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Unless of course, IMSA has realized that there is little benefit to an ACO connection when you have no ACO cars running in your series.
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16 May 2015, 19:44 (Ref:3538243) | #428 | |
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As long as theyre new prototypes and are using current tech (like carbon fiber) it should be ok for dp. I think dp as it is now will continue on for a year or so, for grandfathering, but new regs will be introduced. Someone like Bentley could influence the way they're made and look.
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16 May 2015, 19:46 (Ref:3538244) | #429 | |
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it's a quite easy for bentley to start a season in TUSC prototypes... just buy two or three riley chassis, put inside the same engine from the continental gt3 with a bodywork made by M-sport.
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Mighty M : Well I might buy in to your thinking about $ 200 Million for the Factories Porsche / Audi but from a Privateer perspective I find it hard to believe many / Any team owners are spending more than $ 10 million per year for operational expenses .
Heck for 5 -6 million dollars you can run a Ferrari for the whole TUSC season in GTLM !! MoMedic9019 : Perhaps They saw the Light : Perhaps " IMSA has tralized there is little benefit to an ACO connection when you have no ACO cars in your series " |
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Agreements aren't worth the paper they are written on.
We are looking at three P2 cars(two of which aren't even LM24 eligible/ACO compliant), and three, maybe four GTE cars for next season. That's a pretty weak link. The ACO couldn't give a toss as to what is going on here. |
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The P1 factory teams show up at the track with a lot more people than a privateer GTLM team would and I suspect that their cost structures are also a wee bit higher. Parts aren't cheaper either. Running those very complex P1 cars is just expensive. (I'm presuming that you'd need to establish a dedicated team to run the cars in the U.S.) Throw in some development/testing work associated with Daytona, additional marketing expenditures (which might get buried in a different line item in the overall budget) and I really doubt that the total investment is less than about $40 million a year. |
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Mighty M : I do understand the point you are making . the ONLY ones that can afford it is the Factories . one offs Possibly Daytona , Maybe Sebring , would hope also Petite but the rest of the series .I just don't see it happening . What is the worth of doing such for a Privateer team ?
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16 May 2015, 21:33 (Ref:3538318) | #434 | |
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It's a weird rumor about Bentley going DP. It's like that old Maserati and Audi rumor.
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16 May 2015, 21:37 (Ref:3538322) | #435 | ||
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Bently to DP Pipe Dream at Best
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16 May 2015, 22:07 (Ref:3538336) | #438 | ||
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“Audi's annual LMP1-H budget is $242 million.”
Source: Marshall Pruett, “Inside the Audi F1 rumors”, Racer, November 4, 2014. Link: Here. |
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16 May 2015, 22:17 (Ref:3538339) | #439 | ||
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Considering those rules have gone down like a lead brick with most of the team owners, constructions, OEMs and many sponsors, I'm thinking that the Bentley man might be right here. The number of ACO cars in IMSA is getting small and in the prototype categories is rapidly becoming next to none. If I were them, I'd have told the ACO where to shove it long before now.
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Until more is uncovered, I'll stick with my original thought that nothing will change, and DP carries on as we know it. |
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16 May 2015, 23:27 (Ref:3538357) | #441 | ||
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The DPs have to disappear someday. Modern tubes are needed, if not, ask Memo Gidley. I had read that a DP was as expensive as a P2. I think the team owners don't want to start from scratch with a new car, and that's part of the problem.
By other side, american constructors have to design and build a P2. If they don't want to be P1 privateers and they want to compete at P2, they could use the same electronics as in WEC P2 to reduce costs. If they want keep freedom about electronics, they are at the same point to build a P2 or a P1 private. all links about Coyote and Riley about the new P2 http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/11069...yote-eyeing-p2 http://sportscar365.com/industry/coy...017-lmp2-regs/ http://sportscar365.com/industry/ril...type-for-2017/ Last edited by Damian Baldi; 16 May 2015 at 23:37. |
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I'm gonna call the Bentley dealer to see what they know but I don't expect much info. Stay tuned.
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I mean, that chassis tub is suitable for a Bentley Continental than a narrow-shaped P2 one! |
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I also like the idea of a LMP3/DTM type carbon tub with stell roll cage - you can adjust the roll cage so the same carbon tub can be used for different shapes of car
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I think what's more likely is what Merc have done on the SLS GT3: Have a carbon survival cell, but inside the actual frame and not as a structural part of the car. IIRC that was also done on the previous generation DTM cars.
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(FWIW, Boris breaking a rib in the Marsh car last year doesn't count as a car related injury, as you can break a rib simply by sneezing really hard) |
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17 May 2015, 17:42 (Ref:3538625) | #447 | ||
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Does anyone know what the current status of Memo Gidley is ?
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17 May 2015, 18:01 (Ref:3538632) | #449 | ||
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Just compare Memo's accident to the one Greg Pickett had at M-O.
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17 May 2015, 18:55 (Ref:3538647) | #450 | ||
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Yea I like DP's but when you at gidley's crash and the state of the car and then look at all the resent audi crashes at Le Mans I think a safety cell is needed.
Eventhough I didn't like Duval's crash last year during practice,looked like the door broke off and roof peeled back and his helmet was clearly visible.NOT GOOD. |
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