BTCC BTCC 2023 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 17

billy bleach · 11 Oct 2022, 08:29 (Ref:4129845)

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Originally Posted by SSmith

An interesting article about ROKIT - seems like a very dodgy company and its in massive debt.

https://variety.com/2022/biz/news/ro...es-1235398095/

One does have to wonder how much longer they will be sponsoring racing teams.

Got the smell of Rich Energy about it BTCC programme doesn't even get a mention!

Craner Curves · 11 Oct 2022, 09:03 (Ref:4129853)

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Originally Posted by billy bleach

Got the smell of Rich Energy about it BTCC programme doesn't even get a mention!

It mentioned "niche". That's the BTCC.

billy bleach · 11 Oct 2022, 09:36 (Ref:4129859)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

It mentioned "niche". That's the BTCC.

My point exactly When people get wound up by the perceived level of TV coverage it should be remembered

AnnoyedMoose · 11 Oct 2022, 11:11 (Ref:4129871)

I would have been more surprised if an article from an American media (Jay Penske owned) company mentioned the BTCC.

redshoes · 11 Oct 2022, 18:55 (Ref:4129941)

In non-BTCC news, coronation will be help on Sat 6th May
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63172425

That's the same weekend that BTCC is at Brands Hatch. Will we see qualifying and Sat support races cancelled, as happened for Diana's funeral, or will the meeting get re-scheduled?

Mike Harte · 11 Oct 2022, 19:05 (Ref:4129942)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

In non-BTCC news, coronation will be help on Sat 6th May
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63172425

That's the same weekend that BTCC is at Brands Hatch. Will we see qualifying and Sat support races cancelled, as happened for Diana's funeral, or will the meeting get re-scheduled?

It's also the FA Cup Final at Wembley! I wonder which event will get the most prominent TV profile?

redshoes · 11 Oct 2022, 19:11 (Ref:4129943)

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Originally Posted by Mike Harte

It's also the FA Cup Final at Wembley!

Cup Final is 3rd June. That was the date 'leaked' by the Sun.

Actual date announced by Buck House is 6th May

crmalcolm · 11 Oct 2022, 19:19 (Ref:4129946)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

In non-BTCC news, coronation will be help on Sat 6th May
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63172425

That's the same weekend that BTCC is at Brands Hatch. Will we see qualifying and Sat support races cancelled, as happened for Diana's funeral, or will the meeting get re-scheduled?

Early talk is that the entire proceedings will last around an hour. So I would expect the Saturday to be adjusted around the timings. Possibly a 90minute 'break'?

Evantra · 13 Oct 2022, 09:07 (Ref:4130102)

Quote from Dan Lloyd -

“I don’t know where I’ll be yet, I’ve just got to pick the right deal for me. I won’t put myself under this financial pressure again next year. I don’t know what that means or where we’ll be, but we’ll see how the next few weeks go."

'I won’t put myself under this financial pressure again next year' - is that in reference to his accident, or he is outstretching himself at Excerl8? Not another one destined for HARD

Evantra · 13 Oct 2022, 09:59 (Ref:4130106)

...and Thompson on next year:

'Thompson says this will most likely be via remaining at Team Hard for 2023, and believes there is more pace to unlock from the Cupra.

“There are lots of rumours – the silly season has started extra-early this year,” he said.

“Of course we all know each other [the teams and drivers], but there’s no need to go anywhere else – these guys have given me a top-10 car each weekend."

antnee · 13 Oct 2022, 10:35 (Ref:4130108)

Butcher hoping to stay with Speedworks too - https://www.touringcartimes.com/2022...n-toyota-seat/

redshoes · 13 Oct 2022, 11:38 (Ref:4130111)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

'I won’t put myself under this financial pressure again next year' - is that in reference to his accident, or he is outstretching himself at Excerl8?

Pretty sure that's s reference to the accident. He was left trying to find almost £100K and only finished the year thanks to Bristol Street Motors stepping in at the last minute.

Pickles · 13 Oct 2022, 18:45 (Ref:4130147)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Quote from Dan Lloyd -

“I don’t know where I’ll be yet, I’ve just got to pick the right deal for me. I won’t put myself under this financial pressure again next year. I don’t know what that means or where we’ll be, but we’ll see how the next few weeks go."

'I won’t put myself under this financial pressure again next year' - is that in reference to his accident, or he is outstretching himself at Excerl8? Not another one destined for HARD

Possibly hinting that he doesn't want to be getting charged £100k for a £60k damage bill again

**touringlegend** · 13 Oct 2022, 21:44 (Ref:4130159)

I believe Exceler8 are one of the dearer teams so that wouldn’t surprise me.

thetool · 13 Oct 2022, 22:38 (Ref:4130160)

Going to be interesting to see what Dynamics are doing over the winter. The Honda clearly isn't the package it once was, more because the quality of the opposition has improved than it has got worse - but the FK8 is widely considered to be an inferior package to the FK2. Dynamics has been extremely loyal to Honda, with and without formal works backing. I wonder if the new Civic Type-R could be on the agenda? Not really a lot of other choice Honda wise for UK-based models these days.

aland · 14 Oct 2022, 08:20 (Ref:4130194)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

I believe Exceler8 are one of the dearer teams so that wouldn’t surprise me.

you get what you pay for plus to the team owners it is a business

antnee · 14 Oct 2022, 08:38 (Ref:4130200)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

I believe Exceler8 are one of the dearer teams so that wouldn’t surprise me.

Given they have one of the quickest and most consistent cars, it is no surprise they are asking strong money to drive one.

Are we going to see a potential shift in the pecking order, the likes of Exceler8 seem to have the business model nailed, 4 well turned out cars, own engine development along with 3 good drivers, pulling in some great sponsorship across the board too. Where as Dynamics have been strong over the last 20 years, it was born from Matt starting as a privateer, doing really well and then getting some OEM support. With Matt stepping away along with Honda, it is a radically different operation to 3 years ago - will they be able to turn it around?

auroan · 14 Oct 2022, 09:09 (Ref:4130207)

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Originally Posted by antnee

Given they have one of the quickest and most consistent cars, it is no surprise they are asking strong money to drive one.

Are we going to see a potential shift in the pecking order, the likes of Exceler8 seem to have the business model nailed, 4 well turned out cars, own engine development along with 3 good drivers, pulling in some great sponsorship across the board too. Where as Dynamics have been strong over the last 20 years, it was born from Matt starting as a privateer, doing really well and then getting some OEM support. With Matt stepping away along with Honda, it is a radically different operation to 3 years ago - will they be able to turn it around?

Matt hasn't stepped away though. He's just not driving. I don't see how him not driving has any reflection in team operation.

S griffin · 14 Oct 2022, 09:10 (Ref:4130209)

I doubt we will see Matt back though. He's probably secretly realises his days of racing are over

Robin Marriott · 14 Oct 2022, 09:30 (Ref:4130218)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

I believe Exceler8 are one of the dearer teams so that wouldn’t surprise me.

Good chance they’ll put their prices up next year now they’re seen by everyone as a top team, not a new team.

crmalcolm · 14 Oct 2022, 10:52 (Ref:4130232)

2022 TBL	Team	Car	Driver	Status	Jack Sears
EXCELR8-1	Bristol Street Motors with EXCELR8 TradePriceCars.com	Hyundai i30 Fastback N	Ingram	Confirmed in press release	Inel.
EXCELR8-2	Bristol Street Motors with EXCELR8 TradePriceCars.com	Hyundai i30 Fastback N	Chilton	Confirmed in press release	Inel.
EXCELR8-3	Excelr8	Hyundai i30 Fastback N	Lloyd?	Talked about being confident of 2023 drive	Inel.
EXCELR8-4	Excelr8	Hyundai i30 Fastback N	???		???
Team Dynamics-1
Team Dynamics-2
Aiden Moffat-1	Laser Tools?	???	Moffat?	Infiniti described as being end of life by the team	Inel.
Aiden Moffat-2	Laser Tools?	???	???	Infiniti described as being end of life by the team	???
Motorbase-1	NAPA Racing	???	Sutton	Confirmed as 3-year deal in press release, talk of new build car	Inel.
Motorbase-2	NAPA Racing	???	Cammish	Confirmed as 3-year deal in press release, talk of new build car	Inel.
Motorbase-3
Motorbase-4
HARD.-1	HARD.	Cupra?	Taylor-Smith	Confirmed as multi-year in press release	Inel.
HARD.-2	HARD.	Cupra?	Thompson?	Talked about his next year in the car	Inel.
HARD.-3
Speedworks-1	Toyota Gazoo Racing UK?	Corolla?	Butcher?	Talked about wanting another year with the team	Inel.
Speedworks-2
WSR-1
WSR-2
WSR-3
Ciceley-1
Ciceley-2
PMR-1	PMR	Astra?	Hand	Confirmed as multi-year in press release	Elig.
PMR-2
BTC-1
BTC-2
BTC-3
Boardley-1	???	???	Boardley?	Has described 2022 as a sabbatical	Elig.
Boardley-2
TOCA-1
TOCA-2
TOCA-3
???	Graves Motorsport?	???	Max Coates?	Outlined plans for an entry in 2021	Elig.
???	Parker Motorsport?	Alfa Giulia?	???	Press release states a planned return after hybrid is introduced	???
???	Parker Motorsport?	Alfa Giulia?	???	Press release states a planned return after hybrid is introduced	???
???	MB Motorsport	???	Hill?	Talked about a 2-car entry for 2023	Inel.
???	MB Motorsport	???	???	Talked about a 2-car entry for 2023	???
???	Bert Taylor Racing	???	???	Talked about getting a TBL for 2023	???
???	???	???	Proctor?	Has described 2022 as a sabbatical	Inel.
???	???	???	Oliphant?	Has said he his looking at racing in 2023, in UK or Aus	Inel.
???	???	???	Smelt?	Has described 2022 as a sabbatical	Elig.
???	Volvo	Kia	T.Harvey	Rumoured in threads every year, has to be true one day	Inel.

As always, if there is more information to be added, or something is incorrect please advise and I will update accordingly.
Likewise - if you have a source confirming an entry (or non-entry) that is much appreciated.

porsche962fan · 14 Oct 2022, 12:45 (Ref:4130257)

you sure are in a hurry !

**touringlegend** · 14 Oct 2022, 16:40 (Ref:4130293)

Does anyone else think BTC racing may be looking at new cars?

They obviously aren’t happy with how the M sport engine does in the Civic. There are no guarantees it’d be any different next year either.

billy bleach · 14 Oct 2022, 16:52 (Ref:4130294)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

Does anyone else think BTC racing may be looking at new cars?

They obviously aren’t happy with how the M sport engine does in the Civic. There are no guarantees it’d be any different next year either.

Mad thought - they could use Honda motors? Is anybody happy with the MSPORT motor?

Jon411 · 14 Oct 2022, 17:39 (Ref:4130296)

Motorbase's talks with Audi have ended (more info in the article about possible Merc C-Class and time running out and whether to stay with the Focus):

https://www.autosport.com/btcc/news/...kids/10384355/

Jake Hill looks set to stay with WSR (credit to WonderWoman61 from the Autosport forum for posting the original link on there):

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/maidsto...season-274972/

I wonder if WTCR disappearing as a championship will have any impact if the right deal came along for Huff for example.

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