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Old 8 Dec 2007, 17:40 (Ref:2084433)   #351
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Motorbase were talking about getting the 2007 works SEATs, is that still a possibility?
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Why not? Will SEAT run the same cars again next year? If they're moving to TDi, then what advantage would they have in keeping the old cars?
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Old 8 Dec 2007, 22:13 (Ref:2084555)   #352
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then what advantage would they have in keeping the old cars?
The Cost? I would have thought it would save them time and money not having to get new cars!?

I don't think you will see any other Leons in the BTCC apart from the 'Works Team'!
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Old 8 Dec 2007, 22:18 (Ref:2084560)   #353
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The Cost? I would have thought it would save them time and money not having to get new cars!?

I don't think you will see any other Leons in the BTCC apart from the 'Works Team'!
What about GR Asia? Where did they (and the customer Leon teams in the WTCC) get their cars from? Where they sold new or are they ex-factory cars?
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Old 8 Dec 2007, 22:39 (Ref:2084577)   #354
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What about GR Asia? Where did they (and the customer Leon teams in the WTCC) get their cars from? Where they sold new or are they ex-factory cars?
Don't know where the other teams got their Leons from!

At the end of the day everyone has to pay for their cars, even North & South! They don't get them for free!
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I thought GR Asia had bought at least 1 new car for Coronel this year. Don't know about the other cars though.
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Old 9 Dec 2007, 12:53 (Ref:2084828)   #356
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The Cost? I would have thought it would save them time and money not having to get new cars!?

I don't think you will see any other Leons in the BTCC apart from the 'Works Team'!
SEAT are obviously making and selling new Leons as people are buying them around the world. Surely they would make good money selling the year-old cars now and running brand new.

My understanding is that over time, chassis' lose their stiffness and the structure weakens. SEAT as a works team would surely want the 'freshest' chassis for themselves and have the more 'stale' chassis in the hands of their competitors.

What would make sense to me is if SEAT ran brand new cars in WTCC, using the year old cars in BTCC and selling off the used BTCC cars.
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Old 9 Dec 2007, 13:44 (Ref:2084842)   #357
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But is there any difference between the Leon TDI chassis and the Leon Petrol chassis though ...

T O-C to Robertshaw Chevy, maybe?

Or maybe not.
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Old 9 Dec 2007, 19:35 (Ref:2085014)   #358
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My understanding is that over time, chassis' lose their stiffness and the structure weakens. SEAT as a works team would surely want the 'freshest' chassis for themselves and have the more 'stale' chassis in the hands of their competitors.

What would make sense to me is if SEAT ran brand new cars in WTCC, using the year old cars in BTCC and selling off the used BTCC cars.
Yes, I totally agree with your view on how it should be!

But it looks like no one is buying the Leon!
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Old 9 Dec 2007, 20:50 (Ref:2085067)   #359
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The Leon is not for sale.
All the teams that run them lease them along with the engines and gearboxes.

At the end of the lease All cars are returned to spain or an approved team for rebuild.

There was a rumour that Seat would sell cars this year, but as far as i know, this has not happened yet.
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Mat Jackson has confirmed for next year in Priaulx's 2007 320Si on btcc.net here
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Old 10 Dec 2007, 15:13 (Ref:2085636)   #361
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And the Media Day will be at Rockingham again, Wednesday 12th March.
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Mat Jackson has confirmed for next year in Priaulx's 2007 320Si on btcc.net here
So is he keeping last years bmw for a 2nd driver or has he sold it on.

Maybe he keeping it for spares
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Old 10 Dec 2007, 17:08 (Ref:2085786)   #363
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Motorbase have got their hands on some BMWs as well... found some artists impressions hiding in the gallery on btcc.net (here and here)
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Motorbase have got their hands on some BMWs as well... found some artists impressions hiding in the gallery on btcc.net (here and here)
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Motorbase have got their hands on some BMWs as well... found some artists impressions hiding in the gallery on btcc.net (here and here)
Hope you saved them first - they're gone now
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Could be a hoax then? I'll believe this when I see it.
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Given that Motorbase's website now has a BMW at the top of it, they probably have something to announce on the matter soon.
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If they have. Let Motorbase announce it!
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Motorbase have got their hands on some BMWs as well... found some artists impressions hiding in the gallery on btcc.net (here and here)
Are they the ex-WTCC ones?

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=1643
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They have today on their home page
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Up-date!

DriverTeamCarLikely/notes?
F GiovanardiVauxhallVaux Vectraconfirmed
M NealVauxhallVaux Vectraconfirmed
C TurkingtonRACBMW 320siconfirmed
TBCRACBMW 320siconfirmed
J PlatoSEATSEAT Leonconfirmed
D TurnerSEATSEAT Leonconfirmed
R KerryAFMBMW 120dconfirmed
G SheddenDynamicsHonda Civic Mk 8confirmed
T ChiltonDynamicsHonda Civic Mk 8confirmed
A JordanEurotechHonda Integraconfirmed
M JordanEurotechHonda Integraconfirmed
ErkutArkasVaux Astra SHconfirmed
M JacksonJackson MSportBMW 320siconfirmed
J GeorgeTHHonda Integraconfirmed
H VaulkardRobertshawChevrolet Lacetticonfirmed
A TaylorRobertshawHonda Integraconfirmed
M DoyleR'shawHonda Civicconfirmed
TBCMotorbaseBMW 320siconfirmed
TBCMotorbaseBMW 320siconfirmed
TBCArkasVaux Astra SHPlans to run second car
Nick LeasonAFMBMW 120dwaiting confirmation
M BellBellTBCwaiting confirmation
K BurtBellTBCplan to run second car
TBCXeroLexus IS200waiting confirmation
C StocktonBTCLexus IS200Waiting confirmation
TBCBTCLexus IS200plan to run second car
D PinkneyA-TechAlfa 156waiting confirmation
TBCA-TechAlfa 156plan to run a second car
E MurrayQwestAlfa 156No recent news
J HughesKartworldTBCwaiting confirmation
TBCKartworldTBCwaiting confirmation
P LutiDread0MG ZSwaiting confirmation
S VickersOddballMazda 3Rumour
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Great news to see Motorbase running a pair of competitive cars. They had a lot of bad luck in 2007, but showed potential as a team. Are the drivers likely to require much funding? Otherwise maybe OC will end up here.
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