2024 Season - News and Rumours

[Greem]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

Any place the public is allowed to comment that is brought up but would the guys funding the WEC/IMSA deal want to take him on too?

One would assume that Stroll Senior would make it worth their while.

[bathurst77]

As to combined F1/moto events. Why would you take two sell out events and turn them into 1? Sounds like youre hslving your revenue

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

Any place the public is allowed to comment that is brought up but would the guys funding the WEC/IMSA deal want to take him on too?

A lot of drivers who couldn’t cut it in F1 have become superstars in the WEC/Le Mans world.Stroll is around the level of a number of those drivers.

[GTRMagic]

Mr Steiner Sues Haas For Non Payment of Compensation

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by Alan52

A lot of drivers who couldn’t cut it in F1 have become superstars in the WEC/Le Mans world.Stroll is around the level of a number of those drivers.

Stroll sharing a car and being a team player? Hmm

[Tourer]

Looks like Logan Sargeant's F1 driver career is close to completion.

Of course, much speculation on who might get the seat.

[Skam85]

If he's out for Imola, that's a bit of a sadly poetic end to his career. In the wall in his home race.

[Sandgroper]

So has Perez been offered a 1 year deal or not? Thats what was promoted on 1 website but Perez has requested 2 x years

I cant see any movement with Red Bull or the Sister team next year.

I think both will run same drivers as 2024

[Skam85]

Originally Posted by Sandgroper

So has Perez been offered a 1 year deal or not? Thats what was promoted on 1 website but Perez has requested 2 x years

I cant see any movement with Red Bull or the Sister team next year.

I think both will run same drivers as 2024

Where does that leave Lawson? He becomes a free agent if they don't give him a race drive, and they clearly rate him.

I'm not sure progressing with a 35yr old Ricciardo whose best is clearly behind him, while letting Lawson walk is the smartest move.

[P38 in workshop]

Originally Posted by Skam85

Where does that leave Lawson? He becomes a free agent if they don't give him a race drive, and they clearly rate him.

I'm not sure progressing with a 35yr old Ricciardo whose best is clearly behind him, while letting Lawson walk is the smartest move.

Hard to disagree,but stranger things have been known.

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by Skam85

Where does that leave Lawson? He becomes a free agent if they don't give him a race drive, and they clearly rate him.

I'm not sure progressing with a 35yr old Ricciardo whose best is clearly behind him, while letting Lawson walk is the smartest move.

Rumours are he's been guaranteed a race drive by 2025 at the latest.

[Rusty Nail]

A water tight contract, I believe. Done a wee while ago.

[Richard C]

If Red Bull is looking to keep Perez for just one year, I see it as them signaling they are kicking the can down the road regarding who to partner with Max. So they are not ready or willing to move up Ricciardo or Tsunoda next year (which doesn't surprise me at all). It also seems they don't have options for other existing drivers on the grid or someone like Lawson who looks promising. But they are keeping options open for 2026.

I think Tsunoda has been making big improvements, but I can see logic in having him continue to develop and mature in VCARB for another year. I can imagine at one level Tsunoda is in the team due to Honda, but he is showing enough speed that he may have a future beyond Honda backing? I think Tsunoda's biggest issue is maturity and not lack of speed and hopefully as time passes the maturity will continue to come to him.

With Ricciardo it just seems to be a long wait to see if he will get his mojo back. It was nice to see Ricciardo do well at the Miami sprint, but it seems like his problem is lack of consistently good performance. That overall Tsunoda continues to out perform him most of the time. So if Ricciardo is inconsistent, is this not the main criticism of Perez? Why replace Perez with another Perez and potentially a worse version of him? And while we are approaching 1/3rd of the way through this season, do we expect the character of Ricciardo's performance to change at this stage in his career?

If Red Bull is offering Perez a one year contract and he is playing chicken and wants a two year one instead. I can imagine Red Bull calling his bluff. Take the one year or nothing. If Perez walks (would be dumb on his part), I think Red Bull would gamble and put Tsunoda in the car for just a year (or maybe Lawson!), but that is not what they want to do. What I think they want to do is keep Tsunoda at VCARB next year, replace Ricciardo with Lawson and then re-evaluate for 2026 with respect to Tsunoda (is he tracking in right direction) or Lawson (is he the real deal) moving up to partner with Max at Red Bull in 2026, or if they might find an existing driver (no idea what the market looks like for 2026 with respect to open contracts). And if Lawson has a contract with Red Bull (for Red Bull to place him in either team) for for 2025, this makes sense.

Richard

[Moneyseeker]

Tsunoda to Aston I think with Honda coming later. Stroll out. Ricciardo stays at RB alongside Lawson, would be my guess.

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[peebee2]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard anybody from Red Bull rate Yuki highly.

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by Moneyseeker

Tsunoda to Aston I think with Honda coming later. Stroll out. Ricciardo stays at RB alongside Lawson, would be my guess.

Tsunodo to Aston makes sense given the Honda link. Especially in 2026. But when is Lance going to vacate his seat?

Richard

[Moneyseeker]

Originally Posted by Richard C

Tsunodo to Aston makes sense given the Honda link. Especially in 2026. But when is Lance going to vacate his seat?



Richard

End of 2024 I reckon, Laurence will buy him another toy to occupy him, or he may move to the WEC Valkarie project, before it gets going.

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[Alan52]

Originally Posted by Moneyseeker

End of 2024 I reckon, Laurence will buy him another toy to occupy him, or he may move to the WEC Valkarie project, before it gets going.

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I thought at the time if Stroll was going to stay they would have announced it as the same time as Alonso.
All Spanish team with Sainz?

[Skam85]

Originally Posted by peebee2

Rumours are he's been guaranteed a race drive by 2025 at the latest.

Yep - fairly sure Marko has come out and said this a few times too.

[Skam85]

Originally Posted by Alan52

I thought at the time if Stroll was going to stay they would have announced it as the same time as Alonso.
All Spanish team with Sainz?

Have they ever announced Stroll officially before?

I feel like it's always just been assumed and he's rocked up the next season.

[Moneyseeker]

Originally Posted by Skam85

Have they ever announced Stroll officially before?

I feel like it's always just been assumed and he's rocked up the next season.

It was, but Stroll has already sold a minor stake in AMR and is allegedly looking to sell up to another 25% stake, so this means there will be more people looking at the performance of Stroll jnr than Laurence and to account to.

[Richard C]

Joe's recent post has lots of speculation on driver swaps and other future staff moves.

https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2024...sesame-street/

Summary on drivers...

* Audi unlikely to make much headway in the short term. So Audi probably not a great place for Carlos. Carlos has 2+2 (2 year with option for additional 2 if Carlos wants) offer from Williams
* Potential for Red Bull to swap Lawson into Ricciardo's seat during the summer break.
* Antonelli to Mercedes
* Maybe Jack Doohan to Alpine
* Ocon to Haas

Richard

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by Richard C

Joe's recent post has lots of speculation on driver swaps and other future staff moves.

https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2024...sesame-street/

Summary on drivers...

* Audi unlikely to make much headway in the short term. So Audi probably not a great place for Carlos. Carlos has 2+2 (2 year with option for additional 2 if Carlos wants) offer from Williams
* Potential for Red Bull to swap Lawson into Ricciardo's seat during the summer break.
* Antonelli to Mercedes
* Maybe Jack Doohan to Alpine
* Ocon to Haas

Richard

If you look at his replies to some of the comments at the bottom he is saying the Lawson for Ricciardo summer break swap is a done deal.

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by Alan52

If you look at his replies to some of the comments at the bottom he is saying the Lawson for Ricciardo summer break swap is a done deal.

Maybe I am just not finding it, but I don't see him saying that in a comment. Someone did ask to clarify if he meant his meaning was to announce Lawson for 2025 or to swap him in mid-season. And he said "swap". So I assume Joe was just clarifying the intent of his statement but not placing extra confidence in it happening. Joe does seem pretty confident/affirmative on many of driver changes.

I forgot to mention earlier, he also says Bearman to Haas. Which is not a surprise.

Richard

[Sandgroper]

Originally Posted by Alan52

If you look at his replies to some of the comments at the bottom he is saying the Lawson for Ricciardo summer break swap is a done deal.

I will believe that when I see it.
I cant see them pushing DR out of the seat this year.

Mind you I have been known to be wrong before.