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Old 4 Jun 2023, 12:23 (Ref:4159675)   #26
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For reference the fastest times last year were:

ClassCarTime
HypercarToyota #7 3:29.896
LMP2United #22 3:32.099
GTE-AmKessel Ferrari #57 3:54.827
All were set in the second session.

Edit: Added a comparison to now (*end of first session, the red became the chequereed).

ClassCarTime  CarTime
HypercarToyota #7 3:29.896 Ferrari #503:30.686
LMP2United #22 3:32.099 #47 COOL3:36.409
GTE-AmKessel Ferrari #57 3:54.827 JMW Ferrari #66 3:56.623
NASACAR   Hendrick #243:56.880
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The hypers are close from the start. LMP2 taking their time?

And great to see the decent pace of the NASCAR. Currently 41st and would be 4th in GTE Class!
Impressed with the pace from G56, right out of the gate they are on par with the GT cars.

Initially I would have thought Toyota would be faster than last year with their updated car, but then I remembered all that extra weight.
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I’m impressed too.

Running with the pace comparison for the NASCAR here is the sector and top speed comparison of #24 to the best GTE-Am.

#123ideal lapActual bestTop speed
2436.83190.125109.166 3:56.1223:56.880298.8*
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6636.84590.923108.5123:56.2803:56.623298.0
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*GTE-AM fastest top speed was 302.2 by Ferrari #54

Wonderful. I am even more worried it will go out early now!

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Old 4 Jun 2023, 12:34 (Ref:4159678)   #28
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Initially I would have thought Toyota would be faster than last year with their updated car, but then I remembered all that extra weight.
In first test session last year they ran 1070kg and 3:31.626. This year 1080kg and 3:31.856. According to the Kobayashi fact 10kg is worth about 0.33s.

It’s easy too early to read anything into this. I feel like an ignorant buffoon just posting the comparison even with the disclaimer.
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Interesting top speed comparison, #51 Ferrari 341 kph, the Pugs 333 and 331. First LMP2, #47 Cool Racing is 323, first LMGTE #54 Ferrari is 302 kph (Camaro 298 kph). Is the speed trap before the first chicane?
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No surprise, once you bring BoP back into play everyone settles in just above 3:30.
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Sector 3 first Fuoco (Ferrari #50) 1'36"91, second Menezes (Peugeot #94) 1'36"95. Surprising to say the least…
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Old 4 Jun 2023, 13:02 (Ref:4159688)   #35
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I’m not that surprised. To a certain extent the lack of the rear wing is a red herring with the top speed/downforce thing. It’s got downforce, just not from that. All the cars are in a similar window, by definition.
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A lot less laps in the first session this year. Presumably because of the disruptions.
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Impressed with the pace from G56, right out of the gate they are on par with the GT cars.

Initially I would have thought Toyota would be faster than last year with their updated car, but then I remembered all that extra weight.
Much, much hotter this year than last year as well. The test day morning last year was fairly overcast and pretty cool although it warmed up a little in the afternoon.
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Much, much hotter this year than last year as well. The test day morning last year was fairly overcast and pretty cool although it warmed up a little in the afternoon.
Good point.

Last year: Air Temp: 23.50C, Track temp: 18.31C and it was declared WET
This year: 45.9C, 27.00C and DRY.

I do not know if that is an average, or at the beginning, end, or whenever. It wasn’t WET overall, but must of had some of the non sun at some point.

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I see they're pinging track limits good and early......
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In the last sector, the kerbs are either too high or flat and rather smooth. They (Pugs) need to keep permanently the ride height at a certain level.
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Test Day was wet last year? News to me. The track may have been a little damp at the start but I don't recall any non-sun.....
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In the last sector, the kerbs are either too high or flat and rather smooth. They (Pugs) need to keep permanently the ride height at a certain level.
Interesting. Is this an observation, or something from the team?
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Test Day was wet last year? News to me. The track may have been a little damp at the start but I don't recall any non-sun.....
I assume that is what it is.

A comparison of the Hyper times. Ranked by fastest Top 5 laps:

Average Lap time
RankCarFastestTop 5Top 10Top 20
151 Ferrari3:31.1633:32.3943:33.6973:39.429
294 Peugeot3:31.1893:32.4573:33.9473:37.172
350 Ferrari3:30.6863:32.5723:34.2084:23.675
47 Toyota3:31.8563:32.6023:33.4723:41.082
58 Toyota3:32.8893:33.3703:34.3433:45.345
693 Peugeot3:32.7643:33.4783:35.5595:13.161
76 Porsche3:30.7873:33.6263:39.5026:50.000
83 Cadillac3:32.0733:34.1523:35.0867:10.802
92 Cadillac3:32.3363:34.4653:36.0705:50.360
10708 Glickenhaus3:33.7713:34.4653:35.9744:24.352
11311 Cadillac3:34.3993:35.1563:36.144NA
1238 Porsche3:31.4773:35.2183:39.6235:21.649
135 Porsche3:34.3143:35.9353:44.5755:48.828
144 Vanwall3:35.4583:36.2413:37.6824:27.530
15709 Glickenhaus3:34.2743:36.5103:37.9893:51.259
1675 Porsche3:38.9223:45.4296:12.709NA

Due to the limited running I wouldn't read much into the Top 20, and maybe not the Top 10. It really is too early to start looking at this. Looking at the running they really were just shaking down. I am setting stuff up for the race week so this stuff is just falling out.

75 Porsche just settling in...
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Looks like live timing is ranked still based on number of laps completed
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Not forgetting that some tenths on this 13,6 km means a really small difference.
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Re live timing, each penalty cancels the time it was given not obviously the best lap. Sorry, I feel not clear here…
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Re live timing, each penalty cancels the time it was given not obviously the best lap. Sorry, I feel not clear here…
FWIW, cancelled laps are removed from my analysis.
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I understand!! After 17 minutes of practice, almost fifty lap times deleted. Just a start!
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Including a 3:32 from Vanwall.
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