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I think that all the new LMP2 coupes, which the HPD ARX-04b is one, are to the new specs, like the Lotus T128s, the Dome S103, and the Ligier JS P2. It shouldn't be a problem for them to keep running for a number of seasons.
I'm glad to see such interest in the LMP2s, and I think this tips the scales toward IMSA having a NEED to MAKE the LMP2s more able to RACE with the DPs. JJ09, giving GTD the ABS and TC could put them too close to the GTLM pace. If this GTE Evo thing happens, that might not be an issue anymore. Keeping largely the same schedule, these are some adjustments I would like to see. 1. Daytona 24 2. Sebring 12 3. Long Beach (P/GTLM) 4. Laguna Seca (P/GTLM/GTD) (PC/Lites) 5. Lime Rock (GTD) 6. Detroit (P/PC) 7. Watkins Glen 6 8. Mosport (P/GTLM/GTD) 9. Indy (all classes, assuming they keep to the layout they used in 2012-13) 10. Road America 11. Austin 12. VIRginia 13. Road Atlanta 1000 I wish Detroit wasn't at the height of Le Mans prep, so that the GTLMs could take part. |
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I'm hoping for Risi to return with a strong lineup and Aston to compete in GTLM with a factory car. Really there are no excuses not for them to be there except for funding-but I can't help them with that.
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We just need some LMP2 teams or chassis manufacturers working on stuffing the current Chevy/Ford motors into the back of a few of these new coupes.
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They aren't going to do that as long as there are a bunch of other better, tested options. Now if Ford or Chevy gives them money to do it, sure, but Ford can't be bothered to do anything but NASCAR and Chevy runs the GTE Vettes.
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Ford has no reason to choose any other team than five-time champs Ganassi, and no reason not to choose the dominant Riley DP platform.
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Looks like we can expect to see at least one Ligier in TUSC next season with a chance of a team debuting this season.
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/d...-and-reliable/ |
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Fogel, the difference now, and it's a major complication, is that ISC/NASCAR now have Daytona, Watkins Glen, Road Atlanta, and the lease agreement for holding the Sebring 12 Hours. You're kind of hosed as an attempted start-up North American Sportscar series if you can't get any of those events on your series' calendar.
Just a note on my earlier post, as looking again at the current schedule, I should have listed Austin after VIR. |
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They're supposed to be back on track for Road America. I think if they can get things going well to finish out this year they'll be back for '15.
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Whole lot of things wrong wrong with TUSC, but a whole lot of things wrong without TUSC.
Who is really ready to put up the cash to start6 a new series idf even NASCAR can't make sports cars work? What TV network will be willing to broadcast races if NASCAR can't even get its buddies at Fox to show all the races live, let alone on a channel anyone actually gets? How many sponsors are going to sighn up knowing that even with NASCAR backign, the TUSC sponsors ended up getting crappy RoI, and now the series is streamed on the Internet ... maybe? Why would NASCAR sell any tracks, or the lease to Sebring? They sure aren't selling Daytona--that's obvious. Road Atlanta can be a Cup race, or a housing project as the economy comes back. Watkins Glen can generate rental fees, as can Sebring--so Maybe a new sports car series could rent those tracks. I kind of think NASCAR intends to eventually control all motor racing entertainment in North America--it's their metier, why not have a monopoly? Another possibility--if TUSC fails NASCAR might reintroduce "DTM America," with relativley cheap, spec chassis, sealed motors, and "manufacture styling cues" bodywork (where have we heard that before?)---even more a NASCAR sports car series than Rolex or TUSC. If NASCAR makes it easy for major manufacturers to get on board and guarantees parity so everyone has a chance at winning ... "Sports car racing" might come to mean 2600- rather than 3600-lb tube-framed spec chassis and motors with different grille decals saying Toyota, Hyundai, Kia, Chevy, Ford, BMW, Audi ... Don't think there could be anything worse than TUSC? I'm not so sure---and not very eager to find out. |
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A lot of the changes at Sears Point in 1998-02 were made with an eye toward the AMA Superbikes also.
Thankfully, I don't think they'd have reason to change the layout at Road Atlanta, and there are good reasons not to mess with it. The "stock cars" need that back stretch intact, while any short course could only truncate it, and it would eliminate some viewing points, as well as infield parking/camping. Removing the Turn 4-7 section of Sears Point lets NASCAR fill up the track more, whereas a short course at Road Atlanta would have the opposite effect. |
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People are simply losing interest in the modern style of car racing. In my opinion, the solution to this is to appeal to the public's fascination with Technology and electronic gizmos. Race cars need to be awesome marvels of modern engineering. The current trend of cars that are more of an appliance, simply a means of going racing, just isn't capturing the public's imagination anymore. Of all the types of American Motorsport, sports car racing is the best suited to survive into the future.....IF it's taken in the right direction. |
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So, will GM go to the expense of designing a new set of bodywork, decorated to resemble the C7? Perhaps dropping an engine into a P2 chassis would be a better choice. (Wishful thinking, I know. ) |
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NASCAR ratings and attendance: In a free fall and getting worse every year Everything else in American Motorsport: Borderline non-existent and irrelevant getting out-drawn by South Park re-runs on Comedy Central at midnight and infomercials. Although Laguna numbers on FS1 were especially atrocious and since that's the only data we've got for TUSC we can assume those are typical, and if so even Indycar is in a position to be laughing down at TUSC. I wonder just how terribly the series does when it's on FS2 |
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Gainsco has said they want to return in 2015 and they have ties with Chevy. With DPs being much more expensive now, maybe a P2 might look more attractive when Mr. Stallings needs to choose what kind of car to buy. Whatever sort of chassis the future brings, I'd be willing to bet there will be a Chevy and/or Ford powering a few of them. Would hope that the P2 chassis showing that they can work with the American engines might also help the case in pushing for P2. Quote:
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