Points scoring systems - Page 2

avsfan733 · 16 Mar 2003, 17:59 (Ref:538217)

maybe the goal should be to increase the gaps between the points. This would make each overtaking manuever a bigger deal and a more important one, however at the same time I still think reliability should be rewarded along with fastest lap and pole. And maybe a point for the person who gains the most points, which might make things interesting with the new qualifying rules

R · 16 Mar 2003, 18:41 (Ref:538238)

Quote:

Originally posted by krt917
Even Schuey has said that he likes to get the title out of the way so that he can RACE and not worry about points.

I know he said something to that effect, and I think it sounds extremely arrogant. Maybe he didn't intend it that way.

I said earlier that I would like to see the race winner receive 12 points instead of 10. That's the only alteration I would make. Otherwise, the new points scoring system is fine.

krt917 · 16 Mar 2003, 18:57 (Ref:538244)

I can see how you could see the view as arrogant, but I was using it to demonstrate what I believe to be an important point, voiced by some drivers, past and present (Schuey's was the one I could remember). 12 points for a win would certainly be better

Schummy · 17 Mar 2003, 00:19 (Ref:538479)

Maybe 1st-2nd gap in points is a bit too small (I'd prefer 11 for 1st!). Anyway, closer scoring systems produces closer championships (in terms of deciding WC). A quick simulation using earlier seasons can show it.

Historically F1 system has had a spreader point system than others categories (including bikes), and historically a lot of other championships have seen fierce figths for position. I think the key factor here is F1's difficult overtakes, above the factor introduced by this scoring system.

I'd find interesting the fastest-lap bonus, but in the present system with 10-8 points for 1st-2nd it would be too close in case the 2nd have the F.L. This kind of bonus has historical roots in F1, so it would not be against the "spirit-of-F1".

It's interesting that in the earliest WCs, for many years the scoring systems was 8-6-4-3-2-1 (pretty similar to nowadays), and 1 point bonus for fastest-lap.

krt917 · 17 Mar 2003, 22:51 (Ref:539584)

True, though in those days there were fewer races so a win might, mathematically, be worth more (?). Didn't stop Hawthorn beating Moss to the title in '58 though....

**Bononi** · 18 Mar 2003, 12:40 (Ref:540037)

That's right. Fewer races in that points system did the difference. With 16 races to go, the competition increases and the title can be decided right in the end...

krt917 · 18 Mar 2003, 13:22 (Ref:540087)

Which IS what you want, but surely we want it to happen through close competition and NOT close points systems which - in relative terms - penalise the most succesful teams/drivers (ie. they have to wait longer and could, in theory, lose).

**Bononi** · 18 Mar 2003, 13:47 (Ref:540115)

Remember that is just part of a package of new rules. If you evaluate it isolated is a situation, but in the mix with the others rules implemented they can get a different outcome.

ashley 19 · 18 Mar 2003, 20:35 (Ref:540479)

old Points system
1st-10pts
2nd-6pts
3rd-4pts
4th-3pts
5th-2pts
6th-1pt
New Points system
1st-10pts
2nd-8pts
3rd-6pts
4th-5pts
5th-4pts
6th-3pts
7th-2pts
8th-1pt

**Bononi** · 19 Mar 2003, 12:38 (Ref:541100)

Thanx Ashley...

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