Grp C/Grp A/V8SC 'Where are they now?' continued...

[Falcadore]

DJR still owns their winningest car. Bob Tweedie owns a an ex-Seton Sierra, possibly two.

[Henry]

SOmeone said that Bowdens have an ex-DJR car (the 88 ATCC winner?)...

[William Dale Jr]

The Tweedie car either was for sale or has been sold, along with all the spares. There used to be another B&H car in the museum at Morwell (the LHD car that was the spare for Bathurst 1988). IIRC, the Bowden's do have an ex-DJR car, but I don't know which one. Another of the ex-DJR cars was for sale in Unique cars, but that was a good couple of years ago now.

[Camaroz]

The Hintons (Qld) have a DJR, One of the Seto cars was at CLIPSAL. Apparently Brian Sala has just sold an ex-B&H (Wolf) car, there was another B&H car at the Touring Car Festival at Oran Park in April, I heard that Peter Champion has an '05' Sierra so that would make a few of them still in the country!

[GTRMagic]

Ahhh but where did Moff's Eggenberger cars end up? They were the jewels worthy of keeping, and hardly did a day's work in their lives.... the 1989 car especially

[Razor]

Well, where is the 05 VY HRT Commodore used by Jason Plato and Peter Brock last year?

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Greg Barton

Well, where is the 05 VY HRT Commodore used by Jason Plato and Peter Brock last year?

Simsmetal?? Or should that be Wastecorp, to support a motor racing sponsor?

[pete60]

Originally Posted by Greg Barton

Well, where is the 05 VY HRT Commodore used by Jason Plato and Peter Brock last year?

The 2 HRT chassis from last year went to HSV Racing....I think the 05 machine is now in the hands of Rick Kelly.

[jd yort]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Ahhh but where did Moff's Eggenberger cars end up? They were the jewels worthy of keeping, and hardly did a day's work in their lives.... the 1989 car especially

Hey GTR,
I remember a few months a go there way a guy from the UK who posted on here that he had just bought one of the ANZ Sierra's as well as owning a few others including a Texaco sponsored Sierra. I don't know if that was the 89 car though.

[William Dale Jr]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Ahhh but where did Moff's Eggenberger cars end up? They were the jewels worthy of keeping, and hardly did a day's work in their lives.... the 1989 car especially

I think I read somewhere that one car ended up in NZ. IIRC, most of the contents of the other car went into the Cenovis Falcon.

[DAVID PATERSON]

Originally Posted by William Dale Jr

I think I read somewhere that one car ended up in NZ. IIRC, most of the contents of the other car went into the Cenovis Falcon.

I can't think of too many Group A sierra parts that would fit a V8 Supercar, maybe the dash, the seat, the gearbox, nothing else i can think of.

[DAVID PATERSON]

Originally Posted by Greg Barton

Well, where is the 05 VY HRT Commodore used by Jason Plato and Peter Brock last year?

Sadly, PB didn't get to use it!

The great irony is that he didn't drive the XU-1 in The Historic Touring Car support races in order to concentrate on the 1000.

[racer69]

Originally Posted by jd yort

Hey GTR,
I remember a few months a go there way a guy from the UK who posted on here that he had just bought one of the ANZ Sierra's as well as owning a few others including a Texaco sponsored Sierra. I don't know if that was the 89 car though.

That car was the ANZ Rouse car from 1987, Moffat went with Eggenberger in 1988.


There were plenty of Sierra's out there;

- Colin Bond's cars
- Kevin Waldock's
- Andrew Miedecke's (Did he take his car Mobil Racing in 1990)
- Ray Lintott's ex-DJR car
- Andrew Bagnall's car
etc etc etc

[Razor]

Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

Sadly, PB didn't get to use it!

Peter Brock did drive the #05 VY, just not in the actual Bathurst race. Brock used the VY in practise and qualfying and he used it in the Sandown 500.

[William Dale Jr]

Originally Posted by racer69

- Andrew Miedecke's (Did he take his car Mobil Racing in 1990)

Yes, but not until the middle of the year. The Kenwood car was for sale for most of the first half of 1990, before the car was bought by Mobil 1 Racing. RCN suggested the car was bought with the intention of using it as a showcar, but I think the car saw use at either the AGP or at the Eastern Creek 500.

Incidentally, RCN reported that the car ran by the Brock team for Tony Noske in 1990 was the ex-Brad Jones 1989 car rebuilt after Barry Sheene crashed it at Winton. Don't know if it was re-shelled or not.

As for finding the real Brock Sierras, at least one of the ex-Rouse cars survived active duty intact and Rouse gave all his cars ARE chassis numbers...

[racer69]

It is interesting that after Miedecke's accident at Mallala, he didn't run the last two rounds at Wanneroo and Oran Park, even though seemingly they had some spare cars.

[Falcadore]

Cars, but not budget. Same thing happenned two years later to the team's second car when Neil Crompton was the number two, even with the supposedly cheaper to run VN's. While the budget was spent upgrading the 05 to VP specs Neil's ride was cut, and Cromley was off to another team before the car was finished leading Miedecke to be drafted back into the team again.

A shame, but a blessing in disguise for Cromley, but for a little luck he would have won Bathurst in the car he subsequantly picked up.

[paydirt]

An ex-Colin Bond Caltex Sierra finished up in the hands of Ron O'Brien (O'Brien Aluminium.) He ran it as a Sports Sedan with a V6 Buick engine for many years.

[krypto71]

For those interested, the latest edition of Australian Muscle Car magazine has an article on the 98 Bathurst winning Pirtek Falcon. Still owned by Craig Harris, it looks good repainted in Pirtek colours.

[pete60]

Craig has quite a collection of cars..the Pirtek Falcon, a DJR AU, a couple of old Dick Johnson XC Falcons, the ex Bill O'Brien/Bob Morris XD, the King George Tavern XE, a couple of Capris and more.

[Group'C']

Here are some Sierra's that I know are still about

Andy Lloyd (UK) ex DJR
Gary Hinton (QLD) ex DJR
Bowdens (QLD) ex DJR
Dick Johnson(QLD) ex DJR

Peter Champion (QLD) ex Brock (ex Willie Van Wersch)

Sims Brothers (TAS) ex Glenn Seton
Bob Tweedie (NSW) ex Glenn Seton
(Vic) ex Glenn seton (at Clipsal 500 05)

Bathurst Museum (NSW) ex B&H
(NSW) ex B&H (wolf car? was at Clipsal 500 05)

(UK) ex ANZ (Yes the bloke did have a few others)

Ron O'Brien (NSW) Ex Caltex
Mike Ceveri (Vic) could be ex Brock or ex Seton has been built into S/Sedan

I'm sure in here some were there is a list some one else has done

[Group'C']

Hasn't Craig's father got a bit to do with these cars?

[William Dale Jr]

The Mike Ceveri car was the OXO Supercube car that Don Smith rolled in practice for 1987 Sandown 500 after Andrew Miedecke had put the car on the pole. The car that replaced it was the car that Miedecke used for 1988 and was destined for Kevin Waldock when it was burnt out in the Lakeside crash.

Andy Lloyd has DJR1, the car used by Dick in 1987 and by John Bowe in 1988. This was the lone DJR car to make it to the finish at Bathurst in 1988. It was this car, in Dick's hands at Adelaide International Raceway, that supposedly scored the first major touring car victory for the Sierra RS Cosworth anywhere in the world. I'd like to see if that's true or not; it definitely beat the Eggenberger cars to the punch in the WTCC, don't have results from the BTCC or the DTM; anyone?

The B&H car at the Clipsal was the LHD Longhurst-built car that sat in the garage at Bathurst in 1988. Wasn't the Seton Sierra at the Clipsal the ex-Bob Tweedie car? I thought there were only ever two Glenn Seton Racing Sierras in existence at any one time.

[Group'C']

apparently there is 3 Seton cars, the bloke who had the one at the clipsal had all the info

[jd yort]

Where is the Ceveri Sports Sedan Sierra now?? I have not seen that run for a very very very long time. It was white with Esso sponsorship last time I saw it if I recall correctly.