[WEC] WEC 2024

[tomcug]

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...e-to-fe-clash/
Interesting that some drivers are obliged to do the Spa round and miss the FE race.

[ivozet]

Does anyone know what grandstands will be open for the event at Imola next month? How can i obtain paddock and grid walk tickets? Thanks.

[Mike E]

Originally Posted by ivozet

Does anyone know what grandstands will be open for the event at Imola next month? How can i obtain paddock and grid walk tickets? Thanks.

https://www.ticketone.it/event/wec-6...rari-17337124/

[veeten]

Looks like Ganassi racing is making this year it's last with Cadillac.

https://www.sportscar365.com/lemans/...t-end-of-year/

[ivozet]

Originally Posted by Mike E

https://www.ticketone.it/event/wec-6...rari-17337124/

Thanks, but no tickets

[v8supes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA59DIwNUNU

Some cars are already testing at Imola. Penske Porsches, TF Sport Corvette among others

[TF110]

Originally Posted by v8supes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA59DIwNUNU

Some cars are already testing at Imola. Penske Porsches, TF Sport Corvette among others

Nice video. I like these because you hear the cars more than the race feeds.

[TF110]

Motorsport.com saying the WEC will enforce a minimum/maximum 2 factory hypercars starting next year!

Theres pluses and minuses for that. Biggest minus imo would be limited private teams like Isotta. But if they expand the grid to 41 or 42 cars, that problem goes away. Biggest plus is you have a more even championship and Cadillac, Aston Martin are forced to show up proper if they want in.

[veeten]

Not to mention, new manufacturers will be able to have a proper 2-car team, and still have independent teams. An up to 40 team field is quite acceptable for the majority of the season, given the number GT3s that will appear, including Le Mans. If anything, combining the two as present will insure up to 50+ fields, in certain circumstances.

[broadrun96]

Does anyone actually have a true 3 car WEC factory effort? By that I mean without the fingers crossed no that other 499 is so not a factory car see, it's yellow not red.

[tomcug]

It can't be a factory car on paper per rules due to 2 car per manufacturer limit. But practically it's a 100% factory effort.

[Hawkwood]

Originally Posted by TF110

Motorsport.com saying the WEC will enforce a minimum/maximum 2 factory hypercars starting next year!

Theres pluses and minuses for that. Biggest minus imo would be limited private teams like Isotta. But if they expand the grid to 41 or 42 cars, that problem goes away. Biggest plus is you have a more even championship and Cadillac, Aston Martin are forced to show up proper if they want in.

Isotta would just go to two cars like they wanted for this year. They'd be fine.
It's the actual privateers like Jota and Proton that'd be caught out.
Motorsport.com did some counting of expected entries, and found there would only be two spots for privateers, whereas there are currently four privateers, including the third works Ferrari.


That's a really stupid issue to give yourself, and seems to be a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

[tomcug]

I think McLaren's and Ford's GT cars are more in danger. No hypercar, no GT entries

[TF110]

They could solve this by having a bigger grid than 40. 42 or 43 cars would have everyone currently and the extra 4 cars from Cadillac, Lamborghini and Aston Martin.

[flatlandsman]

I think a lot of this is also due to venue space, more of a problem in IMSA than WEC, but certain venues have less circuit space for garages etc, especially some of the Middle East ones. Somewhere like Spa or Silverstone has tons of it, but others have less, logistics is a big deal in series like this.

[tomcug]

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...-qatar-1812km/
That hurts.

[broadrun96]

Seems a bit aggressive if Dallara and Caddy could both shown it was poor build not performance, nothing like needing additional equipment to 3d scan a car to find a violation to "save costs"

[tomcug]

Still a technical violation is a technical violation, usually the penalty is DSQ or some other serious one like we had many examples in the past. Belle Isle and AXR's Caddy less than 2 kg underweight, Silverstone and Toyota running too low, Watkins Glen and Porsche too low, etc.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

Seems a bit aggressive if Dallara and Caddy could both shown it was poor build not performance, nothing like needing additional equipment to 3d scan a car to find a violation to "save costs"

Can't believe this standard procedure to scan a cars bodywork to see if a few pieces are out of whack? tough break for the team, they better check all their spares to see what the range of conditions are.

[flatlandsman]

Was this not also an issue with a car at Sebring? And was made a part for the car earlier in the day so it could race?

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by tomcug

Still a technical violation is a technical violation, usually the penalty is DSQ or some other serious one like we had many examples in the past. Belle Isle and AXR's Caddy less than 2 kg underweight, Silverstone and Toyota running too low, Watkins Glen and Porsche too low, etc.

Oh I understand that but a 3D scan to determine compliance is orders of magnitude of cost increase over hand tools, scales or height measure. They didn't say oh we found the strakes looked odd or bent and measured but we 3D scanned the car, found a violation and when provided information still said no good, you're booted. You've now said EVERY team needs to 3D scan every piece of equipment to verify they're compliant, I'm sure that's not something you grab from the bargain bin at Amazon

No, I am not against booting cheats, I would have preferred MSR booted from the series for the nonsense last year cause that wasn't a little issue. But for a deficiency that can be verified as Friday afternoon build at Dallara strikes me as fine or yellow card like strike. And would require open disclosure of yes, this is was found, this is the documentation of issue and supplier comment. And the next time, yup that's paddling time Jasper

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by flatlandsman

Was this not also an issue with a car at Sebring? And was made a part for the car earlier in the day so it could race?

Probably a different car. It was a manufacturing / quality control issue so could be just one part.

And anyway, do IMSA 3D scan the cars? I’m guessing not for the cost reasons broadrun96 brings up.

[tomcug]

Yes, they do. There's a good video on this topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ovkbYldyk

[Adam43]

Thanks, I’ll watch that later.

[v8supes]

Originally Posted by flatlandsman

Was this not also an issue with a car at Sebring? And was made a part for the car earlier in the day so it could race?

GTD Corvettes