Grp C/Grp A/V8SC 'Where are they now?' continued...

[mite5255]

We need something similar to this YouTube in Australia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfq7-1ePW-M

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by ASSA Member

Ok here we have it:
The left hand drive turbo car:
Allan Grice driving the left hand drive Craven Mild car:


Note that the rear guards are closed type ones because the car ran in the Australian Sport Sedan Championship at this point in time and open flares/guards weren't allowed.

Jim Richards driving the left hand drive JPS car:


I am going to take a stab here and say it is the same car. Besides the rear guards being open (this was allowed in the GT Championship) look at the the roll cage, front body work, rear wing and even the mirror on the drivers door, they all look the same to me.

The right hand drive turbo car:
I linked some pics earlier in the thread of when Allan Grice drove the car, I haven't got any pictures of when Brue Lynton raced it. Here are two pics of the car when John Briggs ran it
- Still in black paint after taking the car over from Lynton:

- Now with different paint work and open flares/guards to meet the GT regulations:


Below is a picture of the car when Richard Gartner raced the car. As you can see the flares/guards were now changed back to closed type ones to meet the Sport Sedan regulations. The rotary engine was now also fitted so the turbo exhaust pipe out the passenger side door was removed too.

Here we are on day #1 of 2022 & the car is for sale:
https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/De...turbo-ex-works
&
https://www.group5bmw.com/

...The next step in the cars history is In 1980, it went to Australia to Frank Gardner and Allen Grice. Allen spent a small amount of time with the car and Jim Richards was brought in. During a phone call with Frank Gardner and the current owner a few years prior to Gardners passing, Frank said "that is the only car I've ever bought that had been modified by another team that I didn't change" He also said "Anyone can drive that car fast" The team was very successful until a startline crash at Adelaide ended it’s season with Gardner's team, luckily, the chassis was lightly damaged in the crash as the stripped chassis shows almost no real repairs made. The car was tracked down in Australia by a US collector/ racer in the mid '80s and brought to the USA where it sat disassembled for years.
The current owner acquired the car in 1998 and ....

[cavvy]

Can anyone advise the status of the Beechey Mustang these days
&/or
the McKeown Mk 2 Cortina

[cavvy]

Can anyone advise the current status of the Beechey Mustang these days
&/or
the McKeown Mk 2 Cortina.

[S griffin]

Always enjoy looking back at these cars of old and it's always good to see enough of them are still in good nick. Keep the photos and stories coming guys

[Shiney]

Originally Posted by cavvy

Can anyone advise the status of the Beechey Mustang these days
&/or
the McKeown Mk 2 Cortina

Didn't the Beechey Mustang turn up 10 or 12 years ago? I haven't seen or heard of it since.

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by Shiney

Didn't the Beechey Mustang turn up 10 or 12 years ago? I haven't seen or heard of it since.

Its a long time since it was going to be restored.

[GTRMagic]

For Sale: The Golden Child

Offers from... $2,800,000........

[Shiney]

Well that makes every Torana racecar that has sold over the last two years look pretty cheap!!

[David Towe]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

For Sale: The Golden Child

Offers from... $2,800,000........

Why does the famous line from The Castle spring to mind?

[Mattracer]

Would love to see it back to VX instead of VY. Everything it’s known for was as a VX. One of the greatest race cars ever made. Closest I’ll ever get is looking at the 1/18 model (VX) on my top shelf…

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by David Towe

Why does the famous line from The Castle spring to mind?

You could have bought all of HRT when Premoso was under threat 2.8 million times over..

[E.B]

Originally Posted by David Towe

Why does the famous line from The Castle spring to mind?

Hehehe Tell him he's dreamin'.... that is exactly what came to my mind when I saw the number being asked.

[S griffin]

Yes, you would be lucky to find someone willing to spend that much. Why do they need that much anyway?

[cavvy]

Which car is this with a 120,000 Euros price tag

FORD FALCON V8 SUPERCAR
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FORD V8 SUPERCARS FROM 1999 / IT RACED IN AUSTRALIA, ENGLAND IN GRAHAM NASH TEAM AND IN V DE V, SINCE IT RUNS IN TRACKDAYS BUT MAINTAINED LIKE A RACING CAR,

https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/De...on-v8-supercar

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by cavvy

Which car is this with a 120,000 Euros price tag

FORD FALCON V8 SUPERCAR
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FORD V8 SUPERCARS FROM 1999 / IT RACED IN AUSTRALIA, ENGLAND IN GRAHAM NASH TEAM AND IN V DE V, SINCE IT RUNS IN TRACKDAYS BUT MAINTAINED LIKE A RACING CAR,

https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/De...on-v8-supercar

Possibly the one referred to here that went to france - https://tentenths.com/forum/showpost...77&postcount=7

More on the car here:
https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/the-fren...percar-falcon/

[S griffin]

Thanks for the info, nice to know it's been kept alive

[Casper]

Originally Posted by cavvy

Which car is this with a 120,000 Euros price tag

FORD FALCON V8 SUPERCAR
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FORD V8 SUPERCARS FROM 1999 / IT RACED IN AUSTRALIA, ENGLAND IN GRAHAM NASH TEAM AND IN V DE V, SINCE IT RUNS IN TRACKDAYS BUT MAINTAINED LIKE A RACING CAR,

https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/De...on-v8-supercar

How much for an AU Falcon, I'll give him $10,000 if he delivers it. It is a knackered second rate race car when it was made and nothing more than that.

[Shiney]

Yeah Nah. For 25 thousand pounds less........ I'll take the Aston thanks.

[bathurst77]

Originally Posted by Casper

How much for an AU Falcon, I'll give him $10,000 if he delivers it. It is a knackered second rate race car when it was made and nothing more than that.

Thats what everyone was saying about the privateer falcons monaros and
torries in the late 70s and 80s. They just sent them to sims. Now anything that has touched bathurst is unobtainium and priced as such.

[Casper]

Originally Posted by bathurst77

Thats what everyone was saying about the privateer falcons monaros and
torries in the late 70s and 80s. They just sent them to sims. Now anything that has touched bathurst is unobtainium and priced as such.

Old cars as you say have a value as they were mostly homologated specials and that gave them a pedigree that could not be duplicated by anyone. Sports sedan type race cars like this car can be duplicated by anyone if they so desired, did this thing ever win a race to give it at least some value? Cars such as this that had named drivers and a win record are a different kettle of fish. I guess I don't see the value in old crap just because they are old.

[cavvy]

Thanks Casper, how does this look for a $mil:

- Genuine HDT Holden LJ Torana GTR XU-1
- A significant piece of the Peter Brock and Bathurst stories
- Well documented history

One of the most famous Touring Car racers in Australia, this is a genuine Holden Dealer Team (HDT) Torana GTR XU-1 raced by Peter Brock in the 1973 season. With it he was second at Bathurst – after the Torana famously ran out of fuel and had to be pushed up pitlane by co-driver Doug Chivas – and won the Manufacturer’s Championship that year, before being raced in the South Pacific Touring Car Series in early 1974 (alongside the Tasman F5000 series) and winning again. Brock then raced on into the 1974 Australian Touring Car title, wrapping up the crown before switching to the new Torana SL/R5000. Built by HDT Chief Mechanic Ian Tait and team boss Harry Firth, the no-longer-needed LJ Torana was then sold to Holden dealer Graeme Blanchard who raced it in major Touring Car events in the back half of 1974, before it passed into the hands of privateer David Langman who raced it locally for a period. The Torana then disappeared from sight but was rediscovered, in the early-‘90s, sitting on a nature strip in Dandenong (where it had been for a decade!) by Mark Delahoy. Suspecting it was the real deal, Delahoy contacted Ian Tait, who was able to confirm its authenticity, and after some discussion the famous Torana racer was bought by Tait’s son Paul. A thorough restoration was then undertaken, around the original shell, and Tait estimates that around 95 per cent of it is still the original car including the aluminum roll cage, bodyshell and even the custom made Webber’s. In 2006 the XU-1 changed hands again to the current vendor who has enjoyed the vehicle and has had it prepared for competition. As you can see, it is presented in full 1973 HDT livery and sits on the correct Globe Sprintmaster alloy wheels which have been custom made so they can be used in modern competition if the owner wishes. Inside, all the period racing accoutrements are there, including the Bond roll cage, and it is in excellent condition throughout. This ’73 Torana XU-1 Touring Car also comes complete with the original CAMS Log Book, history notes and race results, some photos from the restoration and various magazine articles over the years. It’s an authentic and very important part of Australian motor sport history, and a significant car in Peter Brock’s career. The 1973 Holden LJ Torana GTR XU-1 racer is being offered for sale here unregistered.

https://www.shannons.com.au/auctions...F57QCN5O3P0CC/

[S griffin]

I'd say that is definitely worth $1 million. Where else can you get that? Great bit of history, with plenty of stories to tell from the early days of the category. It could have easily gone missing forever, but they managed to track it down and keep it in good shape. Whoever gets that is one lucky guy. Plenty to get excited about

[Kingair]

Neat little jigger.

[Casper]

Originally Posted by cavvy

Thanks Casper, how does this look for a $mil:

- Genuine HDT Holden LJ Torana GTR XU-1
- A significant piece of the Peter Brock and Bathurst stories
- Well documented history

One of the most famous Touring Car racers in Australia, this is a genuine Holden Dealer Team (HDT) Torana GTR XU-1 raced by Peter Brock in the 1973 season. With it he was second at Bathurst – after the Torana famously ran out of fuel and had to be pushed up pitlane by co-driver Doug Chivas – and won the Manufacturer’s Championship that year, before being raced in the South Pacific Touring Car Series in early 1974 (alongside the Tasman F5000 series) and winning again. Brock then raced on into the 1974 Australian Touring Car title, wrapping up the crown before switching to the new Torana SL/R5000. Built by HDT Chief Mechanic Ian Tait and team boss Harry Firth, the no-longer-needed LJ Torana was then sold to Holden dealer Graeme Blanchard who raced it in major Touring Car events in the back half of 1974, before it passed into the hands of privateer David Langman who raced it locally for a period. The Torana then disappeared from sight but was rediscovered, in the early-‘90s, sitting on a nature strip in Dandenong (where it had been for a decade!) by Mark Delahoy. Suspecting it was the real deal, Delahoy contacted Ian Tait, who was able to confirm its authenticity, and after some discussion the famous Torana racer was bought by Tait’s son Paul. A thorough restoration was then undertaken, around the original shell, and Tait estimates that around 95 per cent of it is still the original car including the aluminum roll cage, bodyshell and even the custom made Webber’s. In 2006 the XU-1 changed hands again to the current vendor who has enjoyed the vehicle and has had it prepared for competition. As you can see, it is presented in full 1973 HDT livery and sits on the correct Globe Sprintmaster alloy wheels which have been custom made so they can be used in modern competition if the owner wishes. Inside, all the period racing accoutrements are there, including the Bond roll cage, and it is in excellent condition throughout. This ’73 Torana XU-1 Touring Car also comes complete with the original CAMS Log Book, history notes and race results, some photos from the restoration and various magazine articles over the years. It’s an authentic and very important part of Australian motor sport history, and a significant car in Peter Brock’s career. The 1973 Holden LJ Torana GTR XU-1 racer is being offered for sale here unregistered.

https://www.shannons.com.au/auctions...F57QCN5O3P0CC/

I can still see Doug pushing that car into the pits and everyone willing him on.

It is worth whatever it is worth....how long is a bit of string? Cars seem to be in demand as investments and every overpriced super car seems to be sold by invitation only so the market is strong. Rimac just sold the first years production run of their version of the supercar for four million each and it is not a one off like Brock's car but it does have 1995HP!!

https://www.autoweek.com/news/sports...ficially-here/