[WEC] Aston Martin Hypercar Discussion

[deggis]

Originally Posted by GingerPixel

Forgive my potential ignorance, but doesn't this go against the point of the whole thing being road car based?

Indeed. I would assume the homologation process is not too different from the way it is done in GTE.

[chernaudi]

I'm wondering what will/won't be allowed in the Hypercar LMP1 regs. The front wing and huge tunnels on the Valkyrie can't be legal per the ACO, right?

Also, Graham from DSC in the non-ACO specific Aston Martin Racing thread said that the Valhalla was supposed to form the original basis for AMR's LMP1 Hypercar. I wonder what changed that and what form a Valhalla influenced LMP1 might have taken, be it GTE+ or a DPI-like LMP1 like what Toyota's might very well be.

[TF110]

Originally Posted by chernaudi

I'm wondering what will/won't be allowed in the Hypercar LMP1 regs. The front wing and huge tunnels on the Valkyrie can't be legal per the ACO, right?

Also, Graham from DSC in the non-ACO specific Aston Martin Racing thread said that the Valhalla was supposed to form the original basis for AMR's LMP1 Hypercar. I wonder what changed that and what form a Valhalla influenced LMP1 might have taken, be it GTE+ or a DPI-like LMP1 like what Toyota's might very well be.

I'm not 100% but the article I linked to from Japanese Autosport seemingly says that the under body is more open than the current regs.

[Simmi]

Anyone know whether these cars will need to have BHH/BHF. Or could we finally be rid of that sh*te due to the slower speeds, roadcar cues etc.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Anyone know whether these cars will need to have BHH/BHF. Or could we finally be rid of that sh*te due to the slower speeds, roadcar cues etc.

I'm guessing fin will still be there but maybe some leeway on the fender holes?

[Mike E]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Anyone know whether these cars will need to have BHH/BHF. Or could we finally be rid of that sh*te due to the slower speeds, roadcar cues etc.

Was wondering the same thing. I would think it would be harder to enforce because the car dimensions are not defined in the same way. The current regs require the fin to have a surface area of 3 sq metres. You're not going to get a 3 sq m fin on a Valkyrie without it looking like a yacht. Maybe require a fin at roof height back to the rear wing? Hopefully they get scrapped altogether.

Also, the cars will be significantly heavier so maybe that will help to keep them on the ground, GTE-style.

[hondafan37]

I guess the fin should not be very different than the AMR Pro.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Mike E

Was wondering the same thing. I would think it would be harder to enforce because the car dimensions are not defined in the same way. The current regs require the fin to have a surface area of 3 sq metres. You're not going to get a 3 sq m fin on a Valkyrie without it looking like a yacht. Maybe require a fin at roof height back to the rear wing? Hopefully they get scrapped altogether.

Also, the cars will be significantly heavier so maybe that will help to keep them on the ground, GTE-style.

Good point on the weight, GTE cars didn't have the same flying problem as LMP1, but then again they weren't going as fast.

[carbsmith]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Anyone know whether these cars will need to have BHH/BHF. Or could we finally be rid of that sh*te due to the slower speeds, roadcar cues etc.

Go ask TMG and Multimatic's aero departments. Because wind tunnel testing is part of the homologation process now you just have to have the car wind tunnel or CFD certified to meet the aerodynamic stability targets rather than mandating specific features to make sure any car can. How achievable that will be without the existing devices isn't something any of us are qualified to answer.

As viewed from the side, the bodywork must cover the complete wheels above the axle centrelines and it must be possible to see the circumference of the complete wheels.
Wheel arches may be a non-continuous surface (holes, grooves, louvers, openings or cut-outs) if required to accomplish the aerodynamic safety stability criteria as defined by Article 3.11, provided that the visibility requirements above are respected.

[TF110]

Originally Posted by hondafan37

I guess the fin should not be very different than the AMR Pro.

They should just run that thing and call it a day. Maybe make the wing a little higher or whatever but that thing looks like it's 99% ready to go.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by TF110

They should just run that thing and call it a day. Maybe make the wing a little higher or whatever but that thing looks like it's 99% ready to go.

Throw some racing Michelins on it and let her rip on the track. I'd pay to see that!

[Simmi]

Aston's Chris Goodwin again reiterating on the N24 coverage that we can expect privateer Astons on the grid - seemingly from the outset.

[Adam43]

Or is that the factory effort will seem like a privateer effort?

Sorry, that was uncalled for. to Aston.

[Juntos]

Last time that Aston has been in top Le Mans category we all know how the story finished. Their priority can't be selling cars to privateers, but to build a double-stint car in first place.

[TF110]

Originally Posted by Juntos

Last time that Aston has been in top Le Mans category we all know how the story finished. Their priority can't be selling cars to privateers, but to build a double-stint car in first place.

Fortunately for them the car is already 'built'. They need to test it and all that first but being based on the road Valkyrie is already a better deal than the last attempt.

[hondafan37]

Aston Valkyrie production hypercar appears on track for first time at Silverstone.

https://sportscar365.com/autos/aston...t-silverstone/

[Adam43]

Nice

Shame it’s not in gulf colours.

[Aysedasi]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Nice

Shame it’s not in gulf colours.

Not a shame at all IMO. I think it looks very smart indeed.

[Adam43]

It does yes.

[gert]

I 'm probably a minority, but I find it really ugly. Sorry ...

[TF110]

I like it. Not sure if it's going to look like this in hypercar trim, I think it'll be better.

[S griffin]

I do like it and the concept car livery looks alright. Can't wait to see it in racing colours

[canaglia]

Originally Posted by S griffin

I do like it and the concept car livery looks alright. Can't wait to see it in racing colours

that livery is because of an AMR / redbull promotional event during f1 silverstone week-end.

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by canaglia

that livery is because of an AMR / redbull promotional event during f1 silverstone week-end.

And Red Bull did MOST of the work on the car. It's a Red Bull pet project to make such a car and keep Newey engaged and entertained.

[Dyson Mazda]

So Aston Martin lost almost $100m in 2Q19 and their share price is down 75% since their IPO in April. I’m not liking the chances of an expanded AMR racing program and their ability to move forward as an independent company.