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Group'C' · 15 Jul 2005, 00:24 (Ref:1355869)

I did hear that Mike still had the car, but it hasn't run for a while .
It had heaps of potential

DAVID PATERSON · 15 Jul 2005, 01:05 (Ref:1355888)

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Originally Posted by pete60

Craig has quite a collection of cars..the Pirtek Falcon, a DJR AU, a couple of old Dick Johnson XC Falcons, the ex Bill O'Brien/Bob Morris XD, the King George Tavern XE, a couple of Capris and more.

Actually these cars are owned by Craig's father, John Harris, the former dealer principal at Bryan Byrt Ford. Expect to see all of them competing in the Group C races at this year's annual Qld Historic Racing Festival at Qld Raceway on August 6 & 7.

DAVID PATERSON · 15 Jul 2005, 01:08 (Ref:1355889)

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Originally Posted by krypto71

For those interested, the latest edition of Australian Muscle Car magazine has an article on the 98 Bathurst winning Pirtek Falcon. Still owned by Craig Harris, it looks good repainted in Pirtek colours.

I saw this car recently take part in the HRCC Test n Tune day at QR. It is immaculately presented in exactly the form in which it started the '98 Bathurst 1000. As the last Ford to win Bathurst, it's potentially quite valuable.

David Towe · 15 Jul 2005, 08:34 (Ref:1356028)

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Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

Actually these cars are owned by Craig's father, John Harris, the former dealer principal at Bryan Byrt Ford. Expect to see all of them competing in the Group C races at this year's annual Qld Historic Racing Festival at Qld Raceway on August 6 & 7.

At the same meeting will be Group A Touring Cars (much to the annoyance of one Mr. Harris) with 3 ex works Skylines, a Starion, a Volvo and maybe a JPS M3 if I can find the funding.

Razor · 15 Jul 2005, 09:23 (Ref:1356060)

This may sound stupid but, where is chassis #043? The one used by Mark Skaife, Todd Kelly and Greg Murphy.

pete60 · 15 Jul 2005, 10:55 (Ref:1356119)

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Originally Posted by Greg Barton

This may sound stupid but, where is chassis #043? The one used by Mark Skaife, Todd Kelly and Greg Murphy.

HSVDT have this one...last used in Kmart colours.

EddieS · 22 Jul 2005, 06:59 (Ref:1360586)

Sorry to back track, there are 3 Glen Seton sierra's built
GSR 1 Raced early in the piece, rolled and converted to supertourer and raced by Ellery. Now in Tasmania being brought back to group A spec
GSR2 Rob Tweedie I believe still 4 sale
GSR3 Driven at Clipsal 500 and stored for 12 years untouched prior raced exclusively in 1992

Razor · 22 Jul 2005, 07:19 (Ref:1360600)

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Originally Posted by pete60

HSVDT have this one...last used in Kmart colours.

Didn't HRT took the #043 chassis back and made it full VZ spec?

William Dale Jr · 23 Jul 2005, 00:25 (Ref:1361135)

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Originally Posted by EddieS

Sorry to back track, there are 3 Glen Seton sierra's built
GSR 1 Raced early in the piece, rolled and converted to supertourer and raced by Ellery. Now in Tasmania being brought back to group A spec
GSR2 Rob Tweedie I believe still 4 sale
GSR3 Driven at Clipsal 500 and stored for 12 years untouched prior raced exclusively in 1992

When you say GSR1 was rolled, do you mean this was the car that was involved in the big one at Lakeside in 89, or the one Simon Kane bent at Phillip Island in testing?

Any chance you could give a slightly more detailed race history of the three chassis such as where they made their first race appearance? Also, are those the actual chassis names?

David Towe · 23 Jul 2005, 10:13 (Ref:1361335)

Hi William, some time back you asked me to provide some info re BMW chassis numbers. If you get hold of a book by the name of The Essential BMW 6 Series Enthusiasts Companion by Jeremy Walton you'll see a complete listing of Group A 6 series shell numbers and their team details.
I'll let you know when I find anything else you might be interested in.

EddieS · 25 Jul 2005, 02:24 (Ref:1362465)

All the sierra's built by GSR had there first race at bathurst. In actual fact to my knowledge the first sierra built had no number. I can definitely say though that the second sierra built (tweedie) is GSR1 chassis number and the last built in GSR 2. I'm not sure when the roll happened to the first sierra but according to Glen it was very early in the piece after not many races at all. This is apparently when it was converted to supertourer spec for Ellery. Quite possibly the roll you are refering to may have been to the second car (Tweedies)??
Definetly the last car debuted at Bathurst 89 and raced all the Bathurst events including 92. This car has definetly never been rolled and the least tampered with according to Glen.

racer69 · 25 Jul 2005, 02:50 (Ref:1362472)

Considering Seton's first race in a Sierra was Amaroo Park in 1989, does this indicate that GSR didn't build that first Sierra, to be debuted at Bathurst it would have had to be built and run originally by someone else.

I was of the impression that the car involved in the Lakeside 1989 crash was close to a write-off, if not one. Considering 2-Litre racing didn't start in Australia until 1994, this car wouldn't have been converted to that spec for the Ellery's at that time

William Dale Jr · 25 Jul 2005, 04:14 (Ref:1362506)

Not sure about all the cars making their debut at Bathurst, I was pretty certain that the original car was put together in the new GSR workshop over the summer and made its race debut at the 1989 Amaroo ATCC round. The car raced at Amaroo, Symmons and Lakeside (incidentally, it won the 'Best Presented Car' award at Amaroo and Lakeside) before the massive accident at Lakeside. It seems odd that this shell would be repaired and sit idle until 1993 when Ellery first ran it.

Seton made his next ATCC appearance at Sandown in a new car (GSR1, which I think I also read somewhere was Ford Motorsport shell RS155) which he used for the rest of the ATCC. Seton did the .05 500 at Sandown with John Goss, but I'm not sure which car was used. GSR ran two cars for the first time at Bathurst in 1989. IIRC, these two cars can be differentiated by the angle of the front tow hook.

GTRMagic once mentioned that he remembered that a crashed Seton car was repaired on a jig made by Celette, which resulted in the car sporting a Celette logo for the rest of the year. The crash that led to this happened at Amaroo in 1990 during practice.

Sultan · 25 Jul 2005, 04:33 (Ref:1362510)

I thought the 1st GSR car was a Rouse 'kit', like most of the Oz cars at the time (Excluding DJR, Moffat/Eggenberger, the Wolf Longhurst & Wolf Peanut Slab cars), could be wrong though...

EddieS · 25 Jul 2005, 21:46 (Ref:1363304)

I was under the impression all were built from kits supplied by Rouse. I'm not to sure of the history behind the first GSR maybe the boys in Tassie can shed some light. Definetly tweedies car and the last sierra (GSR2) did the majority of racing. GSR2 hads 20 rounds of the ATCC including Bathurst in its logbook with first race Bathurst 89. Competed bathurst 89,90,91,92 ie 92 by Parsons when Seto went to falcon. Seton stated himself that all shells were built up using parts from Rouse and UK most of which are AP racing.

adz_34 · 1 Aug 2005, 15:41 (Ref:1369301)

anybody know what happened to the Nissan GTR's in Aus. Terry Ashwood? I think it is owns one but what happened to the other cars?

Also Brockys 1997 VS where did this car end up?

David Towe · 1 Aug 2005, 21:42 (Ref:1369690)

Terry does own one Godzilla, Bob Forbes owns one, and there is a promo car that is owned by Dave Nolan. Dave had the car up for sale for a while and probably could be talked into parting with it for the right money. It never actaully raced but is pristine condition. That's all I know of.

Falcadore · 1 Aug 2005, 21:51 (Ref:1369698)

At least one, the 1991 race winner, went to an Asia touring car series.

Group'C' · 2 Aug 2005, 05:00 (Ref:1369810)

Hasn't Lindsay Fox got a Winfield GTR in his collection

Noonz1 · 2 Aug 2005, 05:02 (Ref:1369811)

Yes Group C he does - I believe its the Olofsson/Crompton #2 car though, while the #1 car is owned by Terry Ashwood and on display at the Bathurst Museum (last time I was there anyway!)

Group'C' · 2 Aug 2005, 05:11 (Ref:1369814)

be interesting to know what car was raced when and if at some stage 2 was 1

Noonz1 · 2 Aug 2005, 05:12 (Ref:1369816)

True that - the board for the car at Bathurst say it was Skaife's car in 1992 and won the ATCC before becoming #1 for the enduros.

Falcadore · 2 Aug 2005, 07:16 (Ref:1369857)

To back track to the GSR cars, Tweedie owned and raced the Super Tourer at one point before IIRC leasing it to Kurt Kratzmann for a season.

Therefore - did at one point Tweedie own two GSRs?

Group'C' · 2 Aug 2005, 12:25 (Ref:1370088)

I thought this Falcadore, I'm going to try and talk to the Sims brothers in Tassie and see if they have any idea on the history of thier car.

EddieS · 3 Aug 2005, 22:59 (Ref:1371488)

Yep. Definetly Tweedie did own both the sierra's at one time and sold the first one off (supertourer).

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