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Valerie race project binned.....end of Hyperclass?
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19 Feb 2020, 11:26 (Ref:3958467) | #4452 | |
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Shame, that Valkyrie has a lot of potential. We’ll see if the Hyperclass still gets enough entries
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19 Feb 2020, 15:44 (Ref:3958515) | #4453 | ||
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Yes but not his business, Prodrive build them. All Aston Martin get is sales of components to build them plus great exposure
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19 Feb 2020, 18:57 (Ref:3958559) | #4454 | |
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Yeah, cause Prodrive gets to use another's IP for free in building the cars? Not even remotely, guarantee there is money being made by Aston Martin in the building of GT3 and GTE cars
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20 Feb 2020, 15:55 (Ref:3958771) | #4455 | ||
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I posted something akin to this just now in the Hypercar thread. You're right on the money. Not only sacrificed stock value but reduced liquidity to levels which required contingent debt obligations to meet liquidity needs. No contingency plan if things didn't work out. The "Second Century Plan" always made me chuckle. |
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Production suspended, share price down 47% today. A pound a share!
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1 Apr 2020, 16:38 (Ref:3968054) | #4457 | |
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Ouch, and on the day they voted and approved the Stroll investment plan. If he'd waited he could have bought the whole thing for a nickel and ride home
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1 Apr 2020, 16:53 (Ref:3968059) | #4458 | ||
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I think if Stroll becomes majority owner, one, he'll take AM back to being a private limited company under UK law, and two, he'll demote or fire Palmer, or force him to resign. May even pay him to just go away like what VAG and Porsche did to Weiking in 2009.
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1 Apr 2020, 21:03 (Ref:3968110) | #4459 | |
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They have said they will go ahead with plans to change the F1 team name next season, which will be good for those who feel Racing Point isn’t a good team name
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1 Apr 2020, 21:15 (Ref:3968114) | #4460 | |
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True, though the share price was a lot higher when said. Things have to be critical for AML right now sadly.
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24 May 2020, 18:50 (Ref:3978111) | #4461 | ||
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Just read that Andy Palmer has been forced to leave Aston Martin as CEO. They're looking at getting someone attached to Mercedes-AMG to take over.
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24 May 2020, 20:31 (Ref:3978120) | #4462 | ||
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To be very honest i think AM will be very lucky to survive the current situation and if they do will there be enough customers out there for them to spend much on racing
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25 May 2020, 20:09 (Ref:3978279) | #4463 | |
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Yeah, it looks to me like circling the wagons and I wouldn't be surprised to see them try to buy back the company and take it private again. Don't know if that's possible with the UK rules but I could see the group owning it pushing for a more Ferrari style "lifestyle" company branding.
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Don’t be too certain about that. Depends how much money the company is tipping in versus how much sponsors like Total cover. And then there’s the fact the GTE programme sells cars to customers in GTE AM (even if not many). |
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26 May 2020, 09:43 (Ref:3978355) | #4467 | |
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I wouldn't be surprised either way if it decides to stay or go from the WEC. It may be decided that's an unnecessary side part or they may let some third party run it for them. Watch this space I say
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26 May 2020, 11:49 (Ref:3978380) | #4468 | |
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A change at the top might just give them a better chance at survive and/or thrive hopefully.
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15 Nov 2020, 18:36 (Ref:4017018) | #4471 | ||
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Well i think Aston martin have to decide what they want to do, they are a make that will always be classed as a sportscar company so they must have a presence in sportscar racing but we can all understand how in todays environment the cost must be controlled,
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15 Nov 2020, 23:20 (Ref:4017133) | #4472 | ||
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Anyway it's just another step to the gte demise IMSA: corvette vs lmp3 vs part time bmw WEC: ferrari vs porsche vs maybe amr |
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The GTE Pro bit is not looking great. It was awesome from 2017-2019 as everybody knows. It stood out and we had a reason to be excited and watch it. I watch replays of WEC races from 2017-19 far more than 2020 to this point. With the grid now...what is the point when we have SRO GT World Challenge available. Porsche, Aston Martin, and Ferrari all have a presence there plus you get the other GT makes too. In fact the AF Corse cars in GT WC runs almost the extact same paint livery as their WEC cars. Big overlap in drivers too as Pier Guidi was the enduro champion this year now. |
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17 Nov 2020, 12:04 (Ref:4017437) | #4474 | |
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I think we have to keep our fingers crossed. Hopefully we’ll have a good grid at Daytona in both classes, with the traditional teams taking part, no reason why there shouldn’t be. However the rest of the season is looking a little uncertain as you say. How many will do the full season? And will we see close competition between the two classes? Each to their own, but would be nice if the Corvettes and the like could at least mix with the LMP3s
I feel the LMP3 has worked well in IMSA. But if things have looked uncertain in IMSA, look at how much the field has declined in WEC. It was looking good, but since 2019 numbers have been down, but the racing has still been good enough. We had enough this season too, but the series really has been in dire need of a rethink. Hopefully Le Mans next year will still have the numbers. I am sure it will |
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If people are seriously suggesting balancing LMP3 and GTE then it is definitely time to kill the class.
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