. To Stinkham and the dull, blonde mannequin this means five times F1 champions. Although interestingly they had no objection to Eddie Irvine and John Watson editions of the programme, perhaps because they may have the problem of bumping into them one day.

But the F1 Legends programmes come alive when they are talking to people like Berger and JPM. They aren't champions, but are definitely legends of the sport. I am far happier hearing their story than Mansell/Stewart etc for the millionth time.

henners88 · 12 Mar 2014, 10:12 (Ref:3377725)

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Originally Posted by aki13

Do we know if BBC are clinging onto F1 in 2015. It seems as though F1 generally is going to collapse in the UK. If this happens.

I think they will see out their current contract until 2018, but think it is highly likely it will be dropped after that. I can't see the sport allowing it to be solely on Sky though as they just can't attract enough viewers. Qualifying for the Australian GP is apparently being shown on Sky One so its clear the lack of viewers is a concern. Whether that is a concern for Sky themselves or Bernie, we might never know

aki13 · 12 Mar 2014, 12:46 (Ref:3377776)

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Originally Posted by henners88

I think they will see out their current contract until 2018, but think it is highly likely it will be dropped after that. I can't see the sport allowing it to be solely on Sky though as they just can't attract enough viewers. Qualifying for the Australian GP is apparently being shown on Sky One so its clear the lack of viewers is a concern. Whether that is a concern for Sky themselves or Bernie, we might never know

As I said elsewhere....on another forum..... opps

Anyway I think Bernie clearly doesn't care about fans as we know.

You have to question though whether Bernie actually cares about F1, because its clearly causing the worst dip in F1 following in the UK since either ITV days or even pre 78 when only some races were shown live.

csirl · 12 Mar 2014, 13:51 (Ref:3377812)

Setanta are showing all the races live.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 12 Mar 2014, 20:06 (Ref:3377936)

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Originally Posted by aki13

Do we know if BBC are clinging onto F1 in 2015. It seems as though F1 generally is going to collapse in the UK. If this happens.

I hope they are, having sport soley broadcast by Sky etc. isn't a good thing from a fan's point of view or for the fan base.

Greem · 12 Mar 2014, 20:37 (Ref:3377943)

I think the football world would disagree with that.

**Adam43** · 12 Mar 2014, 20:43 (Ref:3377945)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

I thought you said you were a Lazenby fan there for a moment.

I like him, although that is based in his rugby role not so much his F1 role.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 12 Mar 2014, 20:44 (Ref:3377947)

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Originally Posted by Greem

I think the football world would disagree with that.

Football, soccer, is the exception then again if you want to watch a Premier League match on Sky and don't have Sky, you can go to your local pub and watch it there, you can't always do that with other sports.

**Adam43** · 12 Mar 2014, 20:49 (Ref:3377948)

I suspect the Rugby world likes sky, and now subscription TV more generally, though.
Before sky, you couldn't get to see much Union on the telly. Now there is the opportunity to get what you want, because of sky. Huge variety too. This is a good thing.
F1, unlike club rugby, is in a position where it is viable to put it on a free to air terrestrial channel. That is because of Bernie and the work he did promoting the sport. Was it too successful though...

**bjohnsonsmith** · 12 Mar 2014, 20:53 (Ref:3377951)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

I suspect the Rugby world likes sky, and now subscription TV more generally, though.
Before sky, you couldn't get to see much Union on the telly. Now there is the opportunity to get what you want, because of sky. Huge variety too. This is a good thing.
F1, unlike club rugby, is in a position where it is viable to put it on a free to air terrestrial channel. That is because of Bernie and the work he did promoting the sport. Was it too successful though...

I don't have Sky, so if I want to watch Union on TV, I have to watch highlights on ITV4 and I'm sure I'm not the only Union fan without Sky.

**Adam43** · 12 Mar 2014, 20:57 (Ref:3377953)

True. I suspect that there wouldn't even be highlights on free telly if the main broadcaster wasn't there for every game. Knock on benefits.

The Premiership is now on BT Sport, BTW. Are you a BT customer as it'll be free if you are. Two or three games a weekend.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 12 Mar 2014, 21:03 (Ref:3377956)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

True. I suspect that there wouldn't even be highlights on free telly if the main broadcaster wasn't there for every game. Knock on benefits.

The Premiership is now on BT Sport, BTW. Are you a BT customer as it'll be free if you are. Two or three games a weekend.

Possibly a knock on benefit, then again ITV4 is a commercial channel and advertising revenue will play some part.

No I don't. I work in IT and have found BT nothing but problematic.

**Adam43** · 12 Mar 2014, 21:07 (Ref:3377958)

Yes, they may do it anyway, but it is more cost effective. Who presents the ITV4 show, is it still the double glazing salesman? He does BT now, but may do both?

I don't work in IT and have the same opinion.

chunder · 12 Mar 2014, 21:15 (Ref:3377964)

BT will only be free for a year at the time of sub. Or so far has been

After that you are bound to have to start paying for it. I hope for sports fans sake you can have a footie channel and anotehr sport channel that may be cheaper.

They didnt pay over a billion for footie to give it away free on package subscription deals I am afraid.

**Adam43** · 12 Mar 2014, 22:11 (Ref:3377993)

I'm sure. Someone has to pay to get the Rugby on the telly. Might as well be those who watch it.
Still I am with BT generally because of this. I guess it has worked.

wnut · 12 Mar 2014, 22:23 (Ref:3378000)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I don't have Sky, so if I want to watch Union on TV, I have to watch highlights on ITV4 and I'm sure I'm not the only Union fan without Sky.

The question BJ, how often do you bother watching the highlights?

Knowlesy · 12 Mar 2014, 23:00 (Ref:3378015)

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Originally Posted by chunder

BT will only be free for a year at the time of sub. Or so far has been

After that you are bound to have to start paying for it. I hope for sports fans sake you can have a footie channel and anotehr sport channel that may be cheaper.

They didnt pay over a billion for footie to give it away free on package subscription deals I am afraid.

It will inevitably go up, they have paid an incredible amount of money. Once they start showing Champions League football the subs will go up.

But for now it is good value, and may continue to be. £15 for non BT customers is not extortionate. If you are new to Sky and want to watch F1 you have to fork out for the sports package which is about £30-£40, and their football coverage is diminished this season thanks to BT. So if F1 and football are your two sports, then you are screwed!

**Born Racer** · 12 Mar 2014, 23:51 (Ref:3378031)

Just seen the Montoya bit.

The silly bimbo is the worst, as she says "from legends of the sport to legendary races" and gesticulates speech marks as she says "legends" of the sport.

And what has been her contribution other than run around like a squeally little kid after drivers?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 12 Mar 2014, 23:58 (Ref:3378034)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

Yes, they may do it anyway, but it is more cost effective. Who presents the ITV4 show, is it still the double glazing salesman? He does BT now, but may do both?

I don't work in IT and have the same opinion.

You lost me there on the double glazing salesman. I sometimes get lost with English vernacular.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 13 Mar 2014, 00:13 (Ref:3378036)

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Originally Posted by wnut

The question BJ, how often do you bother watching the highlights?

When I can but I'd prefer to see a live game.

davyboy · 13 Mar 2014, 08:37 (Ref:3378105)

The difference between Formula One and other sports mentioned [i.e. soccer, rugby etc...] is that under the current model the F1 teams need as big an audience as possible in order to secure the millions they get in advertising revenue from their sponsors. If that exposure is reduced [by migrating to pay per view], sponsorship revenue will be reduced too. The teams will need the gap plugged in some way - through increased PPV charges, driver funding or [perish the thought (!)] lower budgets.

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