Dakar and Rally-Raid discussion...

[BertMk2]

He made a mess of the Pug alright! He seems to have accepted that he can't possibly win now - although Loeb being Loeb you can bet he'll be on a charge. Podium still in reach?

[NaBUru38]

Results after stage9 Belén-Belén:

Cars

1. Carlos Sainz (ESP, Peugeot) 28:39'24
2. Stéphane Peterhansel (FRA, Peugeot) 07'
3. Nasser Al-Attiyah (QAT, Mini) + 14'
4. Mikko Hirvonen (FIN, Mini) + 34'
5. Giniel de Villiers (RSA, Toyota) + 53'
6. Yazeed Al Rahji (SAU, Toyota) + 1:01'
7. Leeroy Poulter (RSA, Toyota) + 1:03'
8. Erik Van Loon (NED, Mini) + 1:28'
9. Nani Roma (ESP, Mini) + 1:42'
10. Cyril Déspres (FRA, Peugeot) + 1:51'
11. Vladimir Vasilyev (RUS, Toyota) + 1:52'
13. Harry Hunt (GBR, Mini) + 2:01'
13. Sébastien Loeb (FRA, Peugeot) + 2:16'
14. Orlando Terranova (ARG, Mini) + 2:18'
15. Martin Prokop (CZE, Toyota) +3:10'
16. Emiliano Spataro (ARG, Renault) + 3:22

Bikes

1. Toby Price (AUS, KTM) 29:53:15
2. Stefan Svitko (SVK, KTM) + 24'
3. Pablo Quintanilla (CHI, Husqvarna) + 32'
4. Kevin Benavides (ARG, Honda) + 33'
5. Antoine Meo (FRA, KTM) + 40'
6. Helder Rodriguez (POR, Yamaha) + 46'
7. Gerard Farrés Guell (ESP, KTM) + 52'
8. Ricky Brabec (USA, Honda) + 1:02'

Quads

1. Marcos Patronelli (ARG, Yamaha) 36:27:33
2. Alejandro Patronelli (ARG, Yamaha) + 01'
3. Alexis Hernández (PER, Yamaha) + 40'
4. Jerem?*as González Ferioli (ARG, Yamaha) + 50'
5. Sergei Karyakin (RUS, Yamaha) + 1:05'
6. Pablo Copetti (ARG, Yamaha) + 1:24'
7. Nelson Sanabria (PAR, Yamaha) + 1:40'
8. Brian Baragwanath (RSA, Yamaha) + 1:41'

Trucks

1. Gerard De Rooy (NED, Iveco) 28:30:46
2. Nikolaev (RUS, Kamaaz) + 27'
3. Federico Villagra (ARG, Iveco) + 41'
4. Pieter Versluis (NED, Man) + 44'
5. Ton van Genugten (NED, Man) + 45'
5. Airat Marddeev (RUS, Kamaz) + 51'

Paulo Goncalves (bikes leader) had a crash.

[FIRE]

I am surprised by Kamaz. So far they are not really up against Iveco and MAN.

Originally Posted by justracing

Could be a different story when they tackle the dunes!

First victory for Mini!

[NaBUru38]

By the way, Stéphane Peterhansl has been accused of refuelling in an unauthorised point. Peugeot claims that the refuelling points they used are authorised. Stay tuned...

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

By the way, Stéphane Peterhansl has been accused of refuelling in an unauthorised point. Peugeot claims that the refuelling points they used are authorised. Stay tuned...

I read on twitter there will be no punishment

(because he's French, drives French car and ASO is French )

[NaBUru38]

I have found no more information, for example any announcement by ASO.

Results after stage 10 Belén - La Rioja:

Cars

1. Stéphane Peterhansel (FRA, Peugeot) 32:44'
2. Nasser Al-Attiyah (QAT, Mini) + 1:00'
3. Giniel de Villiers (RSA, Toyota) + 1:12'
4. Mikko Hirvonen (FIN, Mini) + 1:23'
5. Leeroy Poulter (RSA, Toyota) + 1:33'
6. Cyril Déspres (FRA, Peugeot) + 1:50'
7. Nani Roma (ESP, Mini) + 1:50'
8. Vladimir Vasilyev (RUS, Toyota) + 1:58'
9. Sébastien Loeb (FRA, Peugeot) + 2:27'
10. Harry Hunt (GBR, Mini) + 2:28'
11. Emiliano Spataro (ARG, Renault) + 3:49'
12. Yazeed Al Rahji (SAU, Toyota) + 4:32'
13. Miroslav Zapletal (CZE, Hummer) + 4:49'
14. Erik Van Loon (NED, Mini) + 4:52'
15. Orlando Terranova (ARG, Mini) + 4:54'
16. Martin Prokop (CZE, Toyota) + 4:56'

Bikes

1. Toby Price (AUS, KTM) 34:49:04
2. Stefan Svitko (SVK, KTM) + 23'
3. Pablo Quintanilla (CHI, Husqvarna) + 42'
4. Antoine Meo (FRA, KTM) + 44'
5. Kevin Benavides (ARG, Honda) + 45'
6. Helder Rodriguez (POR, Yamaha) + 56'
7. Ricky Brabec (USA, Honda) + 1:12'
8. paulo Goncalvez (POR, Honda) + 1:14'
9. Gerard Farrés Guell (ESP, KTM) + 1:15'
10. Adrien Van Beveren (NED, Yamaha) + 1:21'

Quads

1. Marcos Patronelli (ARG, Yamaha) 43:14'
2. Alejandro Patronelli (ARG, Yamaha) + 01'
3. Jerem?*as González Ferioli (ARG, Yamaha) + 1:34'
4. Sergei Karyakin (RUS, Yamaha) + 1:34'
5. Brian Baragwanath (RSA, Yamaha) + 1:41'
6. Pablo Copetti (ARG, Yamaha) + 2:05'
7. Nelson Sanabria (PAR, Yamaha) + 2:23'
8. Walter Nosiglia (BOL, Honda) + 3:05'

Trucks

1. Gerard De Rooy (NED, Iveco) 28:30:46
5. Airat Marddeev (RUS, Kamaz) + 1:15'
3. Federico Villagra (ARG, Iveco) + 1:32'
4. Hans Stacey (NED, Man) + 1:48'
5. Ton van Genugten (NED, Man) + 2:16'

[BertMk2]

What happened to Sainz?

I saw Hirvonen had lost a lot of time trying to find one of the checkpoints, that's dropped him back a bit.

I can't remember where I saw it but I read something that said there would be no action taken against Peugeot.

[chillibowl]

side question here, but what are peoples thoughts about the daily video highlight packages this year? im just a casual watcher which probably would explain it, but i am finding them kind of hard to follow and really light on details.

[BertMk2]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

side question here, but what are peoples thoughts about the daily video highlight packages this year? im just a casual watcher which probably would explain it, but i am finding them kind of hard to follow and really light on details.

I'd pretty much agree with that - but it's hard to cram it all in to a highlights package, especially if you're trying to cover all of the classes. As ever some of the still photography from the event has been very impressive.

In answer to my own question from earlier - Sainz is out after a gearbox problem, they recovered the car to service but the damage is too much for the car to be repaired and continue (must be more to it than a simple gearbox failure for that to be the case - maybe it took something else out when it failed?).

[NaBUru38]

Sainz had a puncture and then the transmission broke.

In Latin America, the Dakar Rally airs several times per day on Fox Sports. Sometimes it's the third feed, which I have but other providers don't.

[NaBUru38]

Final results (tech inspection pending):

Results after stage 10 Belén - La Rioja:

Cars

1. Stéphane Peterhansel (FRA, Peugeot) 45:22'
2. Nasser Al-Attiyah (QAT, Mini) + 0:34'
3. Giniel de Villiers (RSA, Toyota) + 1:02'
4. Mikko Hirvonen (FIN, Mini) + 1:05'
5. Leeroy Poulter (RSA, Toyota) + 1:30'
6. Nani Roma (ESP, Mini) + 1:41'
7. Cyril Déspres (FRA, Peugeot) + 1:49'
8. Vladimir Vasilyev (RUS, Toyota) + 2:01'
9. Sébastien Loeb (FRA, Peugeot) + 2:22'
10. Harry Hunt (GBR, Mini) + 3:11'
11. Yazeed Al Rahji (SAU, Toyota) + 4:37'
12. Orlando Terranova (ARG, Mini) + 5:08'
13. Erik Van Loon (NED, Mini) + 5:22'
14. Martin Prokop (CZE, Toyota) + 5:33'
15. Jakub Przygonski (CZE, Toyota) + 5:40'
16. Miroslav Zapletal (CZE, Hummer) + 5:40'
...
18. Emiliano Spataro (ARG, Renault) + 7:33'
20. Romain Dumas (FRA, Peugeot) + 8:12'
25. Robby Gordon (USA, Gordini) + 10:43'
36. Tim Coronel (NED, Suzuki) + 20:04'

Bikes

1. Toby Price (AUS, KTM) 48:09'
2. Stefan Svitko (SVK, KTM) + 0:39'
3. Pablo Quintanilla (CHI, Husqvarna) + 0:48'
4. Kevin Benavides (ARG, Honda) + 0:54'
5. Helder Rodriguez (POR, Yamaha) + 0:55'
6. Adrien Van Beveren (NED, Yamaha) + 1:46'
7. Antoine Meo (FRA, KTM) + 1:56'
8. Gerard Farrés Guell (ESP, KTM) + 2:01'
9. Ricky Brabec (USA, Honda) + 2:11'
10. Armand Monleon (ESP, KTM) + 3:27'
...
15. Laia Sanz (ESP, KTM) + 4:33'

Quads

1. Marcos Patronelli (ARG, Yamaha) 58:47'
2. Alejandro Patronelli (ARG, Yamaha) + 0:05'
3. Brian Baragwanath (RSA, Yamaha) + 1:41'
4. Sergei Karyakin (RUS, Yamaha) + 1:44'
5. Jerem?*as González Ferioli (ARG, Yamaha) + 2:02'
6. Nelson Sanabria (PAR, Yamaha) + 4:17'
7. Walter Nosiglia (BOL, Honda) + 4:26'
8. Alexis Hernández (PER, Yamaha) + 6:33'

Trucks

1. Gerard de Rooy (NED, Iveco) 44:42:03
2. Airat Marddeev (RUS, Kamaz) + 1:10'
3. Federico Villagra (ARG, Iveco) + 1:40'
4. Hans Stacey (NED, Man) + 2:23'
5. Ton van Genugten (NED, Man) + 2:30'
6. Pascal de Baasr (NED, Renault) + 3:04'

[canamman]

Hope Loeb comes back next year.
He is a great addition to the competition.
Proud of first time biker Brabec getting a top 10.
Hope Laia gets a top 10 next year.
That was a good Dakar.

[Adam43]

Twelve. 12. A dozen. One could be luck, but...

[BertMk2]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Twelve. 12. A dozen. One could be luck, but...

Yeah - he's not bad is he

[canamman]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Twelve. 12. A dozen. One could be luck, but...

And half of those were on a bike. Time for an Iveco!

[Adam43]

Yeah! Top idea

[justracing]

The real heros for me are the Malle Moto bikers, totally unsupported they have an aluminum case with a few spares plus a trunk which gets transported to the next bivouac and after a day's slogging through the stage they return, hopefully, to erect their own tent, carry out any necessary repairs and grab a few hours sleep. The dedication and fortitude of these true adventurers never fails to amaze.

[FIRE]

I 100% agree but as a fan I prefer watching trucks and cars.

[canamman]

Time to start looking forward to the next edition:
Jan. 2nd - 14th.
http://www.dakar.com/index_DAKus.html

2016 Winners:
Bikes - Toby Price - KTM
Quads - Marcos Patronelli - Yamaha
Cars - Stephane Peterhansel - Puegeot
Trucks - Gerard DeRooy - Iveco

No Gordon for 2017. Possibly back for 2018.

NBCSN for coverage.
http://motorsports.nbcsports.com/tag/2017-dakar-rally/

[NaBUru38]

Bikes

"Toby Price on his KTM is the favourite, but newcomers from last year have continued to impress during the season, whether it is Kevin Benavides (Honda) or Adrien van Beveren (Yamaha)."

Cars

"The Peugeot Dream Team has remained intact, but to go up against Peterhansel, Loeb, Sainz and Despres, Toyota was particularly busy on the transfer market. In addition to Giniel de Villiers, the Hilux Pickups will be driven by Nasser Al Attiyah and Nani Roma.

The Minis from Team X-Raid will try to add a fifth trophy to their collection case with Mikko Hirvonen, Orly Terranova and Yazeed Al Rahji. Bryce Menzies will look to make a sensational breakthrough into the world of rally-raid."

Trucks

"Gerard De Rooy will once again have his Argentinean team-mate Fernando Villagra, who joined him on the podium last January. Kamaz will try to return to their winning ways with Ayrat Mardeev and Eduard Nikolaev. Ales Loprais could create a surprise with a Czech team and Tatra that allowed his uncle Karel to win six times."

[NaBUru38]

Cars

Peugeot

300. Stéphane Peterhansel (FRA)
304. Carlos Sainz (ESP)
307. Cyril Despres (FRA)
309. Sébastien Loeb (FRA)
319. Khalid Al Qassimi (UAE)

Toyota

301. Nasser Al-Attiyah (QAT)
302. Giniel De Villiers (RSA)
305. Nani Roma (ESP)

Mini

303. Mikko Hirvonen (FIN)
306. Yazeed Al Rajhi (RSA)
308. Orlando Terranova (ARG)
312. Bryce Menzies (USA)

- o -

Bikes

KTM

1. Toby Price (AUS)
2. Stefan Svitko (SVK)
16. Sam Sunderland (GBR)
19. Laia Sanz (ESP)

Honda

4. Kevin Benavides (ARG)
11. Joan Barreda Bort (ESP)
15. Michaël Metge (FRA)
17. Paulo Gonçalves (POR)

Others

3. Pablo Quintanilla (CHI / Husqvarna)
5. Helder Rodrigues (POR / Yamaha)
6. Adrien Van Beveren (FRA / Yamaha)

- o -

Trucks

500. Gerard De Rooy (NED/Iveco)
502. Federico Villagra (ARG/Iveco)

501. Airat Mardeev (RUS/Kamaz)
505. Eduard Nikolaev (RUS/Kamaz)

504. Hans Stacey (NED/Man)
509. Pieter Versluis (NED/Man)

503. Ales Loprais (CZE/Tatra)

[canamman]

So far as I look over everything ,
these are my goals so far:

Bikes - Brabec- USA - podium
Laia Sanz -ESP - top 10

Cars - Loeb - FRA - podium

[NaBUru38]

Kevin Benavides broke his hand while training and is out of the Dakar.

Renault will have two factory Dusters for Emiliano Spataro and Facundo Ardusso.

[canamman]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

Kevin Benavides broke his hand while training and is out of the Dakar.

Dang. He had a good finish last year. He also won stage 3.

Do you plan on going to any of the stages or festivities?

[NaBUru38]

I live in Uruguay. I could cross to Buenos Aires, but I have other priorities.