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Old 1 Nov 2004, 22:04 (Ref:1142398)   #26
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luke should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridluke should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Well Montoya scored 7 poles and no wins. Ralf the better driver.
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Old 1 Nov 2004, 22:10 (Ref:1142403)   #27
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BootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Montoya outscored Ralf in 2002 (only his second season), despite Ralf lucking into a win and Montoya being unlucky not to win on occasion. Montoya's the far better driver in my book, and Im sure 2005 will back that up.

Maybe we should focus purely on Ralf anfd Jarno though - Ralf and JPM produce very opposing reactions, and comparisons of those two usually turn ugly.
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Old 2 Nov 2004, 00:32 (Ref:1142515)   #28
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Kirk has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
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I've bene impressed by Ralf in the last three races, he really seems to have got his enthusiasm and determination back.
Temperamentally they seem to have much in common. Ralf has been terribly inconsistent since teaming up with JPM and Trulli has displayed some of the same after his win early in 2004. I don't expect anything spectacular from these two, in fact we could get a lot of whining from both if the car doesn't improve. Having said that however, a new team may be the best cure for what ails them. Who'll come out on top. Tough call, I'll say Trulli.
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Old 2 Nov 2004, 13:53 (Ref:1142853)   #29
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I don't expect anything spectacular from these two, in fact we could get a lot of whining from both if the car doesn't improve.
Agree completely Kirk ... that's it in a nutshell.
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Old 2 Nov 2004, 14:09 (Ref:1142863)   #30
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Just a cuppla notes:
1) The question is relevant only if Toyota is able to provide a bit competitive car; otherwise, predicting which one will be 10th or 12th is of no use.
2) If condition 1 is respected, well, we gonna see one of the most interesting pairs of 2005, perhaps the second, after Kimi-JPM.
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Old 2 Nov 2004, 14:10 (Ref:1142865)   #31
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.. ah I was forgetting my vote: Trulli.
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Old 2 Nov 2004, 14:13 (Ref:1142866)   #32
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Trulli will win on track.

Ralf will win the moaning contest.
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Old 2 Nov 2004, 14:17 (Ref:1142867)   #33
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Ralf + Gascyone + Toyota will be quite the threat in 05
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The car does seem to be the missing piece of the equation.
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Old 2 Nov 2004, 15:57 (Ref:1142927)   #35
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I think we may have the fastest driver combo in F1 here.....

Trulli will win the qualifying contest, but Ralf will get the upper hand over the year.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a BAR like leap forward from Toyota
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Old 2 Nov 2004, 16:03 (Ref:1142934)   #36
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Honestly I would
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Old 2 Nov 2004, 18:06 (Ref:1143040)   #37
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How i will enjoy bringing this thread back when RS thrashes Trulli.... and By that time its obvious that i will be moderator so i'll simply delete the thread if the opposite occurs..
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The fastest combo in F1? Faster than Mcihael and Rubens? Or Kimi and Montoya? Or Button and Sato? I'm not sure about that.
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Old 2 Nov 2004, 18:56 (Ref:1143115)   #40
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Kirk has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
Perhaps not boots, but they both seem to need a good shot of confidence. I can see these guys being formidable if they are provided with a decently quick and reliable Toyota. Something well overdue given their budget and personnel.
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Old 2 Nov 2004, 20:00 (Ref:1143189)   #41
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How i will enjoy bringing this thread back when RS thrashes Trulli.... and By that time its obvious that i will be moderator so i'll simply delete the thread if the opposite occurs..
...and then you'll wake up.
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Old 3 Nov 2004, 01:09 (Ref:1143478)   #42
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I think Trulli will be quicker more often than not, but it's a toss up who'll score the most points.
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Psychology will have a role in determining the winner IMO: the less weak will prevail.
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I think we may have the fastest driver combo in F1 here.....
No way, each driver has too many "off days" to make the fastest combo here.
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Yes, and apart from that, Ferrari and Macs have unquestionably better pairs.
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