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The assertion that Mr Ryan called upon team individuals on stating their years of service is interesting, however the Erebus social media showed several team faces talking about their length of service, looking for all the world happy to do so. Having had the same experience personally at a certain 4 car main game team, a former 3 time main game championship winner and indeed a former WooPS owner... and a few others... at the time each was no fun at times... two of them were great in the end however.. the third.. oh well.. And a certain editor of his competitor was quite excitable one day as well.. To suggest it never happens to anyone else is odd. Or perhaps that the journalists employed to report arent delving into a depth where it hurts the protagoists and providing the genuine news. All of that said... if it amounts to an equivalent of workplace bullying, and there may be some underlying inference of physical threat of restricted egress, and as a holder of a V8Supercar Hard Card, Mr Van Leeuwen would likely have had the option of making a formal complaint to V8Supercar proper, with a view to calling on censuring and BTSID-ing the proponents after an investigation by the appropriate parties had taken place It would be nearly impossible to argue that the working relationship between the journalist and team isnt now cactus... which does the series nor the team any good... Perhaps Ms Kiely was involved as Mr Ryan's minder... and the team is now poorer for not having that buffer between the team machinations and the outside world. Wonder what AA's podcast will make of this... |
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Does nothing to dispel the myth that the Erebus work environment is stuck in the 1970s. Attempting to shoot the messenger doesn’t hide the cluster**** that has occurred on the current ownership and management’s watch.
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Surely the attempt to blow up Andrew van Leeuwen in the Erebus pit by Barry Ryan is absurd in the extreme? It seems that Ryan (also claimed to have sent abusive text messages to AVL and other journalists previously) is unprofessional in the extreme...
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The thing is, if Barry was trying to convey the point he is not a bully, he only confirmed the fact to everyone. I wonder if any of the assembled minions were trying to blink "SOS" to AVL. |
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Is Betty still trying to sneak out the backdoor? Spend over a decade trying to climb to the top, gets there and wants out the very next season. If true it looks very dodgy. Was it going to be to expensive to get rid of the little man with the huge chip in his shoulder? A few things that have been said over the last month or so.
A sponsor saying they couldn't afford to have there brand associated with Erebus? Dane's 180 on his first opinion piece. One minute he's talking toxic workplace... Next minute, it's all over nothing to see here. Everyone needs to move on now. Everyone should to thank Paul for saving us all. Podcast the other week with Morris and Dane. Morris comes out with a comment from out of nowhere, Morris makes a comment about Erebus cheating... Considering Morris is probably the closest person outside of BK and Team Erebus to this saga. I'd have to watch it again, but Dane looked a bit shocked that Paul just popped out with that comment. Dane's reply was he didn't think Erebus were cheating? Nothing more said on the subject, shut down quick. So, what is that all about?? Supercars still talking mental health, Yet I don't think I've seen or read Morris saying anything about mental health issues? I don't even think Dane has said much or anything along those lines either? After all this time, that dead rat is still running around. Is it going to run up betty's leg? |
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AVL has been pretty “showy” since his move to speedcafe, he’s certainly used this as a good platform for his podcast. Some might say he happily poked the bear, blind Freddy would have seen nothing good was going to come from accepting an invite in the Erebus garage.
Journos having arguments with team bosses is nothing new, not sure why AVL has decided to take this one so public. He’s a bit touchy since the story dropped perhaps? He’s certainly touchy to any criticism of his work on Twitter. Can you imagine a Phil Rothfield or Damien Barrett having a whinge about anything like that? This would be a weekly occurrence for footy journos Australian Motorsport has had it easy for decades when it comes to the media, particularly in the last 15 years where it’s able to have been further massaged by Supercars own media outlet. AVL’s style since moving to speedcafe has been far more “nrl/afl”, things aren’t getting swept under the carpet with complicit journos as much, it’s great to see, hopefully the likes of sleuth and AA start adopting the same approach if they want to be taken seriously as sporting media and not as PR for their friends & wanting to protect their favourite series. |
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Another aggrieved.. there are channels within V8Supercars to deal with these things of course… Story Here |
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22 May 2024, 08:21 (Ref:4209944) | #460 | |
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Ryan under microscope over post-race exchange (V8 Sleuth)
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Sweet Jesus, handbags at 30 paces behind the bus shelter!
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But this was done in front of 20+ team members, so it's not a private conversation and he's not gonna get sued for reporting something with so many witnesses of the situation. |
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Barry just Jumped the Shark.
I have defended him in the past but this is exactly what he should not have done, given the circumstances. He IS stuck in the 70s because this manner came to him via Larry Perkins and to him from The Fox. |
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AVL might be better off going and writing for New Idea magazine.
What did he expect from Barry, a man hug and a cup of peppermint tea? |
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A one on one shirt front would draw no comment, but deliberately belittling and blaming someone in the front of the whole team?
This is a man not taking responsibility for his role in the problems. Blaming AVL for all of it. |
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Mr Van Leeuwen is the nominated devil. I just hope the team with its happy happy joy joy smiles get their fundamental effluent sorted to the extent that Mr Hazelwood can take out both Sandown AND Bathurst….! |
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A non-compete legal threat disguised, perhaps?
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Major branding on the second car, while the championship winner has a sign writer and the team name on it -- weird?
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…while the branding was possibly nicked from the MSR #4 car of Mr Hill..
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