F1 Personel on the Move - Page 2

wnut · 5 Aug 2014, 06:09 (Ref:3441542)

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Originally Posted by Tucky

I'm beginning to think that Alonso may well end up at RB in the next two years. If Vettel can't bounce back I can't see RB keeping him just for their past relationship. Provided Marko doesn't insist on a Toro Rosso driver, Alonso would probably jump at the chance to swap teams to one that has a better chance to win a third (and deserved) championship. Sort of ruins his dreams of ending his career with Ferrari though...

RBR have royally messed up 2 of Vettel's qualifying sessions that I know of, so at 3 to 6 against Ricc, it becomes 3 to 4; really impressive by Danni Ricc, but not quite as good as it looks at first.

I really doubt RBR have any interest in Alonso, they have a lot of really talented juniors!

wolfhound · 18 Aug 2014, 21:07 (Ref:3445188)

Luca Marmorini is not happy about the way Ferrari is currently being run. No surprises there then.

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns28691.html

wnut · 18 Aug 2014, 23:11 (Ref:3445220)

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Originally Posted by wolfhound

Luca Marmorini is not happy about the way Ferrari is currently being run. No surprises there then.

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns28691.html

"Marmorini said he was dismissed by Mattiacci, even though "in three months we saw each other twice -- first for a greeting, the second when he gave me a letter that confirmed my departure from the company"."

WOW, just plain WOW!

This can only work well!

wolfhound · 1 Jun 2015, 11:54 (Ref:3543745)

I see Bob Bell has joined Manor. To me that says they are serious about the future as he has been with some of the top teams in F1 over the years.

JeremySmith · 1 Jun 2015, 22:10 (Ref:3543995)

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Originally Posted by wnut

They only get on at the moment because they have a common hate for the same person.

Oh dear...

JeremySmith · 1 Jun 2015, 22:12 (Ref:3543996)

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Originally Posted by wolfhound

I see Bob Bell has joined Manor. To me that says they are serious about the future as he has been with some of the top teams in F1 over the years.

That's great news isn't it...

JeremySmith · 4 Jun 2015, 16:26 (Ref:3544942)

Getting ready for a buy out by Renault maybe ?

wolfhound · 4 Jun 2015, 21:42 (Ref:3545005)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

Getting ready for a buy out by Renault maybe ?

It's not beyond the bounds of possibility.

wolfhound · 1 Jul 2015, 08:45 (Ref:3555139)

Mark Smith has joined Sauber as Technical Director, that seems like a good move for Sauber. Smith has formerly been with Jordan, Renault, Red Bull, Force India and Caterham.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/sa...nical-director

Casper · 2 Jul 2015, 03:23 (Ref:3555313)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

Getting ready for a buy out by Renault maybe ?

I don't see that happening for a few reasons

RB are on record saying they do not use customer engines and that is the position they would be in if Renault formed their own team

RB would have a contract with Renault to some date in the future

Renault would heave to justify their own equipment performance, would they be prepared to do that? They are French after all so anything is possible.

wolfhound · 25 Jan 2016, 13:46 (Ref:3607843)

Pat Fry has joined Manor as an engineering consultant. He will join ex McLaren man Dave Ryan there. He has been with Ferrari, McLaren and Benetton in the past in many senior positions so I am sure he will be of great benefit to Manor.

https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2016...y-joins-manor/

I wonder how long it will be before he moves on to greater and better things elsewhere?

BSchneiderFan · 25 Jan 2016, 14:05 (Ref:3607848)

Manor are looking like a very serious proposition this year. I think Sauber and Toro Rosso should be sweating a bit.

wolfhound · 25 Jan 2016, 14:14 (Ref:3607850)

The only thing they still seem to be missing a team principal and someone to replace Graham Louden.

Dave Ryan does not appear to be filling either of those roles from what was said when he originally joined Manor.

old man · 25 Jan 2016, 14:24 (Ref:3607852)

Certainly these announcements look very promising, drivers not confirmed yet but one wonders about the budget? It was said on here that they needed drivers to find $24 million so where is the rest coming from? How much FOM money is due this year after no points last year?

Am I wrong in thinking Dave Ryan was linked to Haas at one time?

crmalcolm · 25 Jan 2016, 14:53 (Ref:3607858)

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Originally Posted by old man

How much FOM money is due this year after no points last year?

Details of the 2014 breakdown can be found here.

Assuming the same allocation is used in 2015, then Manor will have received an estimated $60 million. (very rough calculation)

Richard C · 25 Jan 2016, 15:30 (Ref:3607876)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

Manor are looking like a very serious proposition this year. I think Sauber and Toro Rosso should be sweating a bit.

In some ways they are looking up, but with so many recent comings and goings and missing puzzle pieces. How can we think they are a cohesive unit? I have doubts about any forward movement in 2016.

Richard

djinvicta · 25 Jan 2016, 16:23 (Ref:3607887)

09963442 : MANOR RACING LIMITED, formed on Jan 21st 2016. One Director, a solicitor with 31 other Companies.
Manor Grand Prix Racing Ltd is in a voluntary agreement with creditors. Director Stephen Fitzpatrick.

Wonder where the 60,000 went to?

BSchneiderFan · 25 Jan 2016, 16:27 (Ref:3607888)

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Originally Posted by Richard Casto

I have doubts about any forward movement in 2016.

I think a Mercedes power unit and suspension and gearbox from Williams is a pretty good foundation. They'd have to design a barge of a car not to be able to fight at least to get out of Q1. Of course, the pedallers are still to be named. I still hope Wehrlein gets a seat but it's looking increasingly unlikely. Stevens and Haryanto would be my guess.

**bella** · 26 Jan 2016, 14:18 (Ref:3608124)

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Originally Posted by djinvicta

09963442 : MANOR RACING LIMITED, formed on Jan 21st 2016. One Director, a solicitor with 31 other Companies.
Manor Grand Prix Racing Ltd is in a voluntary agreement with creditors. Director Stephen Fitzpatrick.

Wonder where the 60,000 went to?

you're not finding that on companies house.

try this:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...filing-history

djinvicta · 26 Jan 2016, 16:34 (Ref:3608175)

Yes Bella, then click on the Insolvency link. CVA was agreed in February.. for Manor Grand Prix Racing Ltd.

My quote was from Riskdisk, (Experian)

Then please note: Above is a brand new Company just formed Manor Racing Ltd...

My point was..where has the $60,000,000 gone to?

djinvicta · 26 Jan 2016, 16:44 (Ref:3608179)

Date of Accounts SORRY, SPACING IS NOT GOOD. ACCOUNTS OVER 3 YEARS For Manor Grand Prix Racing Ltd.
31 Dec 2012 31 Dec 2013 31 Dec 2014
Accounting Standard
GAAP GAAP GAAP
Currency
GBP GBP GBP
Number of Weeks
52 52 52

Profit & Loss Account
Turnover 28,291,000 60,757,000 26,153,000
Pre-Tax Profit -57,666,000 -12,125,000 -57,415,000

Balance Sheet
Total Fixed/Non Current Assets 4,261,000 2,542,000 740,000
Total Current Assets 20,760,000 34,391,000 6,898,000
Total Current Liabilities 158,968,000 43,111,000 66,760,000
Total Long Term Liabilities 0 47,000 0
Total Provisions 0 0 0 0
Total Net Worth -134,600,000 -6,443,000 -122,000,000
Working Capital -138,208,000 -8,720,000 -59,862,000

**bella** · 26 Jan 2016, 16:55 (Ref:3608182)

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Originally Posted by djinvicta

Yes Bella, then click on the Insolvency link. CVA was agreed in February..

My quote was from Riskdisk, (Experian)

my point was more that you've got the wrong company name and number there tbh. that's why you've got weird information. the one you linked to was only incorporated 5 days ago...

the companies house link contains the full information for anyone curious about some proper data. particularly which companies voted against the voluntary agreement!

Mike Harte · 26 Jan 2016, 17:20 (Ref:3608195)

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Originally Posted by djinvicta

My point was..where has the $60,000,000 gone to?

The $60 million you refer to, I assume, is the payment from FOM? If so, surely that would be accounted for in the 2015 figures, and would therefore not show in the 2014 accounts.

And Bella, it is curious that although McLaren officially voted against the CVA, the notes state that they did so in error as they actually meant to vote in favour.

djinvicta · 26 Jan 2016, 18:58 (Ref:3608227)

I was referring to crmalcolm's post number 40 here, where he says that Manor will have received $60,000,000.
I was asking where it had gone or is going?
To Manor Grand Prix Ltd CVA? (I think not!)
Or to the new Manor Racing Ltd?

**bella** · 27 Jan 2016, 10:33 (Ref:3608392)

without knowing exactly what they're going to be using the manor grand prix ltd company for... the way caterham kept a lot of the mess away from the f1 entry was by subcontracting out the f1 team. that always seemed quite smart to me.

what's also interesting to note is that at the same time, a company called manor endurance racing ltd was set up by the same solicitor.

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