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Old 11 Oct 2023, 13:56 (Ref:4180998)   #4701
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How would a - albeit de-tuned - 'production' car be better than a purpose built race car?

If anything, the difference - or competitive level - is/was more than likely to come from budgets and team operations.
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Old 11 Oct 2023, 14:24 (Ref:4181000)   #4702
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I wonder if the special compensations are still in place for using a production based car? I haven't read the latest rules and regs so I'm not up to date on that. I do recall that there were some performance related perks allowed for production based cars in the early stages of these hypercars.
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Old 11 Oct 2023, 16:59 (Ref:4181012)   #4703
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I wonder if the special compensations are still in place for using a production based car? I haven't read the latest rules and regs so I'm not up to date on that. I do recall that there were some performance related perks allowed for production based cars in the early stages of these hypercars.
Regs text completely unchanged from 2020 or so but they don't amount to much. Variable geometry is allowed if in the original engine.
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Old 11 Oct 2023, 21:04 (Ref:4181036)   #4704
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Purely from a competitive point of view I wonder if they would be better off with a turbo V8? Less weight, less heat, not as prone to atmospheric changes?
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Vantage Evo looks pretty chunky. I like it.

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2023/...ntage-gt3.html
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Old 12 Oct 2023, 20:13 (Ref:4181172)   #4706
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Vantage Evo looks pretty chunky. I like it.

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I'm surprised with the yellow tape for the old version headlights as the new 2024 road going coupes and roadsters have been widely filmed testing with new front end and bigger headlights - much prefer the new lights

Edit:just noticed the area behind new GT3 front wheel - almost totally open with bodywork diving well into arch - rather than side vents for airflow as before and further edit rear wheel rear view like some retro racing 911 porsches
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Old 12 Oct 2023, 21:35 (Ref:4181185)   #4707
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Looks pretty good, they smoothed out the front, more like the '10-'14 car. Doesn't have that indented section, just below the headlights. Put that out in their version of racing green, or as I call it "Aston Green", with the yellow at the front, and you have a winner just on looks alone.

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Old 13 Oct 2023, 01:00 (Ref:4181203)   #4708
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You can see the cutouts for the bigger headlights in some pictures. Looks like the yellow stickers are there to mislead. I much prefer this version to the outgoing gt3.
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Old 26 Dec 2023, 02:58 (Ref:4189910)   #4709
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Just noticed how the front of the EVO Vantage GT3 looks a little like the Emil Frey Jaguar from Blancpain days.
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Old 30 Jan 2024, 15:56 (Ref:4194254)   #4710
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Testing for the hypercar program has begun with the AMR Pro, they're targetting a late Q2 rollout for the full LMH spec car.
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Old 31 Jan 2024, 14:40 (Ref:4194396)   #4711
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I guess it'll look pretty similar to the Valkyrie PRO. Which is great. Best thing imo is they're keeping that glorious V12!
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I guess it'll look pretty similar to the Valkyrie PRO. Which is great. Best thing imo is they're keeping that glorious V12!
This car is the icing on the cake of the WEC, it doesn't matter if it wins or not.
Everyone is going to want to hear that V12!!!
Nowadays the winning Mazda of 1991 or a 333sp that only won the class in 1998 is more important than all the Audi Diesels that won.....
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Old 1 Feb 2024, 11:37 (Ref:4194551)   #4713
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I'm curious how much power the V12 produces on its own?

I know it says 1000bhp, but I presume thats a combined power total of hybrid plus engine bang?
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I'm curious how much power the V12 produces on its own?

I know it says 1000bhp, but I presume thats a combined power total of hybrid plus engine bang?
AMR Pro does not have the main hybrid bits, apparently there's a much smaller motor to fill between the shifts but not the weighty hybrid of the street car. All the articles I've seen still list the 1000 hp/545 ft-lb number
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Old 1 Feb 2024, 13:21 (Ref:4194571)   #4715
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Ok so the engine alone is 1000bhp?

Question then is, how will they knock the power down to 697bhp as per the regs?

Does a team have any influence on that or does the ACO / FIA just slap down a mandate on what they need to do? My guess is that it will be rpm limited to 7000-8000rpm or something?
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I would guess they propose how and if their results work and can be homologated great, if the ACO/IMSA need anything extra they'll both work on it. Rev limit and potential restrictors I would guess
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I would think they would always go with a rev limit option, lower revs = less heat, less vibration, less fuel consumption. I am not surprised they have gone for a non-hybrid in a way as if they did go for a hybrid I dont think they would have been able to make the V12 viable, because it would have to have been so detuned to make it problematic. If they did go hybrid at some point they would probably go for a V6 / V8 turbo + hybrid.
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I would think they would always go with a rev limit option, lower revs = less heat, less vibration, less fuel consumption. I am not surprised they have gone for a non-hybrid in a way as if they did go for a hybrid I dont think they would have been able to make the V12 viable, because it would have to have been so detuned to make it problematic. If they did go hybrid at some point they would probably go for a V6 / V8 turbo + hybrid.


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Haha, oh no, if I had it my way I’d have that V12 singing up to 15,000!
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New Vantage officially showed off! I like it. Motorsport.com says 30 examples are expected this year.
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New Vantage officially showed off! I like it. Motorsport.com says 30 examples are expected this year.
Looks a bit like the Jag F-Type
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Looks a bit like the Jag F-Type
If I was being less generous I'd say the Ford Puma lol
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Just look at it.
I wonder which team that striped one belongs to. Even if it's a test livery, it looks quite nice.
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