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23 Oct 2023, 22:35 (Ref:4182702) | #401 | |
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Interesting format. I'd like to think I can see advantages and disadvantages, or have the ability to predict how it works out, But I can't. it's a 'suck it and see' type of thing for me.
One thing I'm fairly sure of is that a team will figure a way of running it better for the first few rounds, then everybody will copy. These things usually go like that! The thing is, the BTCC does depend on a decent amount of 'casual' fans - look at the YouTube viewing figures for qualifying, they just want to see the races, if that wasn't the case they'd be in the hundreds of thousands instead of a few thousand for some rounds and 50,000+ for others, so the majority won't care too much. If it doesn't shake up the races (which I very much doubt it would for the most part) they won't care. If the powers that be think a format change is needed somewhere, then I don't think they'll get the results they want from this, but it's enough to satisfy the mantra of 'we are progressing' to stop more extreme ideas like putting the reverse grid race (with places 10-16 drawn for pole) as the second race, with that one deciding the grid for R3!! |
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I still think having two quali sessions would be better and the times for one sorts the first race and the times for the other sorts race 2. I don’t think sorting the race 2 grid in the race 1 finishing order generates the best possible racing.
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I think they've missed a trick by not calling it the "Kwik Six". Would tie-in with the sponsor quite nicely.
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24 Oct 2023, 17:32 (Ref:4182828) | #406 | |
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Funnily enough, for at least half of the BTCC rounds this year I've found a set of four or five MK3 Capris on the way to the races pootling along in the middle lane, as you say, lazy and unimaginative - even when I'm a passenger in the wife's Yaris s she bombs past them at 65mph.....
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I see that TOCA are introducing an ''indy'' style qualifying system next year, leading to a top six shoot out. Could be interesting?
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30 Oct 2023, 11:08 (Ref:4183674) | #409 | ||
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All cars to receive double amount of hybrid-turbo boost next season
https://www.btcc.net/2023/10/30/btcc...BSwR2uH2j8pEP8 |
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30 Oct 2023, 11:14 (Ref:4183676) | #410 | |
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It’d be interesting to see some actual numbers, because they must be approaching the point where its impossible to make more power work with FWD.
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Not sure if I'm happy with this tweak. I understand the races were not as 'action-packed' in the last two years as before but I'm afraid the 'artificial aspect' will return next year with the best drivers struggling to defend their podium positions and needing to salvage for 4-5th position in most races. With this overtaking can simply be passing with no opportunity to fight. Perhaps pleasing for those who want to see action for action's sake but not necessarily for me. Hopefully the difference will not be so big but I'm sceptical at the moment.
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That’s the old engine though and I can’t imagine giving a real number, more or a conservative guess. Either way, that “370bhp” plus the 80bhp from doubling the current hybrid is 450bhp. That’s A LOT. |
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I'll reserve my full judgement on the impact it'll have on racing action until April 2024, but for now I think its good to see a willingness from BTCC stakeholders to experiment. |
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According to a quote from when Cosworth were developing the system, they took the figure of 40 bhp for 15 seconds and worked backward to decide battery capacity, battery voltage, type of electric motors, how much re-gen was required, etc.
Doubling the output is more than just turning a dial. I wonder how much surplus capacity was in the original design or if it will require hardware changes to achieve. |
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It will (as currently) only be available above a certain speed and gearing point, when the traction has already been established.
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I missed that too. It’s good news that they’ve gone that way with it, additional boost is free, more hybrid would have had to come with a weight penalty.
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Appreciate that but even in a perfect scenario there’s a limit to how much power the tyre can cope with. Put 800bhp through it and it won’t manage. At some point above the currently power levels, it’ll be a traction issue regardless of any variables like speed.
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So, along with the electrical power boost, the drivers will also have additional power provided by more turbo boost at the same time?
This should lead to some topsy-turvey race results! |
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