What is Aston Martin up to?

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

But it is going to be their R&D and engineering resource

Well when you're spending that much hire competent guys to do the work

[Coach Ep]

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

But it's not going to be Aston's money......

I guess now we're just patiently waiting for the Saudi 'royal' family to announce their Mercedes-Benz factory effort for 2025...

[Aysedasi]

Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

But it is going to be their R&D and engineering resource

Yes, perhaps Graham, but I can tell you (for sure) that some of their 'engineering resource' have absolutely no idea whether they're likely to be involved - and they're assuming not....

[Graham Goodwin]

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Yes, perhaps Graham, but I can tell you (for sure) that some of their 'engineering resource' have absolutely no idea whether they're likely to be involved - and they're assuming not....

Engineering resource where? At Aston Martin Lagonda, Aston Martin Performance Technologies or Aston Martin Racing?

[veeten]

Basically, they will be taking the same track as Porsche, BMW, Alpine.... Practically everyone. Build the car to the rules , wether it's LMH or LMDh, and bring in or sign with a team with proper or winning creds, and go racing.

Let the team handle the on track stuff, and let the manufacturer handle the logistics. No problems there, eh Graham?

[Matador]

Originally Posted by veeten

Basically, they will be taking the same track as Porsche, BMW, Alpine.... Practically everyone. Build the car to the rules , wether it's LMH or LMDh, and bring in or sign with a team with proper or winning creds, and go racing.

Let the team handle the on track stuff, and let the manufacturer handle the logistics. No problems there, eh Graham?

Sounds about right-ish. The only team not operating like that currently is Toyota and even when they stepped in they had partnered up with ORECA.

[veeten]

and they've been in the dance since LMP1h. When the Hypercar rules first came In, they were ready to go, right out the box. Peugeot tried with an abbreviated '22 season, but were really no match. Glickenhaus were game, along with a grandfathered Alpine LMP1, but the organizers had to BoP the neck to make them competitive. Then there's Ferrari, but still...

[hondafan37]

Rumors gpblog "Stroll plans to sell Aston Martin F1 team for astronomical amount"

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/24132...-huge-sum.html

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by hondafan37

Rumors gpblog "Stroll plans to sell Aston Martin F1 team for astronomical amount"

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/24132...-huge-sum.html

Would not be surprised. The team has lost pace and he probably has had enough of investing in the team

[Matador]

Originally Posted by hondafan37

Rumors gpblog "Stroll plans to sell Aston Martin F1 team for astronomical amount"

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/24132...-huge-sum.html

Would Honda engines and Aston Martin Branding come with that sale?

[peebee2]

Is it the F1 team or his remaining shares in Aston Martin Lagonda?

[deggis]

Originally Posted by peebee2

Is it the F1 team or his remaining shares in Aston Martin Lagonda?

Crappy headline because right away in the story it says all Aston Martin shares. If this story originally from some German F1-insider.com is even remotely credible in the first place.

[broadrun96]

And his shares or the shares his buddies bought and he "manages" cause that's a difference too

[RL17]

Originally Posted by Matador

Would Honda engines and Aston Martin Branding come with that sale?

On the basis that the same person signed the contract twice I'd expect the AM name rights up to 2050 to go with the team.

Would get much more for the F1 team than he's invested in AML or the value of AML shares

[veeten]

Looks like they have a plan besides Le Mans, and it's a good one...

http://www.sportscar365.com/lemans/w...customer-cars/

[Coach Ep]

A factory effort funded privately, selling cars to privateer customers. Guessing we'll see an additional car in each series by 2026.

[broadrun96]

Gotta have that provenance on the FIA history of the car before resale man. Investment values

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by veeten

Looks like they have a plan besides Le Mans, and it's a good one...

http://www.sportscar365.com/lemans/w...customer-cars/

Autosport carried this last week, so they've doubled down on saying it. 1 car in each series with Heart of Racing. Then gets the opportunity to add more, but then if others want it they aren't ruling it out.

In the Autosport article it pointed out that Aston started thinking about this in seriously again early this year (around March?) and Heart of Racing didn't prompt this, but quickly after became involved in the discussions (as were others).

The first drivers considered will come from and other AM GT ranks. With others from outside possible to fill in gaps.

[RL17]

Happier now after hearing the Midweek Motorsport interviews.

Hopefully AMPT will have a long life

[veeten]

And it looks like everyone in IMSA and WEC is A-Okay with AM joining, including the other manufacturers. "The more the merrier...", they say.

https://www.sportscar365.com/lemans/...n-lmh-program/

[hondafan37]

Originally Posted by veeten

And it looks like everyone in IMSA and WEC is A-Okay with AM joining, including the other manufacturers. "The more the merrier...", they say.

https://www.sportscar365.com/lemans/...n-lmh-program/

Obviously everyone was going to agree, this car represents the icing on the cake of the 2 championships!!! It is the new Ferrari 333 SP. All cars today sound horrible.
An Argentine Turismo Carretera sounds much better than the WEC and the Valkyria is once again a sound paradise
https://youtu.be/JxPGh-JYgyk?si=ENYsNtLD6c2hf1vY

[TF110]

Originally Posted by hondafan37

Obviously everyone was going to agree, this car represents the icing on the cake of the 2 championships!!! It is the new Ferrari 333 SP. All cars today sound horrible.
An Argentine Turismo Carretera sounds much better than the WEC and the Valkyria is once again a sound paradise
https://youtu.be/JxPGh-JYgyk?si=ENYsNtLD6c2hf1vY

Not all. The Cadillac has a great sounding V8. I'm glad the Valkyrie is going to race afterall. Too good of a car not to imo.

[veeten]

Since finding out that Multimatic worked with AM on the Valkyrie, just how much of that went into the 963, and will that reciprocate to the race Valkyrie in '25...

Just a thought...

[Sodemo]

So the v12 as it is develops 1100bhp? So if they intend on using this engine would they have an imposed rev limit to bring it down to the 600 odd bop required for the LMH class? I imagine a rev limit would be preferable to an air restrictior? The thing is, it’s only going to be revving to about 6000 rpm or something…? Purely from a competitive point of view I wonder if they would be better off with a turbo V8? Less weight, less heat, not as prone to atmospheric changes?

[veeten]

Actually, it's a10K RPM limit and 520kw equivalent, so there shouldn't be a problem. Remember, they would be far better than Glickenhaus and Vanwall, since it would be a competitive car and not a compromise.