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Old 31 Mar 2013, 12:03 (Ref:3227206)   #426
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What engine is it then ......
Bog-standard Judd HK LMP2 4.0 liter V8.
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Old 1 Apr 2013, 01:27 (Ref:3227438)   #427
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I see I assumed correctly then. It's a Praga! It's a Judd? No wait, it's a BMW...
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Old 1 Apr 2013, 13:34 (Ref:3227583)   #428
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G'How much is Judd getting for being in the Praga's shadow?
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I see I assumed correctly then. It's a Praga! It's a Judd? No wait, it's a BMW...
Get it right mate-its a Lotus!!!!

This whole rebadging thing is doing my head in....
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Old 2 Apr 2013, 23:43 (Ref:3228299)   #430
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And ..... ?
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Old 3 Apr 2013, 07:31 (Ref:3228370)   #431
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It's a Judd.
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Based on a BMW (based very little)
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hello, not so little, is the p65 of the stock m3 race tuned and destroked to 3.6 to rise revving.
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Was pleasantly surprised with how well the cars went at Spa. Most important thing was that they were reliable and got lots of running.

If they can make the same leap forward they did from Silverstone to Spa to Le Mans then they could be fighting for the lead early on. Not sure they'll go the distance but in later WEC rounds they could be in the mix for podiums and wins.
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Old 7 May 2013, 11:32 (Ref:3243913)   #436
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I'd love to see it in a brighter livery. It's already prettier than all of the new P1s. But I'v gaving JPS livery overdose already.
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Old 7 May 2013, 13:18 (Ref:3243950)   #438
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I'd love to see it in a brighter livery. It's already prettier than all of the new P1s.
I agree, the car looks good but that livery is horrible (like most lmp liveries this year - everyone is having those shitty black paintjobs).
gives me hope that the porsche (and the other next gen lmp1s) will look good next year
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Old 9 May 2013, 02:48 (Ref:3244624)   #440
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Maybe have the gold light up for Le Mans, that would be interesting to see!
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Old 9 May 2013, 16:09 (Ref:3244889)   #441
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So what the scoop/consensus on this car?

I don't think it will be the P2 winner but I am more than happy to be wrong. Just seems that the whole car is a unknown with reliability. But designed by F1 engineer. Collin Kolles involvement.

How is the Judd engine in this car? Will it last 24 hours?

Will it go to LMP1? Its a very good looking prototype. I like it better than the Porsche. Team lead by Collin Kolles. And if it goes LMP1 is it considered Factory or Privateer? Is it possible to get a customer Toyota engine for this car?
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I for one like the car and hope they can sell a few for next season. As far as an Lmp1 goes it would take them a bit of work, but they have started the desire to be in P1. Im sure running the P2 had given them a bit of data to work with going forward. You bring up a good point about the engine, that is for sure going to be a sticking point for privateers next year.
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Not sure of the final version of the 2104 regs, but I thought ERS/non-ERS was the determining factor, and "factory" and "privateer" didn't really pertain in quite the same way it does now.

For instance, Porsche could sell non-ERS versions of its new car and they would be "privateers" even if they had Porsche motors in Porsche chassis, so long as there was no ERS.

Haven't read a finalized version of the 2014 regs so not sure.
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I for one like the car and hope they can sell a few for next season. As far as an Lmp1 goes it would take them a bit of work, but they have started the desire to be in P1. Im sure running the P2 had given them a bit of data to work with going forward. You bring up a good point about the engine, that is for sure going to be a sticking point for privateers next year.
Engine wise I got the impression that so long as you weren't trying to go down the hybrid route a 2013 legal LMP1 engine will be fine in 2014. That's certainly the impression I've got from Rebellion's statements, which I'm reading as indicating they'll be using essentially the same Toyota package they've had this year.
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Engine wise I got the impression that so long as you weren't trying to go down the hybrid route a 2013 legal LMP1 engine will be fine in 2014. That's certainly the impression I've got from Rebellion's statements, which I'm reading as indicating they'll be using essentially the same Toyota package they've had this year.
I think you are correct on that, I was trying to make the point that the factories will have strong engine/hybrid packages which may be hard to complete with - even with a competent chassis.
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The factories will be hard to compete with because of cubic dollars, but the non-ERS cars are supposed to be significantly lighter.
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The factories will be hard to compete with because of cubic dollars, but the non-ERS cars are supposed to be significantly lighter.
870kg vs 850kg. A 5kg difference compared to todays regs. I dont think they should be that heavy. I think 800kg for non ers cars and 850kg+ for factory hybrids. That would keep speeds up and consumption down. Maybe thats "too light" for private teams? But I dont see how when lmp2 was that weight half a decade ago.
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