New FIA Formula Two series for 2009!! - Page 16

the sniper · 26 Feb 2009, 21:10 (Ref:2404909)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivanalesi

And the last remaining seat goes to the little experienced in formula racing, otherwise promising karter - Giorgio Pantano

Just joking, but it's strange how they don't announce the last guy for a week.

What's Antonio Pizzonia doing this year...

Alex K · 26 Feb 2009, 21:47 (Ref:2404925)

If Pizzonia joined the F2 field I'd say he has mental issues. Sorry sniper, for the guy with his experience and a record in Brazilian stock cars going down to F2 would be total stupidity.

Albeckinho · 27 Feb 2009, 09:05 (Ref:2405201)

Someone didn't spot sarcasm, did he?

Alex K · 27 Feb 2009, 10:40 (Ref:2405292)

Yeah I did mate ;-) I was in mood to write smt.

the sniper · 27 Feb 2009, 19:12 (Ref:2405590)

We were right, they were waiting to reveal a big name!

Milos Pavlovic

Oh sorry, I meant a name that I actually know.

Joking aside though he will be one of the more interesting drivers in F2, even if he has be in junior formula for 12 years...

And the full entry list courtesy of Autosport.com:

Code:

Driver               Nationality  Age  2008 season
Robert Wickens       Canadian     19   12th in WSR, 15th in Euro F3
Julien Jousse        French       23   2nd in WSR
Armaan Ebrahim       Indian       19   7th in FV6 Asia, also GP2 Asia
Jason Moore          British      20   Formula Palmer Audi champion
Tobias Hegewald      German       19   3rd in FRenault NEC, 5th in Euro
Natacha Gachnang     Swiss        21   3rd in Spanish F3
Sebastian Hohenthal  Swedish      24   7th in British F3
Pietro Gandolfi      Italian      21   26th in Swiss FRenault
Jolyon Palmer        British      18   3rd in Formula Palmer Audi
Alex Brundle         British      18   6th in Formula Palmer Audi
Henry Surtees        British      18   12th in FRenault UK
Jack Clarke          British      20   5th in Formula Palmer Audi
Nicola de Marco      Italian      18   4th in Spanish F3
Mikhail Aleshin      Russian      21   5th in WSR
Andy Soucek          Spanish      23   14th in GP2 and GP2 Asia
Carlos Iaconelli     Brazilian    21   28th in GP2
German Sanchez       Spanish      19   Spanish F3 champion
Kazim Vasiliauskas   Lithuanian   18   21st in Italian FRenault
Mirko Bortolotti     Italian      19   Italian F3 champion
Jens Hoing           German       22   17th in German F3
Philipp Eng          Austrian     18   11th in German F3 (part-season)
Henri Karjalainen    Finnish      23   17th in Atlantic
Tom Gladdis          British      18   6th in Star Mazda
Milos Pavlovic       Serbian      26   GP2 part-season

Mak · 27 Feb 2009, 20:09 (Ref:2405621)

Did not realise that the quality of drivers was so low until listed here with there 2008 results.

**chunterer** · 27 Feb 2009, 20:39 (Ref:2405639)

Pavlovic is only 26 then huh?

the sniper · 27 Feb 2009, 20:52 (Ref:2405653)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunterer

Pavlovic is only 26 then huh?

I'm glad you said that, I didn't think the numbers added up properly!

Unless he really was 14 when he did Formula Vauxhall...

kipper · 27 Feb 2009, 20:57 (Ref:2405658)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mak

Did not realise that the quality of drivers was so low until listed here with there 2008 results.

To be fair a couple of drivers only competed part seasons in '08, which obviously doesn't lead to an impressive placing in the final championship table.

Mind you, 26th in Swiss Formula Renault will never look impresssive...

**chunterer** · 27 Feb 2009, 20:58 (Ref:2405659)

Quite!

Mind you some have suggested an Australian F1 driver has fibbed about his real age but that's another story best not pursuing!!!!

the sniper · 27 Feb 2009, 21:06 (Ref:2405666)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper

Mind you, 26th in Swiss Formula Renault will never look impresssive...

strider · 27 Feb 2009, 21:20 (Ref:2405675)

I'm pleased for Milos; he's a lovely guy.

I'm glad the penny has finally dropped about the difference in quality between the drivers.

I know the same can be said of any formula, but this is an extreme case.

sceptic · 27 Feb 2009, 22:07 (Ref:2405706)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunterer

Quite!

Mind you some have suggested an Australian F1 driver has fibbed about his real age but that's another story best not pursuing!!!!

I'm sure there is already a thread about that.

ivanalesi · 27 Feb 2009, 23:03 (Ref:2405744)

I guessed it, almost. Little experienced in single seaters, promising karter

Good luck to Milos, he may actually be one of the main challengers because of his experience with different cars.

Bezzen · 27 Feb 2009, 23:21 (Ref:2405753)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunterer

Pavlovic is only 26 then huh?

He is!

He grew two years younger while getting in shape for the 2006 season!

2002 webpage:
http://web.archive.org/web/200206041...ic.com/bio.htm

2006 webpage:
http://web.archive.org/web/200607152...rofile/bio.asp

runshaw · 27 Feb 2009, 23:32 (Ref:2405758)

Whats all this about Pavlovic's age? Please clarify!

Bezzen · 27 Feb 2009, 23:35 (Ref:2405761)

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Originally Posted by runshaw

Whats all this about Pavlovic's age? Please clarify!

The two links I posted are copies from his homepage from different years. In 2002 and to the 2006 season he was born in 1980. Then from 2006 and onwards he states he was suddenly born in 1982.

runshaw · 27 Feb 2009, 23:38 (Ref:2405763)

Haha, so he is making himself look younger? Is there any need?! Age aside, he has a huge amount of experience, this title is his to win...

Bezzen · 27 Feb 2009, 23:45 (Ref:2405766)

Quote:

Originally Posted by runshaw

Haha, so he is making himself look younger?

Unless he made himself look older before.

Albeckinho · 28 Feb 2009, 07:42 (Ref:2405920)

But hey, if someone fails to pay the fee or something, we'll have a beautiful reserve driver jumping in... Emma Kimiläinen. I kid you not.

Alex K · 28 Feb 2009, 08:08 (Ref:2405930)

She'll do full season of FPA afaik.

Albeckinho · 28 Feb 2009, 09:40 (Ref:2405954)

I know, but she has said that she'll jump in to F2 if someone drops out.

Jimmy Magnusson · 28 Feb 2009, 11:40 (Ref:2406016)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sceptic

I'm sure there is already a thread about that.

Anyone have a link? I'm curious now.

Blitzer · 28 Feb 2009, 18:51 (Ref:2406114)

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...t=88487&page=1

As for Pavlovic, he has three birth dates: October 8, 1980, December 8, 1980 and October 8, 1982

ivanalesi · 28 Feb 2009, 20:22 (Ref:2406153)

Considering the way you get licenses here, you can become younger or older whatever times you want. I guess it's the same in Serbia. Actually Milos should try tin-tops of LMP racing if he has a good season in F2, they don't care about age as in F1.
Anyway, this age mania is stupid IMO. I listened to a podcast with the ex-Toleman team-chief Alex Hawkridge and he mentioned that Qinetiq have done some research on neurons at the buttocks, and the end result was that if you want to be fast - you need to start karting before 10! So, Williams as their partner, don't get drivers who have started later.
It is may be true, but it's just a small part of what makes the driver great, it's not the all important factor. They have explored a 1/10th of what makes a good driver/figther pilot, but they have just assumptions and "educated guesses" for the remaining 9/10ths.

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