2016 Rolex 24 Entry List - Page 17

merlot brougham · 20 Jan 2016, 15:55 (Ref:3606595)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

The only memorable thing about Grand-Am GT were the screaming engines in Mazda RX-8s. Watching onboards on those were like doing some chalkboard scraping for fun. Oh the pain, the pain of it all! But it was sort of mesmerizing pain...

While I appreciate the engineering and unconventional thinking of the rotary it always impressed me as a bit of a Harley Davidson. You hear a ridiculous racket and turn around to see something going a LOT slower than the noise would imply.

fieldodreams79 · 20 Jan 2016, 15:58 (Ref:3606596)

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Originally Posted by merlot brougham

While I appreciate the engineering and unconventional thinking of the rotary it always impressed me as a bit of a Harley Davidson. You hear a ridiculous racket and turn around to see something going a LOT slower than the noise would imply.

Jim Downing brought a Kudzu Mazda to Road Atlanta for either the ATL GP or PLM (I think it was Jim; 4 rotor nonetheless). I commented on the baffling nature of how something could be SO loud, yet SO slow at the same time.

Deleted · 20 Jan 2016, 16:04 (Ref:3606597)

I guess Formula E is the opposite end of the same spectrum

Matt · 20 Jan 2016, 16:20 (Ref:3606601)

Bring back the rotary pls.

fieldodreams79 · 20 Jan 2016, 16:33 (Ref:3606606)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Bring back the rotary pls.

I know one person that hates them. I've always dug them.

Here's Jim's Monsters:

http://www.racingsportscars.com/driv...SA.html?page=8

The red and green ones are the ones that I can recall at Road ATL being on the verge of completely unbearable to deal with without "layers" of ear protection.

Matt · 20 Jan 2016, 16:54 (Ref:3606612)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

I know one person that hates them. I've always dug them.

Here's Jim's Monsters:

http://www.racingsportscars.com/driv...SA.html?page=8

The red and green ones are the ones that I can recall at Road ATL being on the verge of completely unbearable to deal with without "layers" of ear protection.

Because I'm silly, I'd love to see a return of the AGT class just to have a chance at seeing a flame spitting rotary out there again, haha.

BullMan · 20 Jan 2016, 19:15 (Ref:3606656)

Still watching the 2008 Rolex. This car just showed up. It's not that bad looking from that angle. The only notable thing this car ever did was blindly come back onto the circuit at Miller and flip one of the Mazdas.

**joeb** · 20 Jan 2016, 19:19 (Ref:3606660)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Jim Downing brought a Kudzu Mazda to Road Atlanta for either the ATL GP or PLM (I think it was Jim; 4 rotor nonetheless). I commented on the baffling nature of how something could be SO loud, yet SO slow at the same time.

I'll never forget the sounds of the last Mazda 792p screaming through the forest down into Turn 5 at Road America. I think that is when my tinnitus started!

JHamilton · 20 Jan 2016, 19:27 (Ref:3606667)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

I know one person that hates them. I've always dug them.

Here's Jim's Monsters:

http://www.racingsportscars.com/driv...SA.html?page=8

The red and green ones are the ones that I can recall at Road ATL being on the verge of completely unbearable to deal with without "layers" of ear protection.

Ban them!

Those 4 rotors are the scourge of the earth. They eat oil like a two-cycle, run incredibly hot, get terrible fuel mileage, and they sound like a bear stuck in a wood chipper. That sound gets through my ear protection and bounces around my empty head for days!

If y'all like 'em that's cool... I guess.

fieldodreams79 · 20 Jan 2016, 19:31 (Ref:3606669)

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Originally Posted by JHamilton

Ban them!

Those 4 rotors are the scourge of the earth. They eat oil like a two-cycle, run incredibly hot, get terrible fuel mileage, and they sound like a bear stuck in a wood chipper. That sound gets through my ear protection and bounces around my empty head for days!

If y'all like 'em that's cool... I guess.

Tell us what you really think!

BullMan · 20 Jan 2016, 19:42 (Ref:3606673)

We had that rotary Mazda P2 car at PLM one year. That was the year I forgot my earplugs. God that hurt, standing next to the turn 10 bridge as it went by.

Matt · 20 Jan 2016, 19:52 (Ref:3606677)

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Originally Posted by BullMan

Still watching the 2008 Rolex. This car just showed up. It's not that bad looking from that angle. The only notable thing this car ever did was blindly come back onto the circuit at Miller and flip one of the Mazdas.

Ahh yes, the Chase was a very attractive looking car. A bit Mosler-esque.

Also, all the DP cars needed the giant endplates like the current ones have, helps visually balance the things.

CyberMotor · 20 Jan 2016, 20:24 (Ref:3606685)

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Originally Posted by JHamilton

Ban them!

Those 4 rotors are the scourge of the earth. They eat oil like a two-cycle, run incredibly hot, get terrible fuel mileage, and they sound like a bear stuck in a wood chipper. That sound gets through my ear protection and bounces around my empty head for days!

If y'all like 'em that's cool... I guess.

I thought that the 3 rotor was the loudest. If I remember correctly, I kept confusing the engine sound of the 4 rotor as it approached sounding like a V12. I'm still missing fillings in my teeth from the sound of the 3 rotors! Also remember that big tail pipe that looked like a scorpion's tail to me glowing red and white hot. Without valves in the rotary, the explosions inside the engine were very close to the exhaust.

fieldodreams79 · 20 Jan 2016, 21:09 (Ref:3606700)

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Originally Posted by BullMan

We had that rotary Mazda P2 car at PLM one year. That was the year I forgot my earplugs. God that hurt, standing next to the turn 10 bridge as it went by.

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Originally Posted by CyberMotor

I thought that the 3 rotor was the loudest. If I remember correctly, I kept confusing the engine sound of the 4 rotor as it approached sounding like a V12. I'm still missing fillings in my teeth from the sound of the 3 rotors! Also remember that big tail pipe that looked like a scorpion's tail to me glowing red and white hot. Without valves in the rotary, the explosions inside the engine were very close to the exhaust.

Several of the LMP675s had Mazda power at PLM, but I can't put my finger on the 2 rotors. This was my favorite looking one:

You can close your eyes and play which Mazda is the best (or worst); you may need to because the visual makes me dizzy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl-ZJMane_U

It's JHamilton's personal hell

. This race reminded me how "loud" the R8 was compared to her successors. We thought it was quiet compared to Mazdas, Cadillacs, Panoz and R&Ss.

Kudzu at Daytona:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIF4qYNu-Bk

BullMan · 20 Jan 2016, 21:44 (Ref:3606712)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Several of the LMP675s had Mazda power at PLM, but I can't put my finger on the 2 rotors. This was my favorite looking one:

You can close your eyes and play which Mazda is the best (or worst); you may need to because the visual makes me dizzy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl-ZJMane_U

It's JHamilton's personal hell

. This race reminded me how "loud" the R8 was compared to her successors. We thought it was quiet compared to Mazdas, Cadillacs, Panoz and R&Ss.

Kudzu at Daytona:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIF4qYNu-Bk

This may have been it?

fieldodreams79 · 20 Jan 2016, 21:50 (Ref:3606714)

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Originally Posted by BullMan

This may have been it?

Ah yes! I recall that one. Mild when compared to the Kudzus.

Lanky Turtle · 20 Jan 2016, 21:53 (Ref:3606716)

I always thought the 4 rotors sounded nice with that high pitched wail. The 3 rotor was loud but still sounded good, but the 2 rotor that ran IMSA Lights back in the 80's was the real eardrum rattler. It was real buzzy sounding and was literally THE loudest thing I have ever heard, coming from a guy who's seen bands like Motorhead and Ministry from the front of the stage.

fieldodreams79 · 20 Jan 2016, 22:26 (Ref:3606726)

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Originally Posted by Lanky Turtle

I always thought the 4 rotors sounded nice with that high pitched wail. The 3 rotor was loud but still sounded good, but the 2 rotor that ran IMSA Lights back in the 80's was the real eardrum rattler. It was real buzzy sounding and was literally THE loudest thing I have ever heard, coming from a guy who's seen bands like Motorhead and Ministry from the front of the stage.

Hmmm, the amounts of beverages consumed at circuits may have influenced my identifications of rotary engines. I've always thought the 4s were the loudest, the pitch being similar to Judd V10s.

Lanky Turtle · 20 Jan 2016, 22:47 (Ref:3606732)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Hmmm, the amounts of beverages consumed at circuits may have influenced my identifications of rotary engines. I've always thought the 4s were the loudest, the pitch being similar to Judd V10s.

Yeah they're loud as hell but they sound nice, as does a Judd V10 to my ear. I think they're loud in different frequencies, the 4 rotor in high frequencies like a singing siren, and the 2 rotor at the same frequency that the end of a trumpet vibrates at.

JHamilton · 21 Jan 2016, 02:10 (Ref:3606746)

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Originally Posted by BullMan

This may have been it?

Yeh, the Speedsource Courage. That had a 3 rotor I believe.

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Ah yes! I recall that one. Mild when compared to the Kudzus.

"How can something so loud be so slow?" - Fieldodreams79

And comparing a rotory to a Judd V10 is blasphemous!

FormulaFox · 21 Jan 2016, 02:43 (Ref:3606750)

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Originally Posted by JHamilton

Yeh, the Speedsource Courage. That had a 3 rotor I believe.

B-K Motorsports, not Speedsource.

**joeb** · 21 Jan 2016, 03:10 (Ref:3606756)

Or this:

JHamilton · 21 Jan 2016, 03:35 (Ref:3606761)

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Originally Posted by FormulaFox

B-K Motorsports, not Speedsource.

Thank you! I was trying to think of that all afternoon!

**Adam43** · 21 Jan 2016, 20:33 (Ref:3606952)

I'm in the not nice sound camp. Loud, interestingly different, but not a pleasing sound.

Accident · 21 Jan 2016, 23:43 (Ref:3607007)

The 3 and 4 rotors have a cool sound at idle at least.

Never had a chance to be trackside to hear any of them, but I know most of them are awful to drive for more than a few minutes in sim racing games.

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